Obama is the anti-Christ!!!

ChinaCat · Feb 21, 2009

Zig Zag Zane said:
IM IGNORANT CUZ I USE THE WORD RETARDED??...WOW like a mentally challenged person really crossed my mind when i use that word, go fuck yourself, and you can say im ignorant for saying that too. and dont say im being tough either, you are being the forum police when you say dont use the word retarded.

You do not know the definition of ignorant.....

The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

I was educating you about how you sounded when you used the word retarded...... my friend Karen called me out about it too. I was uninformed on how it made her feel when I used the word... even though I used it with no ill intent. I guess I just don't want you to run into the same situation and hurt someones feelings..... even if unintentional....

My comments were not an attack.... I wanted you to know how you sounded. I am glad you had no thoughts about the mentally challenged.....that shows you were just ignorant (see def. above) to how you were coming across.

And as for you using the word"retarded".... hey... go for it. Make an ass out of yourself and show everyone how immature you really are.

And by the way.... PC is politically correct. I, in no way have pushed my ideas on you.

Not once did I even say you were tough.... where did that come from too?

By the way.... thanks for the "f&%k you. Really shows you maturity again.... talk to me when you turn 18.

Sorry to everyone else...... I need to go now.... Vette needs his birthday massage.... and the day has been far to good to end it on this note.

Sweet dreams everyone!

Stoney...... glad you're back sweetie... I missed reading your posts!!! :hug:

AGSteve · Feb 21, 2009

ChinaCat said:
This is the first and probably the last thread I will post in about religion because I feel there are few things that unless proven..... and NO ONE has hard evidence on either side. Faith is what allows people who are spiritual stand their ground, faith is what allows people who are agnostic to have confusion, and faith (or lack of it) is what allows people who are atheists to stand their ground.

Standing your ground and having the intelligence to "agree to disagree" after a discussion is one thing...... but so many times on hot topics (politics, religion etc)..... it doesn't work that way.

We get into name calling.....what is that all about. My friend has a son who is downs syndrome and autistic..... do you thing he made a choice to be mentally "retarded?" You throwing that word around shows you are ignorant and callus... and since mentally challenged people do not happen to be as smart as many of you..... doesn't mean you should use that word as you are.

I am not the PC police.... by no means.... just try to be kind in your debate.

My point to posting is.... regardless of what you believe.... be adult and non-judging... state your piece and debate. Then agree to disagree.... part... and go on with your life.

I really can't stand people who get internet muscles..... this is a friendly site.... let's keep it that way.

Now, I do believe in God.... and I will not debate that fact. I have faith.... and I will listen but I do not feel the need to prove anything to anyone. I just try to live my life according to my beliefs..... and I really try to treat everyone the way I would like to be treated. Just let me say, may my God of my choice bless everyone here..... I send happy vibes and positive thoughts to everyone.....and if you are a non- believer..... please send happy thoughts and positive vibes my way. (no God included)

Gentle hugs to everyone..... calm these waters. Continue the debate... but please... no more name calling and personal attacks.

i understand you point completely, although i stand my all my comments and will no way retract them. read my previous post re using the word retarded. however i do believe ppl who have blind faith in the bible and other religious texts are retarding themselves.

i am happy to send good vibes to anyone, even those who i disagree with. i reserve the right to say what i think.

Stoney McFried · Feb 21, 2009

NIght China. :hug:

ChinaCat said:
You do not know the definition of ignorant.....

The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

I was educating you about how you sounded when you used the word retarded...... my friend Karen called me out about it too. I was uninformed on how it made her feel when I used the word... even though I used it with no ill intent. I guess I just don't want you to run into the same situation and hurt someones feelings..... even if unintentional....

My comments were not an attack.... I wanted you to know how you sounded. I am glad you had no thoughts about the mentally challenged.....that shows you were just ignorant (see def. above) to how you were coming across.

And as for you using the word"retarded".... hey... go for it. Make an ass out of yourself and show everyone how immature you really are.

