Now What Are We Going to do About the 25 Mile Rule.

AZCS Bryan said:

Well guys, dispensary's are coming, the time is now.

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What are you guys planning to do about it at AZCS? I knw that 25 mile rule is going to fuck the compassion clubs pretty hard so i would assume you guys would alll pull together and file a lawsuit or two to slow down these Dispensaries opening.

Me being proactive I got all 5 of my patients in podunk towns throughout AZ that will never have a Dispensary and I drive out to each and every one of them as they need =)

AZCS was never intended as a compassion club. We only went the collective route because dispensary permits were not being permitted.

We are switching gears and going to apply for dispensary permits (multiple).

I have offered our resources to the guys on hydrobreed, and I have lined up a legal consultant who is chomping at the bit to get started, but he hasn't heard anything from anyone yet...

AZCS is busy trying to take the next steps in our natural business plan, but not too busy to assist the community with removing something that should never have been on the law to begin with. I will use any resource thats available to us to spread the word and get more voices, but the rest is on YOU guys.

There is now a spot on our forums for meeting/organizing as well. Any important events or things that need to be signed should be posted here: CLICKY

LV, hopefully you live out of a 25 mile distance as well. According to the DHS FAQ, both the caregiver and patients need to be 25 miles away in order for your plan to go through.

Bryan, I started a thread and have talked to hydrogregg about helping me get things going the past few days. I have talked to several attorneys in the last couple of days. I am going to post my stuff from my other thread I started. There's an attorney in Sedona that grows his own meds, and was at a local grow shop. He mentioned that he knows for a fact that the 25 mile is unconstitutional. I am trying to get a hold of him to help out.

Fight the good fight!

"I have offered our resources to the guys on hydrobreed, and I have lined up a legal consultant who is chomping at the bit to get started, but he hasn't heard anything from anyone yet... "

I'll call & help Him if he has questions or ? Lawyers are EASY to find & if this one is waiting for more info, let's give Him a call. Number ?

This is what I wrote:
...As many of you may already know, the lawsuit compassion first vs. AZ was settled in court on January 16th, 2012. Dispensaries will open soon.

There is one part of the law that we all share in common as patients and caregivers…the infamous DHS 25 mile rule for having your own cultivation and providing yourself with medication. Many disabled patients, low income patients, etc. will be an unable to afford the inflated costs of the medication from dispensaries, and forcing them to seek it elsewhere. According to the suit filed by compassion first, that 25 mile rule MAY bare some merit for another lawsuit to have this overturned as well. I spoke with an attorney involved in the compassion first suit, and they eluded that it was a conflict of interest for them to handle the case. They said their clients are happy with the 25 mile rule. OF COURSE THEY ARE!

Under Arizona constitution, its equal privileges and immunities clause similarly mandates that: "No law shall be enacted granting...PRIVILAGES or immunities which, upon the same terms, shall not equally belong to all citizens or corporations." Arizona constitution, Article 2-13.

Not sure, but it sounds like if a dispensary sets up shop within a 25 mile distance of you, patients and caregivers will then be denied the PRIVILAGE to grow their own meds. Instead the PRIVILAGES to cultivate will be given to a dispensary and force patients/caregivers to buy at whatever cost, if they want their meds. This doesn't sound "equal" to me.

Anyone well versed in constitutional law and the DHS regs, pls let me know if this may have merit. Thanks

With the judge Gama ruling in favor of the compassion first (filled with 3yr non-residents); Gama changed the DHS rules that require dispensaries applicants to:

1. Be an Arizona resident for three years
2. Have filed personal income taxes in Arizona for the previous three years
3. Have never before filed for personal or corporate bankruptcy &
4. Not be delinquent on child support, taxes, parking tickets, student loans or other unpaid debts to the government.

If you thought that a dispensary license was a lottery initially...what will your odds be now that the 3yr residency rule is out? Big business (deep pockets) wins again!

