genius idea...lets destroy the best health care system in the world(albeit expensive) and give everyone shitty health care.
lets screw the drug companys on patents so they can no longer create new drugs.oh yea...and while we are at it..the economy is weak,the government is over spending money like drunk sailors in a whore house.we have massive unemployment in the USA..so whats the answer? spend MORE money we dont have PUT more pressure on the employment market PUT more pressure on small business and see if we cant destroy what is left of the economy.
lets screw the drug companys on patents so they can no longer create new drugs.oh yea...and while we are at it..the economy is weak,the government is over spending money like drunk sailors in a whore house.we have massive unemployment in the USA..so whats the answer? spend MORE money we dont have PUT more pressure on the employment market PUT more pressure on small business and see if we cant destroy what is left of the economy.
FlyLikeAnEagle
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You conveniently left out a few facts in your rant.
1. It was not Canadas health minister, it was Newfoundland Premier Danny Williams.
2. The guy owns a condo in Florida and lives there part time.
3. The procedure he had done was a new technique developed by CANADIAN DOCTORS at The University of Ottawa Heart Institute IN CANADA.
Apparently Ottawa and Toronto have somehow managed to emerge as leading centres for both the theory and practice of heart surgeryin particular, it seems, the operation Williams neededdespite the horrors of socialized medicine.
you could always move to canada?
for me...no thanks ill take our health care system about the way it is.
if you can show me one thing the government has ever operated that it has not failed out..MAYBE but i doubt it...might consider them touching health care..
just one example of what the government touch's that does not turn to shit please?
i like to say the government has the reverse midas touch .
for me...no thanks ill take our health care system about the way it is.
if you can show me one thing the government has ever operated that it has not failed out..MAYBE but i doubt it...might consider them touching health care..
just one example of what the government touch's that does not turn to shit please?
i like to say the government has the reverse midas touch .
dukeofbaja
New Member
Are you saying we have the best health care in the world? If so, hahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahhahahhahahahhahahhahahhahhahahhahhahahhah
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Illegal Smile
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I don't think there is any question that the US has more top tier hospitals and top tier doctors and top tier technology than any other country. How many American millionaires do we see choosing to go somewhere else for advanced treatment?
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PadawanBater
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Unfortunately for you - that wasn't the question duke asked...
lol
Does America have the best health care system or not?
Cant'cha answer a simple question?
doc111
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From somebody who's been around the world and worked in the medical field for over 20 years..................I'd say yes, we indeed have the best healthcare in the world. It's hardly a contest. Are we slipping? We are slipping on everything but our healthcare still beats everybody elses. If Obamacare passes it will be the nail in the coffin, so to speak (IMHO). It's ironic that so many people who don't like the government's intrusion in their lives want something that would obviously do so in a major way pass.
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PadawanBater
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I'm not even following the health care programs very closely man, I couldn't say I'm for or against any of them. I just decided a while ago that the assholes in power are going to do what they're going to do regardless of what I have to say about it, so I'm just going to do what I was always planning on doing regardless. I can find ways to go undetected..From somebody who's been around the world and worked in the medical field for over 20 years..................I'd say yes, we indeed have the best healthcare in the world. It's hardly a contest. Are we slipping? We are slipping on everything but our healthcare still beats everybody elses. If Obamacare passes it will be the nail in the coffin, so to speak (IMHO). It's ironic that so many people who don't like the government's intrusion in their lives want something that would obviously do so in a major way pass.
One thing I do know though is that almost everyone agrees with health care reform and the way we do business in the medical industry is unacceptable. (not to mention the HUGE AMOUNT of hypocrisy coming from the pharmaceutical industry and DC's "official policy" - Don't do drugs! Drugs are bad! - while pumping out the worlds biggest industry of FDA sponsored drugs...)
doc111
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I agree we have a problem with the cost of healthcare in this country. And I agree something has to be done. I just don't want to see the govt. take over healthcare. FDA is a great example of what will happen once govt. takes over healthcare.
CrackerJax
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You left out (on purpose, or not informed? which is it?).... he went to Florida on the advice of his OWN Canadian physician. His own doctor told him to go to the USA.
hey dont confuse the issue with the facts. progressives cant stand that shit.
im still waiting for one of these government loving tree hugging progressives say what program or business the government has put its hand into it has not fucked up>? still waiting.
not one of you can tell me one thing they havnt fucked up but would have me go along with them running the health care of the country? you progressives arnt just smoking pot..your smoking crack.
im still waiting for one of these government loving tree hugging progressives say what program or business the government has put its hand into it has not fucked up>? still waiting.
not one of you can tell me one thing they havnt fucked up but would have me go along with them running the health care of the country? you progressives arnt just smoking pot..your smoking crack.
CrackerJax
New Member
Something I have always asked..... name the program please? Name a govt. program that isn't gushing in red ink.
There is a disconnect going on with some of you folks. Let me clear a few things up for you all.
First, there are two objectives that DO NOT intertwine.
1.) Bring down the cost of health care insurance.
2.) Add 30 million ppl to the insurance pool.
These are two completely SEPARATE objectives, and guess what.... one cannot be done if the other is also done. It's called the REAL WORLD (google it).
One more point of clarity. The Government can ONLY accomplish #2, not #1.
So, if you are FOR Govt. health care, stop running around talking about COST. You are 100% arse backwards on that one.
Sorry.....
There is a disconnect going on with some of you folks. Let me clear a few things up for you all.
First, there are two objectives that DO NOT intertwine.
1.) Bring down the cost of health care insurance.
2.) Add 30 million ppl to the insurance pool.
These are two completely SEPARATE objectives, and guess what.... one cannot be done if the other is also done. It's called the REAL WORLD (google it).
One more point of clarity. The Government can ONLY accomplish #2, not #1.
So, if you are FOR Govt. health care, stop running around talking about COST. You are 100% arse backwards on that one.
Sorry.....
Government does not control the economy, its the other way around, and the puppet-masters at the big banking firms have had this planned for a long time IMO. [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Those that own the banks now hope that they can swoop in and buy up the nation's infrastructure for pennies on the dollar. This is how they operate. They print money based on nothing but debt at negligible cost to themselves, then charge interest on that debt, interest that is never created by the way, and then when the debt can't be repaid they end up acquiring all the real wealth that's been created. It's a brilliant scheme in its simplicity. They end up with all the real wealth and they risk nothing of any real value. The politicians will all be duped into complicity with this plan except for the very few who truly understand what is happening.
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PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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Your Right on,,,IMO, Banks and Laweyers should be on trial,,,Instead of Obama. That's why the change took place.
PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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I agree with a "fair Tax" Ideology. I do not agree with abolishing the "government Unions" They were created for a Reson,,Unknown in Today's society IMO,,Maybe some reform. I have Silver,Gold and Guns.
" Death Tax Reapal"...No way.
"Capital Gains", Tax repealed No way.
You Must be Living The High Life in another way than "I" To beleve that is the cure