And by the way.... PC is politically correct. I, in no way have pushed my ideas on you.

Not once did I even say you were tough.... where did that come from too?

By the way.... thanks for the "f&%k you. Really shows you maturity again.... talk to me when you turn 18.

Sorry to everyone else...... I need to go now.... Vette needs his birthday massage.... and the day has been far to good to end it on this note.

Sweet dreams everyone!

Stoney...... glad you're back sweetie... I missed reading your posts!!!

Zig Zag Zane · Feb 21, 2009

Tronica said:
i think humans are the arrogant ones for a reason.

we were created in the image of god himself. we were given characteristics not unlike his. we carry his similarities with us becasue we are his "children"

we were given free will and an evolving thought process. things that god himself has infinitately since he possesses everything in perfection.

and while i do not think that other creatures simply cease to exist, i do not think of them as equa to us either. we are special. and everything we know, was created for us.

i do not think we are his only children. the vastness of space is there for a reason, as far as im concerned, and a few others that i have discussed this with.

the big bang and the current contruction of our universe took a millenia to bring about. god is timeless. to him, that millenia had no toll. he created the earth, and the oceans, and the rest in what the bible calls "days". a day to god is not something we can understand, if god is not limited by time, he is not bound by "a day"

the big bang was gods creation, the big bang was god creating. the evolution of the planet was gods creating. god made the earth "and a day later" made the oceans. this is evolution, and im seriously simplfying the shit out of this becasue my thesis on this is actually 7 pages long. evolution and the big bang was god. science is god. does anyone follow?

im gonna drudge my report up from last years theology class. its on my laptop somewhere and i go into much better detail on all of this and tie in evolution and science directly to god in ways even a 6 year old can understand.

see but you have proven my point and didnt care to admit that it is arrogance, now thats your opinion but come on....so while humans are living an afterlife or flying up to heaven...a squirrel gets mauled by a car and its just roadkill?nothing else....iono it just seems very...wrong to put humans in this god like category when we are actually just highly evolved animals

ChinaCat · Feb 21, 2009

AGSteve said:
i understand you point completely, although i stand my all my comments and will no way retract them. read my previous post re using the word retarded. however i do believe ppl who have blind faith in the bible and other religious texts are retarding themselves.

i am happy to send good vibes to anyone, even those who i disagree with. i reserve the right to say what i think.

Yes...... and you should state your thoughts and beliefs. and stand by them. I agree 100000000%. I just think things could have been phrased in a kinder way. The way you phrased it in the above quote.... much nicer than saying..."you're retarded if you believe...." and even better..... they are becoming less intelligent and lost in their beliefs. Get what I'm saying.... and like I said... I never even thought of using the word retarded until I used it around my friend. I felt like a big turd for hurting her feelings. :cry:

Thanks for the vibes...... even when people agree to disagree... they can still appreciate where each other are coming from.

Hugs back to you!!!! :hug:

****Edit: Many lives could be save/saved if everyone agreed to disagree like adults. History has proven that may never happen. Sad thing about history.... if you don't learn from it, you are condemned to repeat it.

Tronica · Feb 21, 2009

Zig Zag Zane said:
see but you have proven my point and didnt care to admit that it is arrogance, now thats your opinion but come on....so while humans are living an afterlife or flying up to heaven...a squirrel gets mauled by a car and its just roadkill?nothing else....iono it just seems very...wrong to put humans in this god like category when we are actually just highly evolved animals

how come nothing else is highly evolved like us?

if evolution is your basis for this, and everything is equal, how come that squirrel is not equal to me and you?
its not. and you know its not. so how come evolution singled us out to rise so highly over the rest of the creatures that are equal to us?

AGSteve · Feb 21, 2009

Zig Zag Zane said:
see but you have proven my point and didnt care to admit that it is arrogance, now thats your opinion but come on....so while humans are living an afterlife or flying up to heaven...a squirrel gets mauled by a car and its just roadkill?nothing else....iono it just seems very...wrong to put humans in this god like category when we are actually just highly evolved animals

arrogance just sums up humans to tee. even those that don't believe in a dictated religious god.

