Nute & Reverse Osmosis questions For Hydro

rkymtnman

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So I have 610 watts max now. 150 watts at each corner would be over kill I bet lol. Lowe’s or Home Depot has them 55 watt shop lights, I’m using two now. I wonder if I got 4 how good they’d do. I know you can have the plants pretty much touching the light and they don’t seem to be affected by it. It would add another 220 watts in the tent. The only thing Is I think they only come in 5k spectrum. I’m sure I can find a 3k or 35k somewhere online. Strip lights zip tied to the poles would work awesome I bet.
like i said, never done side lighting before but more light (although not too much) from the sides has to be a good thing. something dimmable would be better just in case you see burn at max watts.
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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Hehe I bought another light so I could have a veg tent & a flower tent. I rationalize that it's perfectly normal to have 30+ oz and 5 varieties on hand for personal consumption with the Armageddon approaching. Now I can be Santa for friends, relatives, & med users. I've run out of cash to give to the homeless on the corners so I'm thinking of giving them weed instead. I wonder how that would be received.
That’s what I’m saying, multiple oz’s of different dank. My next run I’m doing two fruity chronic juice plants. I feel the same way with friends and family, it’s just nice it cost little to get much. Although the initial cost has been high and rising lol.

It does feel like the end is coming for some reason, worlds so upside down. Putin’s an asshole, Biden is a joke and Trumps still running his mouth looking like an idiot. I don’t get how people can’t seem to understand the worlds directed by very few and these idiots are pawns. Honestly, I think the planet needs to cleanse itself of the people virus. I know thats harsh, but we’re greedy and if given the chance, would probably try taking over the universe. God save us when the aliens do find us!
WE NEED CHANGE!
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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like i said, never done side lighting before but more light (although not too much) from the sides has to be a good thing. something dimmable would be better just in case you see burn at max watts.
Right, I’m gonna do some research and figure out what’s good. I’m with you on the dimmer feature. I bet 25 watts in each corner would be good though.
 

OldMedUser

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I have added some new stuff this week. I went and got a new co2 tank that doesn’t have a siphon in it, aluminum, and for beverages. Added a float valve to my control bucket with a 5 gallon bucket res for my test run to make sure it will all work. I think I’m gonna get something that’s ten gallons so I’ll only need to fill it up every other day. I was lucky enough to pick a spot i felt was good in the tote and got my float to set exactly where I wanted it. I also got a big dehumidifier and put it in the tent, set to 50%. My humidity was going thru the roof fast! It would kick my exhaust fan on every 20 minutes or so. So with the dehumidifier in it won’t let it get above 62%. Once the temp gets to 87 I have the dead band on 8. I can’t believe it only goes to 9.9, but whatever.

I have the PPM set to 1300 bc it will go up to 1600 and my normal without co2 reading in the room is around 500. So I know it’s reading at least 100 ppms off. Dead band is 200. With the way I have it now it kicks on every 45 minutes and runs for about 7, 8 minutes. I Have the ball on my reg set to 1. Figure I’ll let it seep in slow so it can take more accurate readings and not just dump a shit ton in and waste it. It only cost 25 bucks to exchange the tank.

Just bought an EcoPlus 1/10 HP water chiller! Can’t wait for it to come! I have like everything I’ve ever wanted to grow now, and only for two plants hahaha.

Weather here Sundays going to be near 70. This weather this year is so crazy. Gas, mother fuckers! 4.19 a gallon. Make me sick!!!! I didn’t even want to fill my tank.

Here’s some picture of things as of late. I’ve been feeding them a shit ton of nutes and epsom. They get darker for a day and the next day they start getting light again. My EC the last time I checked was 2.2 and they didn’t even burn at all! These are strawberry kusk aka stush from homegrown. What would you say it looks like, Nitrogen?
Cheers dude

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I just filled up today and it was $1.50/L so x 3.78l/USG was $5.67/USG and with the exchange rate being what it is about the same as what you're paying. Amazing how the minute the price of oil goes up so does the gas at the pumps. Even tho their storage tanks are still full of fuel that was made using cheaper feed stock. Somebody besides us getting a little richer. :(

Compared to what the people of Ukrainia are suffering I think I can handle paying a bit more for gas. Everything is gone way up. 4L jug of whole milk was $7.59. $5.29 a year ago. Nabob coffee was $26.97 for a 2lb can but luckily it goes on sale once in a while for $10 and we buy the max. Grabbed a can out of the cupboard today and did a count and we have 14 full ones in there so good to the next sale. Lot of products not on the shelves like cereals and very little on sale these days either. Was going to sell my '05 Malibu but think I'll get it back on the road for the spring. Uses half the gas my '08 Saturn Vue uses but would never have got me out of the driveway today with the snow that drifted in. The Vue went through it pretty easy but the wife never would have made it. Not quite 4x4 performance but that AWD and a heavy vehicle does not bad. Good chunky snow tires help too.

You win the lotto or something? All those toys aren't cheap but fun to have eh! :) I got way more grow related stuff than I really need but not worth shit to flog on Kijiji or somewhere now. I blew about 3G in the last 3 years on goodies like the CO2 controller, 300, Light Rail 4.0, 400, TrimPro Unplugged, used, 300, bulbs, pots etc etc. Just ordered 8 bales of ProMix HP but still $37.50 each. Setting up my outdoor patch in a 30x5' raised bed the wife set up a few years ago that is more exposed further out in the back yard. Lots of top soil/compost in there now but not a very loose mix so the HP will fix that. Getting 60L of perlite as well. Got lots of compost here to toss in too. Want a dozen plants out there this year if not more. They will get full sun out there from morning to night unlike the spot I grew in close to the house. Tall alder trees cost a good 6 hours of direct sun/day there and I got 6oz off each auto so should do better with 18hrs of sun every day for most of July/Aug. Harvested mid-Sept last year.

Gets wicked wind out there so plan to put up a snow-fence wall on the west end. Nothing but open field for a mile to the west where the worst of it comes from. Trees will block the wind from every other direction.

Here’s some picture of things as of late. I’ve been feeding them a shit ton of nutes and epsom. They get darker for a day and the next day they start getting light again. My EC the last time I checked was 2.2 and they didn’t even burn at all! These are strawberry kusk aka stush from homegrown. What would you say it looks like, Nitrogen?
If you're talking about the light green grow tips that's just fast growing plants that take a while to 'green up' with exposure to light. Finally got mine doing that so flipping to flower in a week or so. Low N would show up in the old fan leaves first.

That's a snazzy looking controller there. What did that set you back? Mine's just a simple one with LEDs for level indicators but was $300 and the same one with the digital readout was 200 more.

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Should get some good runs out of that setup.

:peace:
 
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Incredible4Mr2E

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I just filled up today and it was $1.50/L so x 3.78l/USG was $5.67/USG and with the exchange rate being what it is about the same as what you're paying. Amazing how the minute the price of oil goes up so does the gas at the pumps. Even tho their storage tanks are still full of fuel that was made using cheaper feed stock. Somebody besides us getting a little richer. :(

Compared to what the people of Ukrainia are suffering I think I can handle paying a bit more for gas. Everything is gone way up. 4L jug of whole milk was $7.59. $5.29 a year ago. Nabob coffee was $26.97 for a 2lb can but luckily it goes on sale once in a while for $10 and we buy the max. Grabbed a can out of the cupboard today and did a count and we have 14 full ones in there so good to the next sale. Lot of products not on the shelves like cereals and very little on sale these days either. Was going to sell my '05 Malibu but think I'll get it back on the road for the spring. Uses half the gas my '08 Saturn Vue uses but would never have got me out of the driveway today with the snow that drifted in. The Vue went through it pretty easy but the wife never would have made it. Not quite 4x4 performance but that AWD and a heavy vehicle does not bad. Good chunky snow tires help too.

