Obama's second term

kelly4 said:

How much government money and manhours have been spent already, not including cost of panels, and they aren't even on yet. They are already the most expensive panels that have never been used.

, with everything else going on, who gives a fuck about solar panels?

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Carter installed solar panels than good ol Ron then took down. I was using the Carter Obama reference, you see? I had no idea they were reinstalling them! Sweet!

UB doesn't want his thread turned into a lecture with complicated math and boring facts in order for me to prove your BS.

Well, he'll not have a Senate with 60 votes, so virtually nothing will get done. Maybe the Dems will strip away that stupid filibuster rule in his second term like the Republicans threatened to do when Dems filibustered Bush's precious little war in Iraq. Maybe I'll be suprised and the House will flip. lol.

MellowFarmer said:

Carter installed solar panels than good ol Ron then took down. I was using the Carter Obama reference, you see? I had no idea they were reinstalling them! Sweet!

UB doesn't want his thread turned into a lecture with complicated math and boring facts in order for me to prove your BS.

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Yes, I see.

I see you answer to buck, that's your first problem.
Buck doesn't care what this turns into as long as you have plenty of charts and shiney graphs.

MellowFarmer said:

I try really hard to be polite, if it doesn't always show. Please check your facts. That is the most outlandish BS I've heard since I flipped past Fixed News a few weeks back! Stop spreading ignorant BS, I have a degree in Env Sci from HSU and I don't want to teach a class nor does anyone else here. thanks

Hypothetically speaking, if THAT were true, how does the cost of tearing them down, replacing the roof and heating it with oil begin to recoup???? Reagan was a big dumb kid who outlawed the one drug that could of help him... karma is great!

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I didn't say tearing them down WAS good, did I? Once they're up, they should stay up.
I said they shouldn't have been put up in the first place!

And I was critiqueing Ronnie's bonehead move that should drop jaws far and wide, especially with fiscal conservatives.

But Fact: Reinstalling solar panels on the White House roof, including labor and construction would save money over using black gold. Prove me wrong, I will be sitting strapped in believe me.

Fact: As research and development of solar technology increases, cost significantly decreases which even a 4th grade math student in Alabama could understand by briefly cost checking a solar panel 5 years ago to the same now.

Fact: Carter brilliantly started this ressearch and development 43 decades ago, Ronnie brought it to a screeching halt.


Fact: Both Bush's brought us to war over oil yet both ended their terms in a recession with soaring oil prices. Based on recent cost trends in green energy, had Carter's plan been intelligently continued, we may actually be close to leading that technology libertarian world life I hear so many fond things of. They would of needed another greedy reason to bring us to war, saving trillions. Peace

it's just like 2008 all over again, a bunch of chicken littles telling me the sky will fall.

the chicken littles were wrong then and they're wrong now.

MellowFarmer said:

And I was critiqueing Ronnie's bonehead move that should drop jaws far and wide, especially with fiscal conservatives.

But Fact: Reinstalling solar panels on the White House roof, including labor and construction would save money over using black gold. Prove me wrong, I will be sitting strapped in believe me.

Fact: As research and development of solar technology increases, cost significantly decreases which even a 4th grade math student in Alabama could understand by briefly cost checking a solar panel 5 years ago to the same now.

Fact: Carter brilliantly started this ressearch and development 43 decades ago, Ronnie brought it to a screeching halt.


Fact: Both Bush's brought us to war over oil yet both ended their terms in a recession with soaring oil prices. Based on recent cost trends in green energy, had Carter's plan been intelligently continued, we may actually be close to leading that technology libertarian world life I hear so many fond things of. They would of needed another greedy reason to bring us to war, saving trillions. Peace

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LOL!! Yeah, 4 more years of carter and the world would be a perfect place. (harps playing lovingly in backround) UtopiAAAAAHHHHHH!

MellowFarmer said:

Fact: Carter brilliantly started this ressearch and development 43 decades ago, Ronnie brought it to a screeching halt

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Fact: Read your sentence again. Then check YOUR facts! LOL!

MellowFarmer said:

Carter installed solar panels than good ol Ron then took down.

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MellowFarmer said:

Reagan was a big dumb kid who outlawed the one drug that could of help him... karma is great!

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You not only made it into college but got a degree with english skills like that? No wonder liberty is waning.

kelly4 said:

LOL!! Yeah, 4 more years of carter and the world would be a perfect place. (harps playing lovingly in backround) UtopiAAAAAHHHHHH!

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Certainly not, Carter is the best since JFK true, but he IS a jesus freak.

And UB follows me I hear to save time on wikipedia


I am the newbie here, have I fallen prey to a troll? you are not giving me any facts, I'm done- Peace

UncleBuck said:

it's just like 2008 all over again, a bunch of chicken littles telling me the sky will fall.

the chicken littles were wrong then and they're wrong now.