'my arrogance is better than yours'

AGSteve · Feb 21, 2009

Tronica said:
how come nothing else is highly evolved like us?

if evolution is your basis for this, and everything is equal, how come that squirrel is not equal to me and you?
its not. and you know its not. so how come evolution singled us out to rise so highly over the rest of the creatures that are equal to us?

how do you know dolphins aren't as highly evolved as humans. just because they don't speak a language you understand or watch tv or use the internet or write books. arrogance at it's most malevolent.

Zig Zag Zane · Feb 21, 2009

ChinaCat said:
You do not know the definition of ignorant.....

The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.

I was educating you about how you sounded when you used the word retarded...... my friend Karen called me out about it too. I was uninformed on how it made her feel when I used the word... even though I used it with no ill intent. I guess I just don't want you to run into the same situation and hurt someones feelings..... even if unintentional....

My comments were not an attack.... I wanted you to know how you sounded. I am glad you had no thoughts about the mentally challenged.....that shows you were just ignorant (see def. above) to how you were coming across.

And as for you using the word"retarded".... hey... go for it. Make an ass out of yourself and show everyone how immature you really are.

And by the way.... PC is politically correct. I, in no way have pushed my ideas on you.

Not once did I even say you were tough.... where did that come from too?

By the way.... thanks for the "f&%k you. Really shows you maturity again.... talk to me when you turn 18.

Sorry to everyone else...... I need to go now.... Vette needs his birthday massage.... and the day has been far to good to end it on this note.

Sweet dreams everyone!

Stoney...... glad you're back sweetie... I missed reading your posts!!!

omg...call me wutever you like....haha this seriously made me laugh, you think its ignorance but really, the word retarded has just become a mainstream word for idiot,moron etc, and it has become so mainstream to the point that yes, of course i dont think of mentally challenged people when I used it, and I dont think i sounded ignorant because i wanted to say a common ass word, you just seem very sensitive to the word becuz you have a mentally handicapped friend, anyways, ive never been scolded or even corrected for using such a mild word....man... and yes i said go fuck yourself and it may have been a bit reactionary but you tried to make it seem as if i was bashing mentally challenged or something lol, since im the first person to use the word retarded on this thread, i assumed you were directing it at me...which...you were....anyways go check some other threads...someone might be using the word faggot or shit, gotta fight crime. oh and by the way, you were dead-on about my age, i am 18. ahh im so young and ignorant and dumb huh? wow.

Tronica · Feb 21, 2009

AGSteve said:
how do you know dolphins aren't as highly evolved as humans. just because they don't speak a language you understand or watch tv or use the internet or write books. arrogance at it's most malevolent.

k, greenpeace here.

im sorry if you think that the bug and rodent and are equal to us, but i don't.

nothing has ever showed me otherwise.

these creatures are not capable of creating art, of knowing love.

don't say they are because theyre not. their actions are not driven by emotions like human beings, they are purely driven by instinct. those that have been taught to display a sentiment otherwise are just that, taught and trained.

Stoney McFried · Feb 21, 2009

It didn't.Dolphins are highly intelligent.We are all a part of this earth.We die and rot, and return to it, just like any other creature of this earth.The arrogant assumption that humans are somehow better has caused the extinction of species and the destruction of habitats.We're not the best, just the most murderous.We are out of harmony with our natural environment,and we see the consequences...the earth is a complex organism, and it is trying to shake us like a bad case of fleas.Always there are new diseases to fight,new disasters to overcome, and the more we try to rise above what we really are, the weaker we become.We over medicate, over vaccinate, over sterilize, and we are not allowing our immune systems to learn to adapt to these new threats,and so we are reliant upon our technology to save us.Eventually,it will catch up to us,and the human species will be another thing for the fossil record.The planet goes through cycles of mass extinction,and we can expect no better than the others who came before us.