You win the lotto or something? All those toys aren't cheap but fun to have eh! :) I got way more grow related stuff than I really need but not worth shit to flog on Kijiji or somewhere now. I blew about 3G in the last 3 years on goodies like the CO2 controller, 300, Light Rail 4.0, 400, TrimPro Unplugged, used, 300, bulbs, pots etc etc. Just ordered 8 bales of ProMix HP but still $37.50 each. Setting up my outdoor patch in a 30x5' raised bed the wife set up a few years ago that is more exposed further out in the back yard. Lots of top soil/compost in there now but not a very loose mix so the HP will fix that. Getting 60L of perlite as well. Got lots of compost here to toss in too. Want a dozen plants out there this year if not more. They will get full sun out there from morning to night unlike the spot I grew in close to the house. Tall alder trees cost a good 6 hours of direct sun/day there and I got 6oz off each auto so should do better with 18hrs of sun every day for most of July/Aug. Harvested mid-Sept last year.

Gets wicked wind out there so plan to put up a snow-fence wall on the west end. Nothing but open field for a mile to the west where the worst of it comes from. Trees will block the wind from every other direction.



If you're talking about the light green grow tips that's just fast growing plants that take a while to 'green up' with exposure to light. Finally got mine doing that so flipping to flower in a week or so. Low N would show up in the old fan leaves first.

That's a snazzy looking controller there. What did that set you back? Mine's just a simple one with LEDs for level indicators but was $300 and the same one with the digital readout was 200 more.

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Should get some good runs out of that setup.

:peace:
Once I realized I had a co2 tank I figured I’d get a timer and regulator, simple enough. Talking to my buddy, he has a closet grow himself with a titan controller. He was talking about needing to be shut and humidity and heat build up being an issue. So I started doing research and looking around. I came across this item on eBay for a year old controller and titan regulator. I put an offer of 150 in, they took 160 for it. I figured if the regulator leaked, I went to a trade school for welding when I was younger for three years and worked many jobs, I can definitely fix it or exchange parts out. My other buddy is a genius with electronics and soldering. If something was wrong or burnt out my buddy could repair it to new for 20 bucks plus parts. Turns out the controller is working perfectly and the regulator had absolutely no leaks, score. My buddy was saying some of the controllers only dead band temp by like 4 and 6 I guess. So he asked what mine was. When I told him 9.9, he was like “are you serious?!” He paid a lot for his titan control and reg. Lol I have like 200 into the entire CO2 setup, and the controller does everything. I have day and night settings and the dead bands are really good.

Ok, I was wondering if they were extremely hungry. These guy can take a meal in and are drink about 2 gallons a day at the moment. Each day they start drinking more and more. The only thing that sucks is my dehumidifier water tray is in the back and I have to lift it out in order to get the water dumped. It’s doing a wonderful job so far and my reg pressure hasn’t dropped as of yet. So everything smooth on that end as well.

My buddy found that out the hard way himself on his property. The sun would start going behind the trees around 6, losing 3 hrs of light. He has a spot now that’s fully sunned out. I’m gonna do a couple myself outside this year. I’m gonna go get some soil from a local farmer I know. I’m gonna use my posthole digger and open it up and throw the soil in the hole.

I wish I won the lotto! Lol Me and the wife both have good jobs and are fortunate enough to spoil with certain things.

I was reading about the stock pile and can’t believe what we’re allowing to happen. The other day milk here was like 4.20 something a gallon. This is getting out of hand and people are going to break soon. Too much too fast is happening in this world. I was watching videos online about Russians protesting all of this. Saw another where the Ukrainians where bringing wounded Russians into the hospitals to save there life’s. It’s almost sad to say, but watching actually people recording events is more believable thn watching any news station. Doesn’t matter if it’s fox or cnn. Hopefully everything goes back to normal soon.

