NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

bubba73 said:

just a little update .... enjoy ....had to deal with 1 that had a slight (N) tox .... then I remember what I did.... added one shot in veg to pump up the ppms and 3/4 thru flower she showing it ..oppps ..... one in the pic shows some fox tailing been pushing back the harvest but the nugs are hard as a rock.... 3rd is the auto ..50/50 cloudy clear , has ways to go .... did a feed yesterday and had to pull it out and break up the soil , it got bone gum so bad when I watered the water came out the side of fabric pot..... im hitting them pretty hard .... I also have a tomato plant thats over 6' tall and must have 20 tomatoes on her , she getting hit hard with herc , ACCT this is biweekly between food and ACCT so every week they get something besides just plain water... but im rethinking of doing nectar feed every other day or every 3 days... depends on water .... also have 4 clones and 2 others in mid flower....

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Lookin good man!! Why no pic of the maters? Haha. I wanna see that too.

I was definitely doing the slurries wrong!! I did them all tonight before I fed them. There p.h. Is higher then expected. 6.6-6.8. Ppm very low like 150 they are hungry. I fed them 550ppm at 6.2 ph cant wait to see what they took in. I got a couple pics of them a hour after the feed and they perked right up. I found a critter idk if you guys can tell if it’s beneficial or give em the boot. Also i have this plant with a side arm mutation pretty cool looking.

loop718 said:

I was definitely doing the slurries wrong!! I did them all tonight before I fed them. There p.h. Is higher then expected. 6.6-6.8. Ppm very low like 150 they are hungry. I fed them 550ppm at 6.2 ph cant wait to see what they took in. I got a couple pics of them a hour after the feed and they perked right up. I found a critter idk if you guys can tell if it’s beneficial or give em the boot. Also i have this plant with a side arm mutation pretty cool looking.

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That critter is nothing to worry about, may even be a preditor. The 6.6-6.8 ph is MONEY!! You can bump feeds up to 6.3-6.4 and be right in the wheelhouse!! As the media dries and plant eats the ph Should rise up like this in a functioning #4 soil system. Yes they are hungry for sure, keep at the feeds and if you want, hit them with a foliar that will green them up!! 5 ml Pegasus , 5 ml Ful-power ph to 6.2, if the ppms are under 350 you can throw in some Poseidon to get some of the many benefits of kelp foliars!! But can always do the kelp foliar on another day, with perhaps Kraken instead of Pegasus. Just keep it simple and try to work in a foliar twice a week if you want to try them, Hygeia is good too, any yucca or aloe to act as a wetting agent.......spray right when they wake up, by the end of the day you will notice a nice Kelly green/emerald green leaf color come on from the pegasus!! And sometimes those mutations produce extra dank phenos, some don't....LOL.....just let it play out!!

Looking good loop.

BunkerKing said:

Looking good loop.

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Thanks brotha!!

IrieRoots said:

That critter is nothing to worry about, may even be a preditor. The 6.6-6.8 ph is MONEY!! You can bump feeds up to 6.3-6.4 and be right in the wheelhouse!! As the media dries and plant eats the ph Should rise up like this in a functioning #4 soil system. Yes they are hungry for sure, keep at the feeds and if you want, hit them with a foliar that will green them up!! 5 ml Pegasus , 5 ml Ful-power ph to 6.2, if the ppms are under 350 you can throw in some Poseidon to get some of the many benefits of kelp foliars!! But can always do the kelp foliar on another day, with perhaps Kraken instead of Pegasus. Just keep it simple and try to work in a foliar twice a week if you want to try them, Hygeia is good too, any yucca or aloe to act as a wetting agent.......spray right when they wake up, by the end of the day you will notice a nice Kelly green/emerald green leaf color come on from the pegasus!! And sometimes those mutations produce extra dank phenos, some don't....LOL.....just let it play out!!

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Yep il hit em with a foliar and see what they do. I love this line so much shit to learn and experience. Im going to hold off on the kraken until i get some clones. Hoping to find some dank to make a mother out of.

I was just watching tims video on recycling soil. Whats your guys preferred bokashi? Do you guys use the carbon dust that he uses? Im definitely going to be recycling seeing how i have to travel 6 hour round trip for my #4 soil worth it tho haha.

loop718 said:

I was just watching tims video on recycling soil. Whats your guys preferred bokashi? Do you guys use the carbon dust that he uses? Im definitely going to be recycling seeing how i have to travel 6 hour round trip for my #4 soil worth it tho haha.

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Definitely recycle!! It only gets better.....Tims mix runs a little hot, really needs 60-90 days. With some ONE SHOT, Bokashi and some biochar you can be ready in 40-50 days. Check out homegrown bokashi, the golden blend.

loop718 said:

Yep il hit em with a foliar and see what they do. I love this line so much shit to learn and experience. Im going to hold off on the kraken until i get some clones. Hoping to find some dank to make a mother out of.

