april
Pickle Queen
I don't attend church for this very reason, my spiritual beliefs are my own, why should i be told how and when to practice it. Fuck i hate all organized religion.
Even Katie holmes put her foot down..... lol
Nonbelievers, how did you lose your religion?
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Even Katie holmes put her foot down..... lol
rpgdude
Member
Nothing is proven! Zip! Hey my 5yo nephew has an imaginary friend and believes in Santa. Would you like me to ask him what God is telling his friend? One sec....................................................................................................God said don't argue with brainwashed idiots. Now that's proof there is a god if ever there was proof.
I just grew up I guess.... I once believed in Santa Claus, and the Easter bunny, and Batman. Once I realized these were all fake characters I just eventually applied the same reasoning skills to religion. Plus if you look at some religions like Scientology, which is completely wacko, and then say, "but wait it has all the same principals of a 'legitimate' religion, like Christianity, a well received religion", it's just ludicrous to believe that either are true. Can't we just live by some nice moral boundaries without having to pray or repent or kill women that cheat on their husbands (for all those barbaric dipshits in the middle-east). Science has pretty much proven all we need to know about our whereabouts in this grand universe not God or Buddha or Zenu. With that said isn't it also naive to believe we are the only 'semi'-intelligent living creatures in the fucking universe...... Seriously people how fucking vain are we to think that if there is truly a God, that He would put only us halfway, inbred, horrible at relations, warmongering asshholes in the entire fucking place. And if I am right about extra-terrestrials how many do you think have heard of Jesus or Mohammed? None, I'm willing to bet. 
HeartlandHank
Well-Known Member
I was raised in a small, old school church. No instruments were allowed. The preacher could not even used PA equipment. It was sort of like the whiter version of baptist.
So my parents made me go, every Sunday. I had a fear of commiting sins. I prayed, all that.
When I was about 13 or 14 years old, in gym class one day, I heard this girl say something about there being no god. She said it like it was just the dead obvious. My jaw dropped. I had never even thought of it before. Like, wow. No god, huh?
Over a period of a few years i grew more and more skeptical. I soon found out that most of what is in the bible makes no sense, from a historical and scientific view. Without someone over my shoulder to give me a verse, or some bullshit explaining why my skeptic thought was wrong, it just sort of all came to light, quickly.
When I turned about 16, my parents told me I did not have to go if i did not want to, but I should. I haven't been to church since more than 1 or 2 times.
After not going to church for a few months, and using my brain a little bit, it was obvious to me that there was not a god.
If you live around a group of people telling you that there are chickens living inside your feet that will come out and kill you on your 16th birthday, you'll believe because it is all you know.
One thing i can say that was great about the church i grew up in was that it was a great community offering support for the elder people in my small town. Not saying they were all good people. But they did help, except the obese ones (30ish% of them, at least).
We did things for them. Made sure they were doing alright, get them what they need, so on. That part, I took with me after dropping my "beliefs, faith, whatever". My neighbor is a late 70s widow. I take care of her yard and check up on her a couple times a week. Her kids do too, its not like I'm "taking care of her" or anything. I might not be doing that today had I not grown up in that church.
The guilt that was instilled into me about sex at the time i was going through puberty still has an effect on me to this day. My catholic wife, x10.
“I thank God I was raised Catholic, so sex will always be dirty.” John Waters
So my parents made me go, every Sunday. I had a fear of commiting sins. I prayed, all that.
When I was about 13 or 14 years old, in gym class one day, I heard this girl say something about there being no god. She said it like it was just the dead obvious. My jaw dropped. I had never even thought of it before. Like, wow. No god, huh?
Over a period of a few years i grew more and more skeptical. I soon found out that most of what is in the bible makes no sense, from a historical and scientific view. Without someone over my shoulder to give me a verse, or some bullshit explaining why my skeptic thought was wrong, it just sort of all came to light, quickly.
When I turned about 16, my parents told me I did not have to go if i did not want to, but I should. I haven't been to church since more than 1 or 2 times.
After not going to church for a few months, and using my brain a little bit, it was obvious to me that there was not a god.
If you live around a group of people telling you that there are chickens living inside your feet that will come out and kill you on your 16th birthday, you'll believe because it is all you know.
One thing i can say that was great about the church i grew up in was that it was a great community offering support for the elder people in my small town. Not saying they were all good people. But they did help, except the obese ones (30ish% of them, at least).
We did things for them. Made sure they were doing alright, get them what they need, so on. That part, I took with me after dropping my "beliefs, faith, whatever". My neighbor is a late 70s widow. I take care of her yard and check up on her a couple times a week. Her kids do too, its not like I'm "taking care of her" or anything. I might not be doing that today had I not grown up in that church.