On a positive note, I can’t believe how much faster these things are growing using that co2, blows my mind. My kids watching this game call limbo, games kind of cool looking. Games have changed so much since I was a kid. I hope you’re having a good Saturday dude
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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I just filled up today and it was $1.50/L so x 3.78l/USG was $5.67/USG and with the exchange rate being what it is about the same as what you're paying. Amazing how the minute the price of oil goes up so does the gas at the pumps. Even tho their storage tanks are still full of fuel that was made using cheaper feed stock. Somebody besides us getting a little richer. :(

Compared to what the people of Ukrainia are suffering I think I can handle paying a bit more for gas. Everything is gone way up. 4L jug of whole milk was $7.59. $5.29 a year ago. Nabob coffee was $26.97 for a 2lb can but luckily it goes on sale once in a while for $10 and we buy the max. Grabbed a can out of the cupboard today and did a count and we have 14 full ones in there so good to the next sale. Lot of products not on the shelves like cereals and very little on sale these days either. Was going to sell my '05 Malibu but think I'll get it back on the road for the spring. Uses half the gas my '08 Saturn Vue uses but would never have got me out of the driveway today with the snow that drifted in. The Vue went through it pretty easy but the wife never would have made it. Not quite 4x4 performance but that AWD and a heavy vehicle does not bad. Good chunky snow tires help too.

You win the lotto or something? All those toys aren't cheap but fun to have eh! :) I got way more grow related stuff than I really need but not worth shit to flog on Kijiji or somewhere now. I blew about 3G in the last 3 years on goodies like the CO2 controller, 300, Light Rail 4.0, 400, TrimPro Unplugged, used, 300, bulbs, pots etc etc. Just ordered 8 bales of ProMix HP but still $37.50 each. Setting up my outdoor patch in a 30x5' raised bed the wife set up a few years ago that is more exposed further out in the back yard. Lots of top soil/compost in there now but not a very loose mix so the HP will fix that. Getting 60L of perlite as well. Got lots of compost here to toss in too. Want a dozen plants out there this year if not more. They will get full sun out there from morning to night unlike the spot I grew in close to the house. Tall alder trees cost a good 6 hours of direct sun/day there and I got 6oz off each auto so should do better with 18hrs of sun every day for most of July/Aug. Harvested mid-Sept last year.

Gets wicked wind out there so plan to put up a snow-fence wall on the west end. Nothing but open field for a mile to the west where the worst of it comes from. Trees will block the wind from every other direction.



If you're talking about the light green grow tips that's just fast growing plants that take a while to 'green up' with exposure to light. Finally got mine doing that so flipping to flower in a week or so. Low N would show up in the old fan leaves first.

That's a snazzy looking controller there. What did that set you back? Mine's just a simple one with LEDs for level indicators but was $300 and the same one with the digital readout was 200 more.

View attachment 5096410

Should get some good runs out of that setup.

:peace:
Check these out dude. 2 on each of the 4 poles. Gives it 40 watts a pole.
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OldMedUser

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Once I realized I had a co2 tank I figured I’d get a timer and regulator, simple enough. Talking to my buddy, he has a closet grow himself with a titan controller. He was talking about needing to be shut and humidity and heat build up being an issue. So I started doing research and looking around. I came across this item on eBay for a year old controller and titan regulator. I put an offer of 150 in, they took 160 for it. I figured if the regulator leaked, I went to a trade school for welding when I was younger for three years and worked many jobs, I can definitely fix it or exchange parts out. My other buddy is a genius with electronics and soldering. If something was wrong or burnt out my buddy could repair it to new for 20 bucks plus parts. Turns out the controller is working perfectly and the regulator had absolutely no leaks, score. My buddy was saying some of the controllers only dead band temp by like 4 and 6 I guess. So he asked what mine was. When I told him 9.9, he was like “are you serious?!” He paid a lot for his titan control and reg. Lol I have like 200 into the entire CO2 setup, and the controller does everything. I have day and night settings and the dead bands are really good.

Ok, I was wondering if they were extremely hungry. These guy can take a meal in and are drink about 2 gallons a day at the moment. Each day they start drinking more and more. The only thing that sucks is my dehumidifier water tray is in the back and I have to lift it out in order to get the water dumped. It’s doing a wonderful job so far and my reg pressure hasn’t dropped as of yet. So everything smooth on that end as well.

