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Flatrate

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Question. Tomorrow is a Herc day, should I do that, or give them another feed and skip this Herc day? Just to try to build them up more?
 

bubba73

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Question. Tomorrow is a Herc day, should I do that, or give them another feed and skip this Herc day? Just to try to build them up more?
usually will depend on your slurry , but sense your fighting with low ppm do another feed then check your slurry before next water .... remember your #s will change a lot if soil is to dry or to wet , so you gotta be on top of that too .... it will skew your #s ....
 

Flatrate

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Hey guys! So this morning I elected to give them the same mix as yesterday, and going to bump up the Athenas tomorrow.

A picture I posted previously from 9/26.

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And this morning.

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Thanks again Nectar Apostles!
 

IrieRoots

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Hey guys! So this morning I elected to give them the same mix as yesterday, and going to bump up the Athenas tomorrow.

A picture I posted previously from 9/26.

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And this morning.

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Thanks again Nectar Apostles!
Perkin up!!........you can foliar that Athenas too, or pegasus, or Trigger would do the trick!!......I'm sure alot of it is the bright light but the over all lighter shade of green on the plants looks like a "green up" foliar or drench would really get them happy!! The little bump in N will really get them moving too.......once Herc is introduced and bumped up across the schedule, Athenas needs to bump up with it, the aminos keep calcium chelated and available for easier up take, just a quick tip!!
 

Flatrate

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Thanks for the tip Irie! Last night they were looking greener, and perking even more. With this mornings feed I did as you said and bumped the Athenas up another 5 ml, so from 10 ml to 15 ml.
 

Flatrate

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Loop, I wish the best of luck on your harvest, may your yield be huge, and your flower be mighty.

I agree Irie they have been on the lighter shade of green, but the do have a natural nice shade. The lights do make it look lighter, and I feel the quality of my photos are sub par.

On another note let me know what you guys think, I am planning on flipping them tomorrow. I've been growing them for a bit, and ready to learn the second half. I'll be happy with whatever I get. Its my second grow, and am using it as an experiment learning NFTG.

I was thinking of giving them tea day of the flip, and following up with ffhfft. The last couple feeds have been.

Medusa 15 ml
Gaia 10 ml
Athenas 15 ml
Demeters 10 ml
Herc 20 ml
Zeus 5 ml
SLF-100 5 ml

When and what adjustments should I make to incorporate Aphrodite's Extraction, and The Kraken? I was looking at the early flower mix of the Greek Regimen or a modified version of it?

As always thank you!
 

Mullalulla

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Loop, I wish the best of luck on your harvest, may your yield be huge, and your flower be mighty.

I agree Irie they have been on the lighter shade of green, but the do have a natural nice shade. The lights do make it look lighter, and I feel the quality of my photos are sub par.

On another note let me know what you guys think, I am planning on flipping them tomorrow. I've been growing them for a bit, and ready to learn the second half. I'll be happy with whatever I get. Its my second grow, and am using it as an experiment learning NFTG.

I was thinking of giving them tea day of the flip, and following up with ffhfft. The last couple feeds have been.

Medusa 15 ml
Gaia 10 ml
Athenas 15 ml
Demeters 10 ml
Herc 20 ml
Zeus 5 ml
SLF-100 5 ml

When and what adjustments should I make to incorporate Aphrodite's Extraction, and The Kraken? I was looking at the early flower mix of the Greek Regimen or a modified version of it?

As always thank you!

I use Aphrodite's Extraction From day of flip to the night before harvest. I use the standard 1/2 teaspoon per gallon for the first 2 weeks, then 1 teaspoon per gallon from there on out till the ripening flush (last 2 weeks) then I switch to 2 Tablespoons per gallon with every watering during the flush.

My final 2 week flush is

2 tablespoons per gallon of Demeters
2 tablespoons per gallon Herc
2 tablespoons per gallon Aphrodites.
 