The guilt that was instilled into me about sex at the time i was going through puberty still has an effect on me to this day. My catholic wife, x10.
“I thank God I was raised Catholic, so sex will always be dirty.” John Waters
Hepheastus420
Well-Known Member
I'm sure you don't want to be sent to hell for eternity right?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
... if Katie Holmes is there too? cnI'm sure you don't want to be sent to hell for eternity right?
rpgdude
Member
They are an arrogant bunch. God will save me but that starving child just isn't worthy of some food. God will supply all my needs if I give the preacher my money and the preacher is beating his kids. <--Happened to my parents. Pastor got 11 years and the worst part is some of the congregation where bringing him there kids to "discipline" They are all crazy in one way or another.You know what the funniest thing is about religious folks?
You actually believe, that from the very beginning of time itself, you/your people were present AND the center of all life. From the beginning, to the end, it was all about you. Not only were you there and at the top of the pole from the beginning... but when the world will end is when you and your people leave it. Where do you go to? On to the after life for humans. To live forever. This place (Everything in existence, ever heard of a gigaparsec?) was made all just for you to hang out until it is time to go to an even better place that was also made just for you and yours.
this is for you.
Zaehet Strife
Well-Known Member
Let your self go.
If you can approach the world's complexities, both its glories and its horrors, with an attitude of humble curiosity, acknowledging that however deeply you have seen, you have only scratched the surface, you will find worlds within worlds, beauties you could not heretofore imagine, and your own mundane preoccupations will shrink to proper size, not all that important in the greater scheme of things.
Keeping that awestruck vision of the world ready to hand while dealing with the demands of daily living is no easy exercise, but it is definitely worth the effort, for if you can stay centered, and engaged, you will find the hard choices easier, the right words will come to you when you need them, and you will be a better person.
That, I propose, is the secret to spirituality, and it has nothing at all to do with believing in an immortal soul, or in anything supernatural.
If you can approach the world's complexities, both its glories and its horrors, with an attitude of humble curiosity, acknowledging that however deeply you have seen, you have only scratched the surface, you will find worlds within worlds, beauties you could not heretofore imagine, and your own mundane preoccupations will shrink to proper size, not all that important in the greater scheme of things.
Keeping that awestruck vision of the world ready to hand while dealing with the demands of daily living is no easy exercise, but it is definitely worth the effort, for if you can stay centered, and engaged, you will find the hard choices easier, the right words will come to you when you need them, and you will be a better person.
That, I propose, is the secret to spirituality, and it has nothing at all to do with believing in an immortal soul, or in anything supernatural.
Shannon Alexander
Well-Known Member
The Jews aren't white...
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Shannon Alexander
Well-Known Member
I have seen lots of people that I would say are truly white...
Zaehet Strife
Well-Known Member
Polar bears! Polar bears are white!!!!!!!!
rpgdude
Member
Actually there skin is black. . On topic and may have been posted before but here it is. http://youtu.be/6RT6rL2UroE
april
Pickle Queen
Either or as long as Tom Cruise goes back to the mothership i'll be cool....or a tad warm...lol
Zaehet Strife
Well-Known Member
Their fur is white..... damnit....
rpgdude
Member
Fuck you! I was a believer for most of my life and I am not dumb. I was brain washed from birth! My mother gave me to God on the alter at a full Baptist church. She had two girls and prayed for a son, she said "God if you grant me a son I will give him to you" and she did. Arrogant bitch! Like that's up to her! Fuck her to! Thankfully I love to read and I learned my way out of it with a little help from my now dead sister. Shit installed as a child can be powerful, especially when combined with hours of meditation/prayer and sometimes weeks of fasting. You "will" have visions and hallucinations that seem as real as any thing. I once watched Stephen the martyr be stoned to death in a "vision" after fasting and praying for week. Brainwashing+lack of food+exhaustion+deep meditation is an amazing drug!
Hepheastus420
Well-Known Member
Personally, I don't believe religious people are dumb. I also don't believe that they grew faith out of stupidity. They were just tricked by fear and rewards.
But that's just my opinion. And I believe it may change soon. I typed out a response that contradicted myself so I deleted it.. I proved myself wrong lol.. Here's my original post
Religious people are not dumb simply because they have faith in something that cannot be proven. They were just tricked into believing nonsense by their friends and family. Is a little kid stupid because he trusted his parents when they told him santa is real?
Yes, that kid is stupid lol. Has that kid ever seen magic played out? No. Then he shouldn't believe some fat dude pops into people's houses to deliver toys all around the world in one night. So I guess religious people should understand that their beliefs aren't the truth.