My buddy found that out the hard way himself on his property. The sun would start going behind the trees around 6, losing 3 hrs of light. He has a spot now that’s fully sunned out. I’m gonna do a couple myself outside this year. I’m gonna go get some soil from a local farmer I know. I’m gonna use my posthole digger and open it up and throw the soil in the hole.

I wish I won the lotto! Lol Me and the wife both have good jobs and are fortunate enough to spoil with certain things.

I was reading about the stock pile and can’t believe what we’re allowing to happen. The other day milk here was like 4.20 something a gallon. This is getting out of hand and people are going to break soon. Too much too fast is happening in this world. I was watching videos online about Russians protesting all of this. Saw another where the Ukrainians where bringing wounded Russians into the hospitals to save there life’s. It’s almost sad to say, but watching actually people recording events is more believable thn watching any news station. Doesn’t matter if it’s fox or cnn. Hopefully everything goes back to normal soon.

On a positive note, I can’t believe how much faster these things are growing using that co2, blows my mind. My kids watching this game call limbo, games kind of cool looking. Games have changed so much since I was a kid. I hope you’re having a good Saturday dude
Good deal on the CO2 gear! I have a 75lb tank I bought at a garage sale and used to blast the room but once I got the controller and could see how high the ppm went realized I was blasting way too much and had run the tank dry before I got the controller. I had the controller plugged in to see how much it went up in different scenarios. Turns out I can't just get the tank refilled as I need an account with the supply company and the tank is just a rental. Could be hot for all I know so it just sits out in the carport.

Just being in the room for half an hour got it up over 1250 and burning a small emergency candle in there got it over 1500 in 20 min. Then I made an alcohol lamp using 3/8" copper tubing soldered onto a mason jar lid with a tiki torch wick and it got it over 1500 in 15 min so I'd be running downstairs every half hour to either light it or put it out. Then I made one using 3/16" tubing and a cotton shoelace for a wick and it takes over half an hour to get to 1500 but uses only 100ml/day to be on for 12 hours. Two 4L jugs of 99% methyl hydrate at $10 each is enough for a flowering cycle. Good enough for me so unless I come into a bit of money I'll stick with that. I really only use it during the stretch as I'm growing in a soil/soilless mix using mostly organics these days so only half a jug for that. Finally getting the hang of it after mostly doing DWC for almost 20 years.

I'm old enough to remember the Bay of Pigs nuclear scare and feeling the same apprehensions all over again. I also remember how to stay safe. Duck and Cover! Or bend over, place head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye! lol Scary shit happening.

:peace:
 

OldMedUser

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Check these bad boys out!
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Now way 8 - 4' T5s are 1000W equivalent. Not even close. I already have an 8" Vivisun inline fan. Built in speed controller too and it was only $125 Canadian when I got it a year or more ago off amazon . ca. Still in the box while I wait for my no-name 6" to die but it keeps chugging along. Have a new 600cfm Canfilter carbon filter still in the box and I've had that for 5 years at least and it was $160 or something.

:peace:
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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Now way 8 - 4' T5s are 1000W equivalent. Not even close. I already have an 8" Vivisun inline fan. Built in speed controller too and it was only $125 Canadian when I got it a year or more ago off amazon . ca. Still in the box while I wait for my no-name 6" to die but it keeps chugging along. Have a new 600cfm Canfilter carbon filter still in the box and I've had that for 5 years at least and it was $160 or something.

:peace:
I saw that and said the same thing, no fucking way. Could be worth a try for the price though. I have almost one of everything besides my light for backup.
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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Good deal on the CO2 gear! I have a 75lb tank I bought at a garage sale and used to blast the room but once I got the controller and could see how high the ppm went realized I was blasting way too much and had run the tank dry before I got the controller. I had the controller plugged in to see how much it went up in different scenarios. Turns out I can't just get the tank refilled as I need an account with the supply company and the tank is just a rental. Could be hot for all I know so it just sits out in the carport.

