NO! On Prop 19

tc1

tc1

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TokinPodPilot said:
I bet you do. Seems I have myself a fan or stalker of sorts. Neat. Again, I have been derogatory, which means showing a critical or disrespectful attitude, but none of that involves name-calling. I suppose I could sit here and debate the finer points of semantics and rhetoric, but that would most likely be an exercise in futility. But please continue to blather on about how evil I am... I haven't been vilified in a long while. :fire:
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Nice attempt to deflect the fact that I caught you in your own web of lives. You suggested vradd was stupid ... that's name calling.

No amount of pretend intellectual jibberish you spout will cover the fact that you were exposed as a liar and hypocrite.
 
TokinPodPilot

TokinPodPilot

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tc1 said:
Nice attempt to deflect the fact that I caught you in your own web of lives. You suggested vradd was stupid ... that's name calling.

No amount of pretend intellectual jibberish you spout will cover the fact that you were exposed as a liar and hypocrite.
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Sure, whatever makes you happy. Can you get back to the topic now?
 
tc1

tc1

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TokinPodPilot said:
Sure, whatever makes you happy. Can you get back to the topic now?
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Someone 2 pages ago personally asked you what specific parts of Prop 19 gives you the reasoning to personally vote no.
Answer him and perhaps I will respond tomorrow.
 
TokinPodPilot

TokinPodPilot

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In other words, you have nothing. Nice way to deflect for two pages. This thread is full of reasons why this bill is bad and why it's being opposed. Take your pick. None of them have been adequately refuted except by baseless supposition that contradicts legal and historical precedents.
 
tc1

tc1

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TokinPodPilot said:
In other words, you have nothing. Nice way to deflect for two pages. This thread is full of reasons why this bill is bad and why it's being opposed. Take your pick. None of them have been adequately refuted except by baseless supposition that contradicts legal and historical precedents.
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Jebus H Christmas ....

You tell me to get back on topic and you reply with another off topic comment.
You're really getting good at this hypocrite thing ....
 
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Junkiepr

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Do ppl of Cali realize that the whole world have set eyes on this, states other contries etc... me, I live in Puerto Rico, and in 2008 some ppl said "lets legalize cannibis in PR" but nothing happened like always, you should be proud that a lot of ppl in cali stood in front of the tyrant and said enough.
sorry for my english :-) hope prop 19 wins and my dear PR will copy cali on legalization.
 
Burger Boss

Burger Boss

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LsdgotAholdofMe said:
i want to smoke my dried plant flowers and not be deemed a criminal , If this bill helps me obtain that goal. I and others would have to vote yes imo
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You are speaking for a whole lot of CA folks. Being a "criminal" for 45 years, I will be very glad to vote YES on Nov. 2.
For now, l'll be happy with the "decriminalization", for openers. I can quibble about what size, shape, how much, etc. down the road.
Good luck & good grow.......BB
 
The Ruiner

The Ruiner

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"Quibble"

That's not belittling the situation at all... nice measured response. Geez, all these people with their "concerns"
 
Burger Boss

Burger Boss

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The Ruiner said:
"Quibble"

That's not belittling the situation at all... nice measured response. Geez, all these people with their "concerns"
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Sorry, you lost me at "not belittling the situation". Rereading your post over and over, I'm unable to get the meaning.....BB
 
tardis

tardis

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Humboldt14 said:
most of us up here in the mountains of Humboldt County Ca. are campagning Vote No!



Whats your opinion?
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Just like Halliburton would vote NO on ending war... or Goldman Sachs would vote No on making stealing from investors illegal... People who make higher profits when people suffer want as many of you to suffer as possible. And commercial growers are no exception, they WANT you to go to jail, they WANT your child to die at the hands of mexican drug smugglers, it make sthem happy and rich. So vote yes, your profits arnt' worth peoples lives.
 
pitbudz87

pitbudz87

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vote no on this absurd prop, it wuld put people who have been in the buis mom and pop growers in the mountains generations of familys that have grown and lived of the land and gave back to it took care of it. this would be the event horizin if it passes for mj cultivation, meaning the point in wich nothing can exist where it will be ripped molecule from molecule. vote no
 
MrStickyScissors

MrStickyScissors

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vote no. mark my words prop 19 wont pass. look at all the people that grow that are not for it. those are the people smart enough to see what it really is. along with all the people that hate on cannabis good luck with that prop passing. I cant wait tell november
 
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mikhail chalecki

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tardis said:
Just like Halliburton would vote NO on ending war... or Goldman Sachs would vote No on making stealing from investors illegal... People who make higher profits when people suffer want as many of you to suffer as possible. And commercial growers are no exception, they WANT you to go to jail, they WANT your child to die at the hands of mexican drug smugglers, it make sthem happy and rich. So vote yes, your profits arnt' worth peoples lives.
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well if theyre growin commercially in cali already that has nothing to do with the smugglers. the smugglers probably sell most their shit in the other 35+ without mmj laws because nobody likes to smoke that bs here. ive got a feeling this wont hurt them in the slightest.

either way vote YES.
 
