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BassheadGrowsWeed

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You are watering to much .. I am on a water every day schedule, I water 3/4 of a gallon one day .. and 1 gallon the following day 3/4 the next 1 the following and so forth .. your plant is 1/4 the size my big ones are ... I think you are drowning your roots dude. Especially with the problems you are showing .. they are probably not uptaking much at all .. best bet if the plant is still holding on .. is to just herc flush it for a bit ..

wait did you bk ? any kush genetics in your plant ? Did you have that 6 to 1 ratio of herc to bk ? that might have caused it to happen that quickly.
It will be 3 days since my tea tonight and I’m going to check moisture levels when lights come on, I had been using Bk for I think 4 feeds before any of this with the 6:1 ratio but the last two things she’s gotten have been just herc/oly on Friday (1.5 gallons too much I know) and 1 gallon of herc/oly/SLF/microbe tea on Sunday . She’s going to get just herc/oly on the next feed at a half gallon. I’ve cut most of the super super burnt and fucked up light blocking growth and she doesn’t seem to be declining as rapidly/possibly not declining at all anymore. I also plan to cultivate my root zone before feeding again with a bamboo skewer per advice from hotrod Harley on a different thread where we’re discussing the issue.

No kush in the genetics its mandarin sunset from ethos genetics via clone
 

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BassheadGrowsWeed

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More yellow....waited 3 days and tested for moisture and she was pretty damn dry, just fed 1/2 gal of herc/oly up at 6.4. Cultivated the soil with a bamboo skewer prior to feeding. Slurry numbers I took before feeding were 6.42 and 349ppm. I’m at a loss as to why she’s still getting worse.

Should I try just phd water next time she needs some? