NFTG. Nectar For The Gods

IrieRoots said:

Can you post a pic? Plus a rundown of your environment....light, pot size, soil type, temp/humidity, recent slurry, recent feed info?
Your kind of off balance with this schedule, just wondering why you wouldn't use the reccommended feed charts and just bump up bottles as the plant can handle it. Without retyping your schedule, it's way too much zues, not enough Herc in relation to BK, too light on Aminos, need to keep Demeters in longer, and kinda heavy on the Gaia. Are you incorporating TEAs or enzymes? You can definitely bring in a nice crop with the bottles you have, I would definitely add Aphrodites when you can, and when the mega morph runs out replace it with kraken!! Do you have Medusa and Athenas?

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Hey Irie, sure.

5 Gallon Fabric smart pot.
250W HPS
4x4 tent
Temps mid/high 70s
Humidity: low 50s
soil was in the 6.3-6.4 PH range last time i checked ( few weeks ago )
Soil type: FF Happy Frog (ive switched to coco for the rest of the garden, but for this one)


6 weeks in Veg
Been running the normal feed seclude up till now. We are in week 4 of flower. So we are asking before its too late. hehe.


The problem ive been facing with the PP is it being really sensitive to N. This late into growth, any extra N was causing the leaf tip clawing.

Heavy on the gaia due to not running MM, and AA. Its been responding well and happy. I could likely add AA back in due to it only being a 0.5

Oh really? Wasnt having any issues with BK:Herc ratio, but i can use more and get more into the plant it sounds like?

6:1 right? 6 tbs of herc per gallon? Feels insanely high. Gaia has alot of bonemeal and cal in it though. amino acids from chicken livers. (but you all know it better, its why im asking - just letting you know my thoughts )


I'll keep running Demeter for longer then.

Yes i am using SLF-100 and microbe life vegetable and fruit yield enhancer for tea day.

Photo is within a few days old. Ty again for your thoughts/feedback.

BunkerKing said:

Hey Irie, sure.

5 Gallon Fabric smart pot.
250W HPS
4x4 tent
Temps mid/high 70s
Humidity: low 50s
soil was in the 6.3-6.4 PH range last time i checked ( few weeks ago )
Soil type: FF Happy Frog (ive switched to coco for the rest of the garden, but for this one)


6 weeks in Veg
Been running the normal feed seclude up till now. We are in week 4 of flower. So we are asking before its too late. hehe.


The problem ive been facing with the PP is it being really sensitive to N. This late into growth, any extra N was causing the leaf tip clawing.

Heavy on the gaia due to not running MM, and AA. Its been responding well and happy. I could likely add AA back in due to it only being a 0.5

Oh really? Wasnt having any issues with BK:Herc ratio, but i can use more and get more into the plant it sounds like?

6:1 right? 6 tbs of herc per gallon? Feels insanely high. Gaia has alot of bonemeal and cal in it though. amino acids from chicken livers. (but you all know it better, its why im asking - just letting you know my thoughts )


I'll keep running Demeter for longer then.

Yes i am using SLF-100 and microbe life vegetable and fruit yield enhancer for tea day.

Photo is within a few days old. Ty again for your thoughts/feedback.

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That tip curl is from the BK and not enough Herc!! Its extremely hard to get N tox with Nectar, that is a calcium deficiency sign. The 6:1 is just a ratio, so to your 2 Tbs of HERC (30 ml), the BK should only be at 5 ml. The Demeters enhances flavor and is another form of calcium plus the magnesium it chelates, The Zues only needs to be at 5 ml tops, more does not help, its very strong and hard to flush out in the end. Your correct in cutting the nitrogen load in mid flower, especially with strains that stay green. The Tritons should be fine and the little bit of feather meal in Gaia. And with the gaia, it doesn't have the power to keep BK satisfied, Herc is the only thing to really balance out the BK, but other forms of calcium should be used alongside like Demeters, aphrodites, kraken, Triton, persephones, Athenas, and Gaia/Medusa but these are considered base nutrients with much easier availability.

loop718 said:

Ok so slurry question. I read its a 1:1 ratio so i was weight a oz of soil and a oz of water and mixing its a pretty dry slurry. I watched ogc fam show the other day they just used a shot glass of soil and a shot glass of water and had much soupier slurry!! Whats the right consistency? Left pic is the shot glass ratio, right pic is oz to oz ratio. I have been doing the oz to oz slurrie hope i havent been getting wrong numbers this whole time.

