Nute & Reverse Osmosis questions For Hydro

MustGro

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Electric motors are a game-changer. Max torque at 0 rpm has to be experienced to be believed.
Yeah it's fucked up. We're all used to putting RPM on an engine to get it to pull hard. Electrics are the opposite; max torque just off idle. Electric streetcars sure are quick off the line and hard to beat with a car if the driver wants to drag.
It's just the battery technology that needs to get better. We're back where we used to be with computers when they first came out when it comes to battery technology. We're using 286 version batteries right now but that'll change. No way we'll be waiting 6 hours to charge our cars in 10 years. You'll go to the service station and the robot will remove the battery pack from under your car and lift in a charged one. Or you'll be able to put 6 hours of charge in in 30 minutes. It'll all happen; people won't accept less convenience. We'll see 2000 HP cars with 1000 mile ranges in 10 years.
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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Yeah it's fucked up. We're all used to putting RPM on an engine to get it to pull hard. Electrics are the opposite; max torque just off idle. Electric streetcars sure are quick off the line and hard to beat with a car if the driver wants to drag.
It's just the battery technology that needs to get better. We're back where we used to be with computers when they first came out when it comes to battery technology. We're using 286 version batteries right now but that'll change. No way we'll be waiting 6 hours to charge our cars in 10 years. You'll go to the service station and the robot will remove the battery pack from under your car and lift in a charged one. Or you'll be able to put 6 hours of charge in in 30 minutes. It'll all happen; people won't accept less convenience. We'll see 2000 HP cars with 1000 mile ranges in 10 years.
I’ve heard the new Tesla is faster then a Bugatti Veyron. Plus the cost between the two. I’ve never thought of it in the long haul terms. I remember reading something that Biden signed a bill for the military to start using all electric vehicles. If that’s really true, they’re going to really start putting money into that technology.
 

1212ham

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I’m hoping I can get it out. I don’t know if I’m going over kill, but I’ll have 3 pre sediment filters. First will be 20 microns, next 10 and the third 5. After that I’ll have it run into a dual carbon filter. After the dual carbon filters it will go into the RO setup I got and after the membrane I have a dual DI filter system. I’m hoping that will get everything out. Over kill?
First thing I would do is determine if your building has softened water, hard water greatly shortens the life RO membranes. I doubt the sediment filters will do anything, the calcium is dissolved and the RO system already has sediment filters. The DI will remove the last few ppm but there's no reason to, RO is more than good enough for growing.
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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First thing I would do is determine if your building has softened water, hard water greatly shortens the life RO membranes. I doubt the sediment filters will do anything, the calcium is dissolved and the RO system already has sediment filters. The DI will remove the last few ppm but there's no reason to, RO is more than good enough for growing.
I’ve been so busy with work, I haven’t had a chance todo anything until today. I got my water system up and going with what I have, I don’t think I’ll need more. What a bitch getting the RO setup not to leak! It’s up and not leaking anymore. So I started with a 1 micron sediment filter, after into the RO system and final cleaning in the dual DI setup. I haven’t ran TDS yet bc I haven’t packed the resin in. I wanted to make sure it was leak free before I feel comfortable with it. It says it’s a 50 GPD RO but I’m getting like a gallon an hr. I’m fine with it bc I’m going to start storing it. Any recommendations? Do I need an air pump in it and a disinfect of any kind? Is a plastic garbage can with lid alright? I’ve seen people store water in the bigger black ones. I rent and can’t put holes in the walls. To get water I just tapped into the toilet water lol It’s ghetto but works lmao6CF78D4C-0D00-4378-8013-B45DE72DFA0A.jpeg
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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Hey guys! So I have clones going, should have roots popping this week. So I went with AN micro ph balanced line and have the hobby level nutes. My water swings from 68-74 throughout the day and did a dry run of the system for 2 weeks. It wasn’t slimy but the sides were definitely slick feeling. I also got a 33 gallon trash can and held water with its own dedicated air pump for two weeks. Same thing, but the water stayed between 66-71 degrees. It stays cooler I believe bc it doesn’t have the bigger air pump and water pump. Im going to get Sensizym or HO2O. Any advice on either or a better way to battle the bads in a warm system? I’ll be getting a water chiller for my next grow. 654F2C99-BB0C-4119-BE72-5E9DD9246B2E.jpeg
 

Failmore

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Hey guys! So I have clones going, should have roots popping this week. So I went with AN micro ph balanced line and have the hobby level nutes. My water swings from 68-74 throughout the day and did a dry run of the system for 2 weeks. It wasn’t slimy but the sides were definitely slick feeling. I also got a 33 gallon trash can and held water with its own dedicated air pump for two weeks. Same thing, but the water stayed between 66-71 degrees. It stays cooler I believe bc it doesn’t have the bigger air pump and water pump. Im going to get Sensizym or HO2O. Any advice on either or a better way to battle the bads in a warm system? I’ll be getting a water chiller for my next grow. View attachment 4990959
If your going sterile pool shock is hard to beat. Cheap and easy. .01g per gallon or so. I stop measuring. Just put some in the res every other day.
 