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Tell that to the people of Libya, before The Pimp took away their free health care, free housing and free college education. Even we don't have that for all. We're not going to let any pathetic African nation best us!

MellowFarmer said:

Certainly not, Carter is the best since JFK true, but he IS a jesus freak.

And UB follows me I hear to save time on wikipedia


I am the newbie here, have I fallen prey to a troll? you are not giving me any facts, I'm done- Peace

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I'm sorry, I'm just funnin' with ya.

Mr Neutron said:

You not only made it into college but got a degree with english skills like that? No wonder liberty is waning.

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Aw... yes, sadly I was taught spelling with phonix; not make the rules up as you go. I then spent the early years in a Technical college who's English reqement class resembled my 7th grade English class and darn that was the 90s... I could explain to you however how a Jet engine works? Sadly, like all skills if not used the intricacies of our language fall between the cracks while acquiring other life skills. I would however for sure go back and do a JC, followed by tons of Humanities if only I could relive my early 20s.. uh, wait, not I'd be backpacking Europe but what can you do?

Canna Sylvan said:

Tell that to the people of Libya, before The Pimp took away their free health care, free housing and free college education. Even we don't have that for all. We're not going to let any pathetic African nation best us!

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Ha Ha thANK GOSH sigh, so am Initiated now?

kelly4 said:

Fact: Read your sentence again. Then check YOUR facts! LOL!

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Ha, imagine how cheap it's be now if 43 decades had passed

Canna Sylvan said:

Tell that to the people of Libya, before The Pimp took away their free health care, free housing and free college education. Even we don't have that for all. We're not going to let any pathetic African nation best us!

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You forgot free torture, free rape, free murder, free assassination and free incarceration, oh and let's not forget free maiming and dismemberment (purification laws of 1994).

MellowFarmer said:

I try really hard to be polite, if it doesn't always show. Please check your facts. That is the most outlandish BS I've heard since I flipped past Fixed News a few weeks back! Stop spreading ignorant BS, I have a degree in Env Sci from HSU and I don't want to teach a class nor does anyone else here. thanks

Hypothetically speaking, if THAT were true, how does the cost of tearing them down, replacing the roof and heating it with oil begin to recoup???? Reagan was a big dumb kid who outlawed the one drug that could of help him... karma is great!

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Back then, I doubt the solar panels would have recouped their cost. These days the technology has improved and energy prices are higher.

Carne Seca said:

You forgot free torture, free rape, free murder, free assassination and free incarceration, oh and let's not forget free maiming and dismemberment (purification laws of 1994).

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What business is that of ours? Even so, that's mostly a bunch of propaganda.

Californians are all a bunch of surfer dudes. Everyone from San Francisco is a gay surfer dude. If we based all Oregonians off Bucky, we'd assume they're all pompous Green Peace charter members.

If we based Mormons off you, then they'd be cocky and gay.

Would it be cool if China took us over because it doesn't like barbaric US world police policy? SYG laws which kill poor innocent black toddlers going to the store to get drinks and candy. Stupid bible thumpers who blow up abortion clinics. Treehugging idiots who burn down trees thousands of years old cooking. Women who let online professors rape 18 month babies, but beastiality is too much.

Then lets look at our government who did medical experiments on it's own people claiming they were vaccines. Killed a pregnant woman with a robot bringing a phone because the government wanted the husband to be an informant against a KKK faction. Putting an automatic machine gun in a Cuban boy's face for political gain.

So should China take away our whole way of life like we do to countries like Libya? The US is way more brutal than Libya could ever be. So how can we dare have the audacity to judge any other country.

Canna Sylvan said:

What business is that of ours? Even so, that's mostly a bunch of propaganda.

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1. The population of Libya (you know, the people he was slaughtering) was begging for help
2. Human Rights should always be "our business"
3. The Purity Laws enacted in 1994 are a matter of policy not propaganda. It was THE LAW
4. His regime took the effort to record the torture, murders, terrorist training camps (the people they send around the world to kill us), and rapes
5. If we based Libertarians off of you, everyone would be wearing white robes with pointed hats and repealing civil rights or enacting racist immigration laws.... wait...

So I'm a racist because I say people who lose at life then blame others for being racist against them? Rather than admit they fucked up. No one else is to blame. That's the only racism that exists. I'm not living the life, but it's all me. It's not some illegal taking food stamps, free medical and pays no taxes. Whereas I get fucked by the government. But the only reason I'm fucked is because of my choices and actions. If I really wanted, I could get ahead. But that's hard, and I choose to live an easier life. I choose to have a life with my kids rather than a life with my work.

You live with what you're dealt. It's a shitty life controlling others morality.