Just being in the room for half an hour got it up over 1250 and burning a small emergency candle in there got it over 1500 in 20 min. Then I made an alcohol lamp using 3/8" copper tubing soldered onto a mason jar lid with a tiki torch wick and it got it over 1500 in 15 min so I'd be running downstairs every half hour to either light it or put it out. Then I made one using 3/16" tubing and a cotton shoelace for a wick and it takes over half an hour to get to 1500 but uses only 100ml/day to be on for 12 hours. Two 4L jugs of 99% methyl hydrate at $10 each is enough for a flowering cycle. Good enough for me so unless I come into a bit of money I'll stick with that. I really only use it during the stretch as I'm growing in a soil/soilless mix using mostly organics these days so only half a jug for that. Finally getting the hang of it after mostly doing DWC for almost 20 years.

I'm old enough to remember the Bay of Pigs nuclear scare and feeling the same apprehensions all over again. I also remember how to stay safe. Duck and Cover! Or bend over, place head between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye! lol Scary shit happening.

:peace:
Yeah, I asked the guy at hauns about tanks. He told me anything over 50 gallons is a rental. I don’t think you’ll get in trouble or nothing for having it. They’d probably be happy you found it if you tell them you bought it legally and had no clue. Maybe they’d give you a 20 gallon one in exchange.


Sounds like you
Have your system down to a science now. I’m getting there, I just need about 20 more grows lol.

We were told tuck, duck and roll lol
 

OldMedUser

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Yeah, I asked the guy at hauns about tanks. He told me anything over 50 gallons is a rental. I don’t think you’ll get in trouble or nothing for having it. They’d probably be happy you found it if you tell them you bought it legally and had no clue. Maybe they’d give you a 20 gallon one in exchange.


Sounds like you
Have your system down to a science now. I’m getting there, I just need about 20 more grows lol.

We were told tuck, duck and roll lol
Yeah I called the local welding supply place and that's when I found out about needing an account and the tanks all have serial numbers so I doubt the guy I got it from was legit as there's a $200 deposit on the one I have. Thinking I might just drop it off somewhere where it will be found and returned.

No rolling unless on fire! lol We had drills at school and had to dive under our desks and lace your fingers behind your neck kneeling in a fetal position. That was in grade1 ffs and I was still 5 when I started school. B-day in Oct and they wanted me to wait a year while my parents wanted to have me go into grade 3 right off as I was already reading and writing better than that. Not happening in 1960. I grew up in Richmond next to Vancouver, BC and as it was a prime target we had air raid sirens all over with one just 1/4 mile from our house. They would have a drill every month and that would be in the papers, TV and radio so people didn't freak out. My parents would tell us when it would happen and if were to hear the sirens without warning to get home ASAP! Damn things went off by accident more than schedule. I knew wtf was going on during the Cuban missile crisis too and would be watching the 6 o'clock news with my dad every night while Walter Cronkite calmly told us what was going on. No speculation or talking heads either. Just the facts. Where did that go I wonder.

Gotta stop watching the news before I start building a bomb shelter. :)

PS: How come you didn't lay some plastic down over the carpet before setting up? Nobody never has a spill.

:peace:
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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how well does it work? I thought about doing that I was just worried about the copper reacting with the salts.
What do you mean by copper interacting with the salts? The water runs thru an aluminum block, no copper at all. I see people make DIY chillers and throw a copper coil in the control bucket to keep temps down. I didn’t like that for the reason you’re stating. Right now with the tent closed I can keep the room cooler and let the controller exhaust when it does get hot, roughly every 45 minutes. With that being said, ambient temps in the room with the tent in it are 65, 70 degrees Fahrenheit. The summer time my temps are around the same but the ac cooling the room never seems to be able to keep up with the water cooling off. Usually around 72-74 degrees. That’s why I made the jump to buy a real water chiller. I have too much money invested to worry about rotting roots. It works, but not the best
 
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