IrieRoots

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Loop, I wish the best of luck on your harvest, may your yield be huge, and your flower be mighty.

I agree Irie they have been on the lighter shade of green, but the do have a natural nice shade. The lights do make it look lighter, and I feel the quality of my photos are sub par.

On another note let me know what you guys think, I am planning on flipping them tomorrow. I've been growing them for a bit, and ready to learn the second half. I'll be happy with whatever I get. Its my second grow, and am using it as an experiment learning NFTG.

I was thinking of giving them tea day of the flip, and following up with ffhfft. The last couple feeds have been.

Medusa 15 ml
Gaia 10 ml
Athenas 15 ml
Demeters 10 ml
Herc 20 ml
Zeus 5 ml
SLF-100 5 ml

When and what adjustments should I make to incorporate Aphrodite's Extraction, and The Kraken? I was looking at the early flower mix of the Greek Regimen or a modified version of it?

As always thank you!
you can start the Kraken now, just start at 5 ml and you can work it up weekly thru week 4 bloom. I get it up to 30 ml by week 4 and then cut it out. As for Athenas, you can bump to 30 ml no problem. And for Aphro, you can flip and use it all thru bloom with every feed, or just use it the day after tea days once a week to keep microbes stimulated, then hammer in late bloom. I keep feeding veg feeds 7 - 10 days after flip, and start ramping Kraken & herc to get the phos levels up....so week 3 is when I start more bloom specific feeds.
 

Flatrate

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you can start the Kraken now, just start at 5 ml and you can work it up weekly thru week 4 bloom. I get it up to 30 ml by week 4 and then cut it out. As for Athenas, you can bump to 30 ml no problem. And for Aphro, you can flip and use it all thru bloom with every feed, or just use it the day after tea days once a week to keep microbes stimulated, then hammer in late bloom. I keep feeding veg feeds 7 - 10 days after flip, and start ramping Kraken & herc to get the phos levels up....so week 3 is when I start more bloom specific feeds.

Thank you my good man, a lot of info for me in this post. I understand and will do, also I would like to see what you have to say about bloom specific feeds. As you said I will ask in 3 weeks.
 

IrieRoots

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Thank you my good man, a lot of info for me in this post. I understand and will do, also I would like to see what you have to say about bloom specific feeds. As you said I will ask in 3 weeks.
not to over complicate "bloom specific", I treat the initial flip to 12/12 as the transition stage and not necessarily "early bloom". So the first week of 12/12 is still vegetative growth focused, then as feeds ramp up the phos levels go up to assist flower sites but there is still a need for plenty of N to support the surge of growth. I foliar thru this transition too, and thats another animal but it really helps to initiate and set flower.....by way of BK or even just Poseidonzyme, any quality Kelp product is gonna assist flower set towards end of week 2 thru 3. Now its time to get "bloom specific" LOL, once the flowers are set, then we build. So from a SCHEDULE stand point, my first Early Bloom feed really doesnt start till week 3, but I ramp it up fast so by week 4 & 5 are mid bloom, and 6 & 7 are late bloom/ripening..... in a nutshell!!
 

bubba73

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gotta tweak here and there ..... you can start kraken as early as early veg up to late flower .AE you can start using in early veg ....and use AE with ripening ....
 
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Imaginathan

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Quick question. This is only my second grow with Nectar solely, and I’ve noticed a solid pro mix versus an amended soil tends to make the pH fluctuate, obviously because of the acidity of the peat. The first go around I used an amended soil and started feeding after the first month, but this grow I’ve had either a finicky strain or issues with the pH fluctuating, even though I have amended the soil with a little bit of lime and a bit of rock dust, as well as earthworm castings.

What do you boys like to in best with with this nutrient line? Still getting great results and I’m sure it could also be the strain, just wondering what the general consensus is. Thanks!
 