Tronica said:
how come nothing else is highly evolved like us?

if evolution is your basis for this, and everything is equal, how come that squirrel is not equal to me and you?
its not. and you know its not. so how come evolution singled us out to rise so highly over the rest of the creatures that are equal to us?

ChinaCat · Feb 21, 2009

Stoney McFried said:
It didn't.Dolphins are highly intelligent.We are all a part of this earth.We die and rot, and return to it, just like any other creature of this earth.The arrogant assumption that humans are somehow better has caused the extinction of species and the destruction of habitats.We're not the best, just the most murderous.We are out of harmony with our natural environment,and we see the consequences...the earth is a complex organism, and it is trying to shake us like a bad case of fleas.Always there are new diseases to fight,new disasters to overcome, and the more we try to rise above what we really are, the weaker we become.We over medicate, over vaccinate, over sterilize, and we are not allowing our immune systems to learn to adapt to these new threats,and so we are reliant upon our technology to save us.Eventually,it will catch up to us,and the human species will be another thing for the fossil record.The planet goes through cycles of mass extinction,and we can expect no better than the others who came before us.

I do agree with that..... 100%. We are the worst thing that has ever happened to this earth. We are not worthy and we take a place that is very balanced and screw everything up all for selfish reasons.

Zig Zag Zane · Feb 21, 2009

Tronica said:
how come nothing else is highly evolved like us?

if evolution is your basis for this, and everything is equal, how come that squirrel is not equal to me and you?
its not. and you know its not. so how come evolution singled us out to rise so highly over the rest of the creatures that are equal to us?

I fail to comprehend your meaning when you talk about evolution. Evolution is ALL ABOUT singling out the MOST FIT species, which is always a function of responses to the environment and ecosystem. There is nothing 'equal' about evolution.

For Man, it was the discovery of fire which allowed us to receive more nutrients from the food (cooked meat as opposed to raw), in turn allowing our brains to develop far in excess of other creatures over time. Humans are not special. If natural selection took a different course (natural disasters, famine, mass extinction events, meteors, etc.) humans would never have evolved out of the primate family and we could be living in a world populated by super-intelligent dolphins for all we know. The fact that human beings have survived this long is of course part random chance. Had the dinosaurs not gone extinct, eventually the most fit species would have evolved great intelligence like our own. Perhaps you should check your meaning when you talk about equality and evolution. The two don't mix.

Tronica · Feb 21, 2009

Stoney McFried said:
It didn't.Dolphins are highly intelligent.We are all a part of this earth.We die and rot, and return to it, just like any other creature of this earth.The arrogant assumption that humans are somehow better has caused the extinction of species and the destruction of habitats.We're not the best, just the most murderous.We are out of harmony with our natural environment,and we see the consequences...the earth is a complex organism, and it is trying to shake us like a bad case of fleas.Always there are new diseases to fight,new disasters to overcome, and the more we try to rise above what we really are, the weaker we become.We over medicate, over vaccinate, over sterilize, and we are not allowing our immune systems to learn to adapt to these new threats,and so we are reliant upon our technology to save us.Eventually,it will catch up to us,and the human species will be another thing for the fossil record.The planet goes through cycles of mass extinction,and we can expect no better than the others who came before us.

Dolphins are not highly intelligent. They are just highly intelligent compared to other animals. Not humans.

And you say that we are doomed to become fossils. Maybe thro our own mistakes, surely, we are killing our planet. And it's easy to say that that will catch up with us and be the end of us. We are not however, de-evolving. You look at a cure for disease as an anti evolutionry bi-product. That is evolution at it's finest. The power to survive, to adapt and overcome, that is evolution of human beings.