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Forget about equal weight oz's, we want equal volume oz's. A shot glass is an oz......I use a Tbs measuring spoon and scoop out 2 level scoops of soil to test, then fill the same spoon with my water source of 2 level Tbs. The consistency is in the name, "slurry", sometimes its a little muddy and thick and sometimes more watery. I try to get it to a similar consistency from test to test to be somewhat more accurate, whether I need to add a few drops more of water or even a pinch more soil.....Once you do enough of them, you get a feel for it.

Yah i should get a new PPM meter. Ty Irie. I will readjust the feeding seclude, i trust your input.

BunkerKing said:

@bubba73 ;

Can i get your thoughts on this?

Flowering (per gallon in soil):

Week 1-3

Gaia - 40ml
DD - 10ml
Mega M. - 40ml
Herc - 2tbs
Zeus - 20ml
BK - 1tbs


Week 4-6

Gaia - 40ml
TT - 1-2 tbs
Herc - 2 tbs
Bk - 1 tbs
Zeus - 20ml


Week flush 7-8

Herc - 1tbs
TT - 1tbs
Zeus - 10ml

For a 8 week strain of course. (purple punch)
Already needing a few replacement bottles. Wasnt planning on getting aphrodite’s extraction this grow.

Anything you would change?

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week 1-3
MM 10ml (decrease to 5ml in week 2 then stop in week 3)
GM 10ml (increase to 15ml in week 3)
Athenias 30ml (decrease to 15ml in week 2 then stop in week 3)
DD 20ml
Mega 10ml (increase to 15ml week 3)
Kraken 10ml (increase to 15 ml week 2)
TT 15ml (increase to 20 ml week 2, 25ml week 3)
poseidozime 10 ml week 1-2 then every other feed there on out till flush
Hygea 15 ml week 1 &2 then 30 ml there on out
AE 10ml week then 15 on out
pegasus 5-10ml depends on the strain
persephone 15 ml
HH 30 ml
Zeus 10ml
BK 5ml starting week 3 only

week 4-6
GM 15ml
DD 20ml
Mega 15ml
Kraken 15 ml
TT 30 ml week 4, 35 ml week 5, 40ml week 6
Poseidozime 10 ml every other feed
Hygea 30 ml
AE 15 ml
Pegasus 5 -10 ml depends on the strain (if nitrogen sensitive don't give at all)
Persephone 15 ml
HH 90ml
Zeus 10ml
BK 5ml week 4, 10-15 ml week 5&6

week 7-8(9)
GM 10 ml
DD 10ml
Mega 15ml
Kraken 10ml
TT 40ml
Poseidozime 5ml once a week
Hygea 30ml
AE 20ml
Pegasus stop if using
Persephone 20ml
HH 60ml
Zeus 5ml
BK 10ml

Flush
week 1
TT 30ml
AE 30 ml
HH 30ml

week 2 (or more if you flush longer)
TT 30ml
AE 15 ml
HH 30ml

Keep in mind this varies per plant and per strain! It is a guideline that I have found works for me but will not work for everyone and every strain.

as far as teas .. look into cultured , maxi microbe , fish sh!t ,brew your own .... Bigfoot foot for your mycroriza ... but there you have my modified feed..... use it or dont..lol...

ah - I was gonna look at my chart but than i got high. @IrieRoots


flowering week 1-4

25-30ml Herc
10ml DD
20ml Mega M
20ml Gaia
5-10ml Zeus
10ml BK


flowering week 4+

25-30ml Herc
20ml TT
10ml Mega M
20ml Gaia
5-10ml Zeus
10ml BK


Thats what im currently using, and why my numbers were so off. Was going off the top of my head and was wrong. I will make adjustments for week 4-6 though.

aka; Keep using DD and some AA. <3

and bump up HH/TT. Ty @bubba73

IrieRoots said:

Forget about equal weight oz's, we want equal volume oz's. A shot glass is an oz......I use a Tbs measuring spoon and scoop out 2 level scoops of soil to test, then fill the same spoon with my water source of 2 level Tbs. The consistency is in the name, "slurry", sometimes its a little muddy and thick and sometimes more watery. I try to get it to a similar consistency from test to test to be somewhat more accurate, whether I need to add a few drops more of water or even a pinch more soil.....Once you do enough of them, you get a feel for it.

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Lol messaged scott he said the same exact thing. I been doing it wrong.

Yo so the kids are ready for another feeding. They ate every piece of food I gave them and then some lol. Their arms were reaching for the sky this morning tonight there droopy and dry must be ready for more. I fed them half strength early veg feed at 350ppm 6.3ph. They slurried tonight and there at 170ppm 6.4-6.6 ph. A couple have some funky stuff going on id imagine because there starving. Whats your guys thoughts on 2nd feed? Should I feed the main 4 at full strength and keep the others at half strength and shoot for 450ppms this time then see what they do?

loop718 said:

Yo so the kids are ready for another feeding. They ate every piece of food I gave them and then some lol. Their arms were reaching for the sky this morning tonight there droopy and dry must be ready for more. I fed them half strength early veg feed at 350ppm 6.3ph. They slurried tonight and there at 170ppm 6.4-6.6 ph. A couple have some funky stuff going on id imagine because there starving. Whats your guys thoughts on 2nd feed? Should I feed the main 4 at full strength and keep the others at half strength and shoot for 450ppms this time then see what they do?

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That's a sound plan!! Better to be hungry now than stuffed and not eating!!
Are they all the same strain? Autos or photos? I'm sure you have posted it, but I don't remember....ha

Do you foliar feed ever? You could keep your feed the same and supplement some nutrition thru the leaves. Its good to get biology on the leaves As well to protect the plant....photoplus or em1 create an armor on the leaf surface, and a boost of Co2.

loop718 said:

Yo so the kids are ready for another feeding. They ate every piece of food I gave them and then some lol. Their arms were reaching for the sky this morning tonight there droopy and dry must be ready for more. I fed them half strength early veg feed at 350ppm 6.3ph. They slurried tonight and there at 170ppm 6.4-6.6 ph. A couple have some funky stuff going on id imagine because there starving. Whats your guys thoughts on 2nd feed? Should I feed the main 4 at full strength and keep the others at half strength and shoot for 450ppms this time then see what they do?

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this is where you gotta watch your plants and adjust according , slurry at 170 then give full strength ... and try not to let the soil fully dry out , start kill microbes .... I had to take a plant last night from a 5 gal fabric pot and transplant it to a 7 gal fabric pot .....she 1 -1/2 month old , gonna top her , LST . let her go another month then flower a monster ....
here a lesson a 5 gallon fabric pot has a veg window for a month depends on the person , after that month of veg its time to look into a bigger pot... maybe I should went with a 10 gallon ...

bubba73 said:

this is where you gotta watch your plants and adjust according , slurry at 170 then give full strength ... and try not to let the soil fully dry out , start kill microbes .... I had to take a plant last night from a 5 gal fabric pot and transplant it to a 7 gal fabric pot .....she 1 -1/2 month old , gonna top her , LST . let her go another month then flower a monster ....
here a lesson a 5 gallon fabric pot has a veg window for a month depends on the person , after that month of veg its time to look into a bigger pot... maybe I should went with a 10 gallon ...

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I ran into a similar predicament.....but went 3 gallon to 5 gals and right away went, damn...prolly shoulda gone to 7 gal, but still did fine!! I do top every branch, put a tomato cage In and tie all the branches down.....I literally just finish doing this. I'm gonna flip earlier than 30 days though, as soon as all the new tops turn up and gain some vigor I'm gonna start BK foliar then flip!! BUSHMASTER!! Can't wait to see what your 7 gals do under your 630W after they bush out!!

IrieRoots said:

That's a sound plan!! Better to be hungry now than stuffed and not eating!!
Are they all the same strain? Autos or photos? I'm sure you have posted it, but I don't remember....ha

Do you foliar feed ever? You could keep your feed the same and supplement some nutrition thru the leaves. Its good to get biology on the leaves As well to protect the plant....photoplus or em1 create an armor on the leaf surface, and a boost of Co2.

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I have NYC chem from top dawg and pbb from thug pug. There all regular seeds so i plan on loosing at least half of these. I haven't foliar fed anything yet, thats new to me. Whats a good recipe? And when do you foliar? I plan on feeding them today. When should i add the other stuff i have like slf-100 and full power? I read slf is good for your tea days. Full power is good in foliar? Thanks bros.

bubba73 said:

this is where you gotta watch your plants and adjust according , slurry at 170 then give full strength ... and try not to let the soil fully dry out , start kill microbes .... I had to take a plant last night from a 5 gal fabric pot and transplant it to a 7 gal fabric pot .....she 1 -1/2 month old , gonna top her , LST . let her go another month then flower a monster ....
here a lesson a 5 gallon fabric pot has a veg window for a month depends on the person , after that month of veg its time to look into a bigger pot... maybe I should went with a 10 gallon ...

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I have them in regular 3 gallon pots. I plan on swapping to 7gallon fabric a week or 2 before the flip. Once i find out whats staying and leaving.

loop718 said:

I have them in regular 3 gallon pots. I plan on swapping to 7gallon fabric a week or 2 before the flip. Once i find out whats staying and leaving.

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I remember now, don't worry about foliar if unfamiliar. You could spray your plants down with 5 ml of Ful-power to a quart of water ph'd 6.2 the day after your tea days first thing as lights come on!! Its super simple and too many benefits to list!! You can start putting SLF in all your feeds and if you use it for a tea day just use more, 15-30 ml with one of the bible tea recipes. Now, you just want to bump up your feeds and keep watching the plant and learning what nectar is doing. Are you planning on foliar BK later in veg?

IrieRoots said:

I remember now, don't worry about foliar if unfamiliar. You could spray your plants down with 5 ml of Ful-power to a quart of water ph'd 6.2 the day after your tea days first thing as lights come on!! Its super simple and too many benefits to list!! You can start putting SLF in all your feeds and if you use it for a tea day just use more, 15-30 ml with one of the bible tea recipes. Now, you just want to bump up your feeds and keep watching the plant and learning what nectar is doing. Are you planning on foliar BK later in veg?

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Yea deff!! I have 2.5 gallons of the stuff ha.

loop718 said:

Yea deff!! I have 2.5 gallons of the stuff ha.

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Im very interested in foliar also i have kraken and pegasus, poisidenzime ive heard there all great foliars.

loop718 said:

Im very interested in foliar also i have kraken and pegasus, poisidenzime ive heard there all great foliars.

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All very good foliars!!

IrieRoots said:

All very good foliars!!

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Just be careful using some of the recipes in the bible, they are all very hot....I try not to exceed 350 ppm with a foliar feed. And always use a little fulpower and always add photo or EM1.

just a little update .... enjoy ....had to deal with 1 that had a slight (N) tox .... then I remember what I did.... added one shot in veg to pump up the ppms and 3/4 thru flower she showing it ..oppps ..... one in the pic shows some fox tailing been pushing back the harvest but the nugs are hard as a rock.... 3rd is the auto ..50/50 cloudy clear , has ways to go .... did a feed yesterday and had to pull it out and break up the soil , it got bone gum so bad when I watered the water came out the side of fabric pot..... im hitting them pretty hard .... I also have a tomato plant thats over 6' tall and must have 20 tomatoes on her , she getting hit hard with herc , ACCT this is biweekly between food and ACCT so every week they get something besides just plain water... but im rethinking of doing nectar feed every other day or every 3 days... depends on water .... also have 4 clones and 2 others in mid flower....