IrieRoots

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gotta tweak here and there ..... you can start kraken as early as early veg up to late flower .AE you can start using in early veg ....and use AE with ripening ....
Damn skippy, I'm always TWEAKIN!! I use Kraken in my very first bottle feed at seedling stage and run it to the end of week 4 bloom then cut it out, and use Tritons in its place till ripening!! The Kraken just becomes a gentle P source and mild amino after the plants have switched over to full flower, their chitin response receptors are shut down so I don't like to use past week 4.
 

bubba73

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Damn skippy, I'm always TWEAKIN!! I use Kraken in my very first bottle feed at seedling stage and run it to the end of week 4 bloom then cut it out, and use Tritons in its place till ripening!! The Kraken just becomes a gentle P source and mild amino after the plants have switched over to full flower, their chitin response receptors are shut down so I don't like to use past week 4.
ill use kraken till late flower , never used it for seedlings ... medusa , gaia , demeters , herc , zues for clone and seedlings ..... plug and seed soak will do zeus , dr root , slf , plug soak will be in Bigfoot and sprinkle dr root in plug hole and drop the seed .....
 

IrieRoots

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Quick question. This is only my second grow with Nectar solely, and I’ve noticed a solid pro mix versus an amended soil tends to make the pH fluctuate, obviously because of the acidity of the peat. The first go around I used an amended soil and started feeding after the first month, but this grow I’ve had either a finicky strain or issues with the pH fluctuating, even though I have amended the soil with a little bit of lime and a bit of rock dust, as well as earthworm castings.

What do you boys like to in best with with this nutrient line? Still getting great results and I’m sure it could also be the strain, just wondering what the general consensus is. Thanks!
Too many great things to list when it comes to Nectar!! I love that there is wrench for every nut, its a well equiped tool box!!

Oyster shell may be a better option to buffer the promix, did you use dolomite lime? Or just limestone?
If you give us some more details, we will have a better opportunity to help.....the full rundown: light, pot size, environmentals, water source, feed regiment, teas, slurry info, etc
 

Imaginathan

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Too many great things to list when it comes to Nectar!! I love that there is wrench for every nut, its a well equiped tool box!!

Oyster shell may be a better option to buffer the promix, did you use dolomite lime? Or just limestone?
If you give us some more details, we will have a better opportunity to help.....the full rundown: light, pot size, environmentals, water source, feed regiment, teas, slurry info, etc
Dolomitic, granular. I’m going to start using more oyster so the soil doesn’t tighten up from the dolo. I don’t want to dote on my problems, I’ll make it ok enough but here it is my dude.

Gorilla Zkittlez, Barneys Farm
F35 (Start of week 6, I count from pistils)
1000w hps in a 4x4
One plant in fabric 7 gallon, one in solid 7 gallon
Daytime temp 72/77, Night 68
12/12
On late flower feeding schedule, Advanced

Slurries have been all over the map. Talked to Scott O and he advised me to feed a certain way for a time period and to keep a higher ph of 6.4, to compensate for the pro-mix. After I added the lime, it stabilized somewhat but the last slurry came back.
- Fabric pot: 6.9 ph, 395ppm
- Solid Pot: 7.5 ph, 660 ppm

So this feed tonight I did a Herc flush for the solid pot plant @ 5 TBL/gallon, along with 1 tsp/gal SLF-100, 2 TBL homemade lactobacillus, and .9 ml/gal of Mammoth P. I fed her 1.5 gallons to a ph of 6.4.

The fabric pot tonight I fed a normal late flower feed as per the higher end of the chart, along with my usual Green Planet supplements: Liquid W-8 (molasses), Terpinator and Massive (bloom boost). Adjusted feed to 6.4.

To be honest they aren’t doing too poorly, I don’t want to give that impression. I’m just a bit of a perfectionist and after running my last crop with Nectar, the results from using only a pro-mix (my idea to keep a more Nectar pure grow), have fallen flat. Also could still be the strain, as this is my first run with it. Thank you much for any insight my dudes!
 

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