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mikhail chalecki

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MrStickyScissors said:
vote no. mark my words prop 19 wont pass. look at all the people that grow that are not for it. those are the people smart enough to see what it really is. along with all the people that hate on cannabis good luck with that prop passing. I cant wait tell november
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no actually. most of the people i know who thought to vote no heard some bs and made decisions without even reading the proposition. i then turned them to real thing and showed them with their own eyes how theyre current limits are exempt. but pure legal proof isnt enough for some people... unless they honestly know what theyre talking about it makes me mad to hear them talk shit on it, the majority of growers are just scared of nothing.

the truth is, down the line, some fucked up things can happen in state supreme court and maybe some things can be removed, but it will have to be determined if its constitutional to do so and so on. basically its not gonna be easy, pretty much impossible because everyone is for helping the sick people. as 19 stand 6 plants and 8 oz on person aswell as the legislature of 215/sb420 are exempt from 19. section 2b-8 of 19 grants assured exemption. as for the taxes on personal cultivation, that is no way legal under 19, the only things subject to tax are the COMMERCIAL(key word) cultivation, trading, transportation (trucker weigh stations). now if that terrible scenario is enough to deter you from a yes. so be it. but i dont think that is even possible due to enormous backlash from the state, like what happened to prop 8
 
MrStickyScissors

MrStickyScissors

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mikhail chalecki said:
no actually. most of the people i know who thought to vote no heard some bs and made decisions without even reading the proposition. i then turned them to real thing and showed them with their own eyes how theyre current limits are exempt. but pure legal proof isnt enough for some people... unless they honestly know what theyre talking about it makes me mad to hear them talk shit on it, the majority of growers are just scared of nothing.

the truth is, down the line, some fucked up things can happen in state supreme court and maybe some things can be removed, but it will have to be determined if its constitutional to do so and so on. basically its not gonna be easy, pretty much impossible because everyone is for helping the sick people. as 19 stand 6 plants and 8 oz on person aswell as the legislature of 215/sb420 are exempt from 19. section 2b-8 of 19 grants assured exemption. as for the taxes on personal cultivation, that is no way legal under 19, the only things subject to tax are the COMMERCIAL(key word) cultivation, trading, transportation (trucker weigh stations). now if that terrible scenario is enough to deter you from a yes. so be it. but i dont think that is even possible due to enormous backlash from the state, like what happened to prop 8
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im not worried about any kind of tax. im more worried about sumone taking over the market and having unfair advantages.
 
Moldy

Moldy

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I like freedom! Vote yes on prop 19. Those mom and pop growers will do just fine. Anyway, I'm tired of seeing my cannabis brothers and sisters getting arrested. Don't be scared, all you people making a living off it will continue to do so for a long time. It will take years before the prices come down. Of course some lazy dealers and growers will go down first but you have to remember the rest of the country wants weed (bad) and it will take years before the demand is diminished.
 
veggiegardener

veggiegardener

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Moldy said:
I like freedom! Vote yes on prop 19. Those mom and pop growers will do just fine. Anyway, I'm tired of seeing my cannabis brothers and sisters getting arrested. Don't be scared, all you people making a living off it will continue to do so for a long time. It will take years before the prices come down. Of course some lazy dealers and growers will go down first but you have to remember the rest of the country wants weed (bad) and it will take years before the demand is diminished.
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Prop 19 will drive prices UP.

It reduces the area for most MMJ growers, radically. 92% in my case, and I sell NOTHING. If I can only grow in 25 square feet, that will leave a huge shortfall in our meds. If I had to pay a club for that, I would be paying about $40,000 a year.

Do you think the clubs will give me a break?

NO ON 19.

If you think MMJ caregivers are exempt, you haven't read enough.

Cultivation was NOT exempted because the authors consider us "competition".
 
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BobBanana

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Lucky yall...im stuck in OH where we haven't even legalized medical yet. HB 478 is stalled time and time again....In my opinion...it all costs us too much...we need to be allowed to develop a weed country lol...like a nudist camp only over a larger area haha
 
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