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Obama's Socialist Agenda Exposed

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NoDrama

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olylifter420 said:
Isnt ur shit built with federal funds? Dont you take pride in stealing from taxpayers to pay for your new zr1corvette?

Obviously your factory or warehouse was built by federal monies...

Hypocrite..
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No, my things are all built with my OWN MONEY, I never borrowed a penny and the Government certainly never funded it.
I have no factory nor Do I have a warehouse, you must be lacking knowledge.


FYI Theft is illegal, since I legally do these things it cannot be theft, or I would be in prison.

I AM a Hypocrite though, just like you are, and everyone else is.
 
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NoDrama

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ink the world said:
I have no clue wtf MSM is.
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MSM=Main Stream Media.

Its funny you never heard of that, it gets used frequently around here, and for 3 fucking years you didn't know what we were talking about. Welcome to the forum. Its used very frequently in the news, newspapers, TV, Blogs, and forums. I find it hilarious that you have been reading all this stuff and never knew what they were talking about.
 
Mr Neutron

Mr Neutron

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ink the world said:
You're are an intelligent man, I know that from your postings here.
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... and you are an EXCELLENT judge of character

ink the world said:
You are purposely misrepresenting what he said and you know it.
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No I'm not.

ink the world said:
He never said anything about people "giving back", more bullshit.
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Come now, in the FIRST sentence,
  • "There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back.​


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ink the world said:
It's sad when your point is baseless and completely built on bullshit and easily verifiable misrepresentations. Anyone with a set of ears and a working brain can listen to his speech to get the truth instead of regurgitated bullshit Fox talking points
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A swing and a miss... and he goes down on strikes...
 
canndo

canndo

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Mr Neutron said:
This is propaganda at it's most insidious. It is an attempt to change the public's attitude toward the wealthy. Where does this idea of "give something back", come from? Successful people are supposed to feel guilty because they prosper? I think not. If they want to donate to charities, that's fine but for the government or anybody to tell them that they have to give something back just because they are successful is immoral... but then what else would you expect from a bunch of jealous little whiners.
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I agree, it is "insidious" to demand that someone voluntarily give something back to the community that was, by virtue of others "giving" a fertile enough place for that person to get rich in the first place. That person should not be expected to offer anything. However, they should be liable to be forced into contributing to the environment in which they did so well - i.e. taxes, taxes, taxes
 
canndo

canndo

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bedspirit said:
This is the justification for a progressive tax rate and it's not without warrant. A country with no taxes, no infrastructure, and no education is not the ideal place to process. Just ask all the food producers who moved to China in the early 2000's only to come scrambling back the the US a few years later.

But none of this matters. No worries. No one is going to have to give anything back. Our tax code is filled with opportunities to avoid paying taxes. Raise the tax rate on the wealthy and you can silence the poor angry mob below, while the wealthy just have to get more creative with subsidiaries and tax havens. Nothing really changes, just our perception.
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I have heard it said that a the harbinger of a failing country is when that country is no longer able to extract taxes from its wealthiest citizens.
 
bedspirit

bedspirit

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ChesusRice said:
une 17, 2009: “Ordered the federal government to extend key benefits to same-s3x partners of federal employees.”

June 29, 2009: “Hosted the first-ever White House lg bt Pride reception.”

August 12, 2009: “Awarded the highest civilian honor, the Medal of Freedom, to Billie Jean King and Harvey Milk.”

Yada yada yada...
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Let me add one for you:

May 5th 2012: The president stressed that this is a personal position, and that he still supports the concept of states deciding the issue on their own.

Look, I know how different the rhetoric is. I'm just saying that the end result is they both want the states to decide the issue. There will be no federal law legalizing gay marriage in all 50 states.
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
You got those MSM marching orders down don't you. Why is it you lefties always have to translate what Obama says? Obviously your missing a set of ears or a working brain, Obama's speech was nothing but a half digested regurgitation of the New Party creed.
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Beenthere, we will continualy "translate" what Obama says when the right distorts, takes out of context or misrepresents what he says - as they so often do. Listen to the entire speech, it is obvious what he is saying to anyone without a rightist agenda. As I have so often stated, the right is incapable of adjusting it's own subjective reality with objective reality, this is furhter proof of that sad item.
 
bedspirit

bedspirit

Active Member
beenthere said:
Are you saying that the FDA is just another useless reactionary bureaucracy?
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Oh no, they have a use. These days their use is giving their stamp of approval to whatever genetically modified, cancer causing, product that Monsanto craps out this week.
 
canndo

canndo

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ink the world said:
I have no clue wtf MSM is.

I dont have marching orders from anyone. I do have a rational brain that can hear someone talking and comprehend what they're saying. You obviously either don't have that ability or are so full of rage with Obama that anything he says or does is wrong.

Being able to comprehend something doesn't make me a leftist or whatever bullshit tag you wanna place in me. In case you havent figured it out you sir are an extremist. The vast majority of Americans are left of you. That doesn't make us Leftists, it makes us reasonable people.
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It may be defined further down - MSM = Main Stream Media, it is a slight slur upon news gathering outfits and distinguishes the majority of all news outlets with those that are a part of the rightist echo chamber, Fox being it's principle opinion maker and talking point distributor.

I disagree, most Americans are not to the left of Beenthere, there is a significant portion of our citizenry who think, act and see just as Beenthere does, he is very far from alone.
 
canndo

canndo

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ink the world said:
I'm lucky, I earn a living as a caregiver.
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Some of us don't smoke anything as numbing as what the best growers here tend to produce. A Por Larannaga Cuban reserve Half corona with a cup of home blended and roasted moca java is just right on the back porch before global warming takes us to 108 for the remainder of the day.
 
ink the world

ink the world

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NoDrama said:
MSM=Main Stream Media.

Its funny you never heard of that, it gets used frequently around here, and for 3 fucking years you didn't know what we were talking about. Welcome to the forum. Its used very frequently in the news, newspapers, TV, Blogs, and forums. I find it hilarious that you have been reading all this stuff and never knew what they were talking about.
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I don't spend all my time here on the political forums, I do browse but not as much as before.

As far as not knowing what the hell MSM is, so what? I usually sift right past posts that use "lamestream media" and all the other hyperbolic terms that extremists use to define media other than Fox.

Sorry to disappoint you, I care more about the plant and my garden than arguing here in politics. I will try to live up to your standards and spend more time here.
 
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beenthere

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canndo said:
I disagree, most Americans are not to the left of Beenthere, there is a significant portion of our citizenry who think, act and see just as Beenthere does, he is very far from alone.
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You hit the ball out of the park my friend, that's why conservatives outnumber liberals 2 to 1 in America.
 
canndo

canndo

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beenthere said:
You hit the ball out of the park my friend, that's why conservatives outnumber liberals 2 to 1 in America.
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That conservatives outnumber liberals in any ratio you wish does not mean that conservatives are right or correct. It simply means that they are not quite aware of what is actually going on in this country, or more properly, they are unable to comprehend objective reality.
 
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