Wolfhound,

I wish it was that easy...as the conversation was in passing with him. I have no contact number at this time, but am attempting to reach him in another way.

Actually I looked that up & posted it days ago. I have contacted them & offered to help with the situation. Thanks for setting this up !

Lucius Vorenus said:

What are you guys planning to do about it at AZCS? I knw that 25 mile rule is going to fuck the compassion clubs pretty hard so i would assume you guys would alll pull together and file a lawsuit or two to slow down these Dispensaries opening.

Me being proactive I got all 5 of my patients in podunk towns throughout AZ that will never have a Dispensary and I drive out to each and every one of them as they need =)

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You cant be that dumb can you??? lol like AZCS arent doing cartwheels right now. They intended to be a full on dispensary from the start just jumped through hoops and found some loops to make things happen while they had to wait.

BeaverHuntr said:

You cant be that dumb can you??? lol like AZCS arent doing cartwheels right now. They intended to be a full on dispensary from the start just jumped through hoops and found some loops to make things happen while they had to wait.

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Yup, everyone knows what their really about. = )

farmin said:

LV, hopefully you live out of a 25 mile distance as well. According to the DHS FAQ, both the caregiver and patients need to be 25 miles away in order for your plan to go through.

Bryan, I started a thread and have talked to hydrogregg about helping me get things going the past few days. I have talked to several attorneys in the last couple of days. I am going to post my stuff from my other thread I started. There's an attorney in Sedona that grows his own meds, and was at a local grow shop. He mentioned that he knows for a fact that the 25 mile is unconstitutional. I am trying to get a hold of him to help out.

Fight the good fight!

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Found this on their site http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/faqs/caregivers.htm#Q09

That's funny. I just reviewed the FAQ's for that very reason. I stand corrected, I think...It appears, by the wording, it's the pts that have to live outside the 25 mile distance and the caregiver would not have too.

I finally had an opportunity to sit down with our CFO, and a few other silent parties who want to take this head on. AZCS is officially coming out in support of this both financially, and politically. I couldn't announce it until I was sure, and had final approval. There are also quite a few patients who have expressed interest in helping.

It seems that they want have any dispensaries until this summer. If you signed up in april then you can renew your license in march. No dispensary you get another year to grow. I live in pinal county and i'm not at all worried. We have a lot of schools where I live so where the hell will they put one. Also they have to put up $150,000 to the state to even get started.

And there would be many hundreds of dispensaries if it wasn't for Prop 203 limiting the amount to 10% of the amount of pharmacies in the state . . . The state constitution covers our legal right to grow. Just needs to be brought to the attention of our state government.

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/open-for-business/Content?oid=3214532I was checking out this artical and was wondering if their not a club or a dispensary how are they getting around the law and distributing?

Even if I had the money I would be worrying about the feds coming in and taking my stuff. Look what holder has told other states. 60 day warning that they are coming to close them down. If Oregon can keep them out why can't Arizona? Does anyone know the answer to that???????? Maybe we can learn something from them to help.

You mean the same Feds that were going to shut down the dispensaries in California ? No telling how many private growers there are in the U.S. , let alone the multi thousands of dispensaries & their grows. Do you think they have the time, people, or even care about an individual growing ?

really trying said:

Even if I had the money I would be worrying about the feds coming in and taking my stuff. Look what holder has told other states. 60 day warning that they are coming to close them down. If Oregon can keep them out why can't Arizona? Does anyone know the answer to that???????? Maybe we can learn something from them to help.

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Oregon doesn't have dispensaries from my recollection. So, no big businesses cultivating over 100 plants. It's kinda funny the 25 mile rule is just as dangerous to dispensaries in AZ as it is patients. Actually, the AZ dispensary model is dangerous, imo. If you require a dispensary to cultivate 70% of it's own meds; that would put you over the 99 plant limit wouldn't it? I don't know I am just some tard that calls RIU his 'home'