ComputerSaysNo

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i wish everybody would forget ppm and just use EC.
It evades me why the US needs to have their own, usually a lot less convenient, system of measurement for EVERYTHING.

"How do you measure EC? In SIEMENS? Sorry, can't have names of German dudes, let's do PPM, and since we're the Land of the Free, let's give people OPTIONS. So there will be 3 conversion tables and it will not be possible to see which one has been used. Can't step on other people's toes too much."

It also applies to standards for fittings, paper size, tubes, boxes, screws, your mom, everything. The World uses X, and the US uses Z-squared. Jeez.

At least there are hours, minutes and seconds in the US, would hate having to convert that as well all the time in my head.
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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It evades me why the US needs to have their own, usually a lot less convenient, system of measurement for EVERYTHING.

"How do you measure EC? In SIEMENS? Sorry, can't have names of German dudes, let's do PPM, and since we're the Land of the Free, let's give people OPTIONS. So there will be 3 conversion tables and it will not be possible to see which one has been used. Can't step on other people's toes too much."

It also applies to standards for fittings, paper size, tubes, boxes, screws, your mom, everything. The World uses X, and the US uses Z-squared. Jeez.

At least there are hours, minutes and seconds in the US, would hate having to convert that as well all the time in my head.
It would be great if the world used one size fits all. The threads on screws and different pitches piss me off bad!
 

HighThere

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No need for an RO system. Get a big blue, a refillable canister and some DI resin. Its the same stuff used for aquarium systems. You'll have close to 0 ppm water without waste. I just did it in my grow and the water went from 850PPM to 100PPM with a single 20" x 4.5" filter. I'll add one more to get to 0.
 

Treesomewanted77

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I’ve heard on the old utube that you can use vitamin C powder to get rid of all chlorine and clorimines without waiting the 24hrs they guy said it only takes 10 minutes doesn’t anyone know if there is any truth to that?
 

MustGro

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No need for an RO system. Get a big blue, a refillable canister and some DI resin. Its the same stuff used for aquarium systems. You'll have close to 0 ppm water without waste. I just did it in my grow and the water went from 850PPM to 100PPM with a single 20" x 4.5" filter. I'll add one more to get to 0.
Got any pics of that?
 

Incredible4Mr2E

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No need for an RO system. Get a big blue, a refillable canister and some DI resin. Its the same stuff used for aquarium systems. You'll have close to 0 ppm water without waste. I just did it in my grow and the water went from 850PPM to 100PPM with a single 20" x 4.5" filter. I'll add one more to get to 0.
I already have a dual DI system. I don’t use it bc the RO system gets it to 40 ppm. I honestly don’t care about the waste either, my landlord pays for water and knows everything I’m doing. I went over board on my water. One of the pipes in the building went bad and I was asked if I could run new pex for him. We have a really good water softener in the basement I didn’t know was there. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever fill the canisters to use the DI setup. it’s hooked up just incase but I don’t think I’ll put media in it. I want to get a UV light for it but I think I’ll wait image.jpg
 

OldMedUser

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I already have a dual DI system. I don’t use it bc the RO system gets it to 40 ppm. I honestly don’t care about the waste either, my landlord pays for water and knows everything I’m doing. I went over board on my water. One of the pipes in the building went bad and I was asked if I could run new pex for him. We have a really good water softener in the basement I didn’t know was there. I honestly don’t think I’ll ever fill the canisters to use the DI setup. it’s hooked up just incase but I don’t think I’ll put media in it. I want to get a UV light for it but I think I’ll wait
If you're using already treated town/city water to feed your RO system you have no need for a UV sterilizer unless your a germiphobe. I got one for my system, (yet to be installed), but my tap water comes from a dugout on my property so is not potable out of the tap. We only filter it down to 5µ so will have a 1µ pre-filter then a 0.5µ carbon filter along with a standard carbon filter ahead of the RO filter then a tap off for the plants before the water goes to the UV unit as the plants don't need the water to be sterile. After teh UV filter is another tap to get water for the coffee maker and kettle before it goes to a calcite filter to 'polish' the water for drinking and add back some minerals. I considered a DI filter but really don't need lab quality water and can get 4L jugs of distilled DI water from the drug store for under $4 to make my colloidal silver with.

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