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TacoMac

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They pretty much had to change the story after Cohen got raided.
That's it on the button.

Trump and his team now know that Mueller knows exactly how Stormy got paid and where the money came from. Not only that, they also know that Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation - specifically because James would not tell Trump flat out that he was NOT a target of the investigation.

This is actually a defensive strategy and a good one.

They know that Mueller knows the truth now. So rather than wait for it to come out later in some sort of bombshell press scoop or be dropped on the heads of a jury that didn't know about it in open court, they go ahead and throw it all out there for all to see.

That way, if it ever does go to trial, it's old news. There's no longer any shock value to it.

It does, however, give Mueller yet another victory. First off, it's yet another nail in the coffin of Trump's credibility (not that there ever really was any to begin with). Secondly, if Cohen had been sticking to his guns about the payment and actually told authorities that same story under questioning, he is now guilty of obstruction and giving false statements.

So it gives them even more leverage than they already had over the one lawyer that can screw Trump over the most...not that they really needed it, but there it is.
 

see4

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That's it on the button.

Trump and his team now know that Mueller knows exactly how Stormy got paid and where the money came from. Not only that, they also know that Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation - specifically because James would not tell Trump flat out that he was NOT a target of the investigation.

This is actually a defensive strategy and a good one.

They know that Mueller knows the truth now. So rather than wait for it to come out later in some sort of bombshell press scoop or be dropped on the heads of a jury that didn't know about it in open court, they go ahead and throw it all out there for all to see.

That way, if it ever does go to trial, it's old news. There's no longer any shock value to it.

It does, however, give Mueller yet another victory. First off, it's yet another nail in the coffin of Trump's credibility (not that there ever really was any to begin with). Secondly, if Cohen had been sticking to his guns about the payment and actually told authorities that same story under questioning, he is now guilty of obstruction and giving false statements.

So it gives them even more leverage than they already had over the one lawyer that can screw Trump over the most...not that they really needed it, but there it is.
What Trump and his administration have done and continue to do is illegal. Talking about it as if it were a matter of public opinion is exactly what they want you to do. So when the Trump administration and virtually the entire Republican party decide to not follow the law and in doing so, break the law, they will justify it by hiding behind some made up public opinion.

This administration is going down in a blaze. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but it will happen.

And it will be glorious.
 

londonfog

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That's it on the button.

Trump and his team now know that Mueller knows exactly how Stormy got paid and where the money came from. Not only that, they also know that Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation - specifically because James would not tell Trump flat out that he was NOT a target of the investigation.

This is actually a defensive strategy and a good one.

They know that Mueller knows the truth now. So rather than wait for it to come out later in some sort of bombshell press scoop or be dropped on the heads of a jury that didn't know about it in open court, they go ahead and throw it all out there for all to see.

That way, if it ever does go to trial, it's old news. There's no longer any shock value to it.

It does, however, give Mueller yet another victory. First off, it's yet another nail in the coffin of Trump's credibility (not that there ever really was any to begin with). Secondly, if Cohen had been sticking to his guns about the payment and actually told authorities that same story under questioning, he is now guilty of obstruction and giving false statements.

So it gives them even more leverage than they already had over the one lawyer that can screw Trump over the most...not that they really needed it, but there it is.
Not at all. Just trying to cover up a lie and that is never a good strategy
 

UncleBuck

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april 5th - trump stands aboard air force one and says he had no idea about the stormy daniels payoff

april 9th - cohen's offices raided

may 2nd - giuliani tells sean hannity, who we have since found out was a secret client of cohen, that trump lied to the american people
 

UncleBuck

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It's not illegal to lie to the public.

It should be, but it isn't.
$130k to silence someone is an in-kind contribution above the legal limit. felony

they concealed the source of this contribution. felony.

they made false statements to the FEC and banks about it. felonies, both of them.

not to mention the obstruction of justice admission giuliani also made. major felony.

blatantly lying to the american people from aboard air force one is just trump's way of saying he does not respect you.
 

TacoMac

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$130k to silence someone is an in-kind contribution above the legal limit. felony

they concealed the source of this contribution. felony.
Not if campaign money was never used, which according to what they are saying now it was Trump's personal money.
 

UncleBuck

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Not if campaign money was never used, which according to what they are saying now it was Trump's personal money.
giuliani just said on fox and friends that the whole thing was campaign related. doesn't matter whose money was used. they say cohen used his money to make this campaign issue go away and trump repaid him. he said they "funneled" it through law firms.

this was an illegal in kind campaign contribution along with numerous other felony financial crimes
 

TacoMac

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The problem is you can't prove that.

For all we know, or that anybody can prove, Trump and Cohen paid the woman off to keep his wife from finding out.

You would have to have someone on tape saying, "If we don't pay her off, we can lose the election" in order for that to apply.
 

UncleBuck

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The problem is you can't prove that....You would have to have someone on tape saying, "If we don't pay her off, we can lose the election" in order for that to apply.
rudy giuliani literally went on fox and friends this morning and said that nearly verbatim.

“Imagine if that came out of October 15, 2016, in the middle of the last debate with Hillary Clinton…” he said. “Cohen made it go away. He did his job.” - rudy giuliani, 5/3/2018
 

TacoMac

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You need to post a link to that because I've not heard anything about it.

He was on Hannity on Fox last night and said it had nothing to do with the campaign at all, that it was a private matter.
 
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