We are the only specices on the on the planet to be exempt from mainstream evolution. We don't have to wait for evolution to change us, becasue we can do it ourselves. Our brains have evolved to the point that we can create our own micro evolution. This is a trend that coudl continue forever. Further telescoping evolution to the point that it can be seen with the naked eye. Can any other creature in all of Earth's existence claim the same?

natmoon · Feb 21, 2009

Your not highly intelligent at all,your just a monkey with a toy.
You have no idea how to even fix your own microwave oven.
You wave you remote control around thinking your so clever yet you invent nothing and do nothing except sleep,shag shit and die.
Your the same as any other worker ant :joint:

AGSteve · Feb 21, 2009

Zig Zag Zane said:
omg...call me wutever you like....haha this seriously made me laugh, you think its ignorance but really, the word retarded has just become a mainstream word for idiot,moron etc, and it has become so mainstream to the point that yes, of course i dont think of mentally challenged people when I used it, and I dont think i sounded ignorant because i wanted to say a common ass word, you just seem very sensitive to the word becuz you have a mentally handicapped friend, anyways, ive never been scolded or even corrected for using such a mild word....man... and yes i said go fuck yourself and it may have been a bit reactionary but you tried to make it seem as if i was bashing mentally challenged or something lol, since im the first person to use the word retarded on this thread, i assumed you were directing it at me...which...you were....anyways go check some other threads...someone might be using the word faggot or shit, gotta fight crime. oh and by the way, you were dead-on about my age, i am 18. ahh im so young and ignorant and dumb huh? wow.

pffff 18 that is young

. not to young to understand what a waste of space current mainstream religions are tho. and definitely not to young to know what they believe. i'm 38 this year but i knew what i believed regarding religion when i was first taught RE in primary school. my beliefs haven't changed. ppl go on about faith... i have faith... i have faith that my beliefs are true.

Tronica · Feb 21, 2009

natmoon said:
Your not highly intelligent at all,your just a monkey with a toy.
You have no idea how to even fix your own microwave oven.
You wave you remote control around thinking your so clever yet you invent nothing and do nothing except sleep,shag shit and die.
Your the same as any other worker ant

i was hoping you had left to create that religion of yours.

its really not a bad idea.

you could be the next Ron L.

AGSteve · Feb 21, 2009

natmoon said:
Your not highly intelligent at all,your just a monkey with a toy.
You have no idea how to even fix your own microwave oven.
You wave you remote control around thinking your so clever yet you invent nothing and do nothing except sleep,shag shit and die.
Your the same as any other worker ant

probably doesn't do much shaggin but i reckon compensates with plenty of shitting.

Brazko · Feb 21, 2009

Stoney McFried said:
It didn't.Dolphins are highly intelligent.We are all a part of this earth.We die and rot, and return to it, just like any other creature of this earth.The arrogant assumption that humans are somehow better has caused the extinction of species and the destruction of habitats.We're not the best, just the most murderous.We are out of harmony with our natural environment,and we see the consequences...the earth is a complex organism, and it is trying to shake us like a bad case of fleas.Always there are new diseases to fight,new disasters to overcome, and the more we try to rise above what we really are, the weaker we become.We over medicate, over vaccinate, over sterilize, and we are not allowing our immune systems to learn to adapt to these new threats,and so we are reliant upon our technology to save us.Eventually,it will catch up to us,and the human species will be another thing for the fossil record.The planet goes through cycles of mass extinction,and we can expect no better than the others who came before us.

Awesome shit Stoney...+++++

Zig Zag Zane · Feb 21, 2009

AGSteve said:
pffff 18 that is young . not to young to understand what a waste of space current mainstream religions are tho. and definitely not to young to know what they believe. i'm 38 this year but i knew what i believed regarding religion when i was first taught RE in primary school. my beliefs haven't changed. ppl go on about faith... i have faith... i have faith that my beliefs are true.

same here man, ive had these views on religion sice i was about 7, its not gonna change, and yeah 18's young, but i love it.

Obama is the anti-Christ!!!

Is Obama the anti-Christ?

For sure!

Hell no!

DontDoDrugs is maybe smoking something other than bud!!

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