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Alternating Kraken into foliars makes strong pest and pathogen resistant plants!!

here the pic of the tomato plant 6' tall .. also growing peppers and cucumber ..... amended soil there a couple ways to do it....can do a 70/30 .. 70 is old soil and 30 is new soil mixed.... another is to do it the way Tim does , experiment with one shot , calls for 1 cup per 5 gallon but if you want you can do a 1/2 cup or 1/4 cup depends on strength , or if you want a super soil calls for 3-5 cups per 5 gallon of soil . . do not do more then 5 gallons of soil at a time .. another thing , slurry your amended soil before you use it to get an idea on what to do , also take that slurry # divide that by 2 will get you close to the real slurry ppm .. (one shot can cause squew in #s ) .. if you are still have an high ppm # you can start with a tea or a herc feed till the #s are in range , just make sure your ph is in range 6.2-6.8 or 7.1 max ... you do not want it where you have a ph below 6 and needs fixed quick , higher ph is more forgiving and easier to get down then trying to get the ph back up ....

bubba73 said:

here the pic of the tomato plant 6' tall .. also growing peppers and cucumber ..... amended soil there a couple ways to do it....can do a 70/30 .. 70 is old soil and 30 is new soil mixed.... another is to do it the way Tim does , experiment with one shot , calls for 1 cup per 5 gallon but if you want you can do a 1/2 cup or 1/4 cup depends on strength , or if you want a super soil calls for 3-5 cups per 5 gallon of soil . . do not do more then 5 gallons of soil at a time .. another thing , slurry your amended soil before you use it to get an idea on what to do , also take that slurry # divide that by 2 will get you close to the real slurry ppm .. (one shot can cause squew in #s ) .. if you are still have an high ppm # you can start with a tea or a herc feed till the #s are in range , just make sure your ph is in range 6.2-6.8 or 7.1 max ... you do not want it where you have a ph below 6 and needs fixed quick , higher ph is more forgiving and easier to get down then trying to get the ph back up ....

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Look at that beast!!! That looks killer bubba! Ya im def going to be recycling i heard the soil needs longer times to release all the other goodies in it plus it will save me a 6 hour trip for more soil.

loop718 said:

Look at that beast!!! That looks killer bubba! Ya im def going to be recycling i heard the soil needs longer times to release all the other goodies in it plus it will save me a 6 hour trip for more soil.

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thanks !!! if using one shot in the mix the 90 days max seems right , really 60 days can start using it ...then in veg its still breaking down and plant is up taking and by that time your pervious run will start to break down to and be more of a benefit to plants .... so you should start using it as soon as the cooking ramps down not when its over and you gotta ramp it back up ...... I did a 36 hr run on ACCT PH AS FOLLOWS .... molasses will drop ph .... after 24hrs ph 5.1 , 11pm ph 5.5 , 10am ph 6.8 34-36 hr mark .... use 6-8 cups of tea and dilute in a 5 gallon bubbling bucket that was bubbling for 2 hrs before I mix ... ph the water down to 6.8 which made the ph rise to a 7.4 ... next 5 gallons the same but ph it to a 6.5 then added 10 cups of tea , ph was 6.8 , good to go !!!!!! ... 7.4 is not bad but at the high end ph ... didn't take any ppm reading cause im building microbe heard ... my recipe was (EWC , BU Blend , bokashi ) ...
Now my outside plants get one shot , water food 1x weekly and tea 1x weeky , I also top dress with and mix in gro-koashi , crustacean meal .... the meal has a lot of calcium ....

Hmmm. Ok ill bite. Outside of building stronger cell walls with Kraken, and more P. Why do you two love it so much?

BunkerKing said:

Hmmm. Ok ill bite. Outside of building stronger cell walls with Kraken, and more P. Why do you two love it so much?

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The chitosan triggers "SAR" in the plant, Systemic aquired response, of course the Calcium , theres egg white cistiens used to build the strong cell walls, fungi love it, pests hate it, unique sea creature aminos. I use a little crab shell when I recycle soil, I love the stuff!! Helps keep soil ph from crashing due to the slow release calcium, the soil amendment has a little magnesium too but I don't know if the KRAKEN does, and the chitosan I believe is a mandatory part of the plants evolution and whatever we can do to recreate nature indoors only benefits the genetic potential!!

foliar spray kraken and bk alter it , helps to get more of that good oil production ...

bubba73 said:

foliar spray kraken and bk alter it , helps to get more of that good oil production ...

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Should i wait to use kraken until after i take my clones?

loop718 said:

Should i wait to use kraken until after i take my clones?

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YES !!!!! ...

IrieRoots said:

The chitosan triggers "SAR" in the plant, Systemic aquired response, of course the Calcium , theres egg white cistiens used to build the strong cell walls, fungi love it, pests hate it, unique sea creature aminos. I use a little crab shell when I recycle soil, I love the stuff!! Helps keep soil ph from crashing due to the slow release calcium, the soil amendment has a little magnesium too but I don't know if the KRAKEN does, and the chitosan I believe is a mandatory part of the plants evolution and whatever we can do to recreate nature indoors only benefits the genetic potential!!

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sounds like its best for outdoor plants, or areas with pest issues. Dont see a real need for my indoor garden, ty though for the info.

I am considering grabbing a bottle of aphrodite's extraction. Shall see.

BunkerKing said:

sounds like its best for outdoor plants, or areas with pest issues. Dont see a real need for my indoor garden, ty though for the info.

I am considering grabbing a bottle of aphrodite's extraction. Shall see.

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good for indoor when growing big heavy flowers...some times thats not enough....

When i get to that point

K.I.S.S right?

Though I agree with you all. Its just hard to justify spending more atm.

Not until i can really see the benefits of those extra additives.
Not until i master the current nutes im using.
Not until i get at least one harvest in and recoup some investment in the grow.


The grass isnt always greener on the otherside i say. But i am loving this line. Plants are too.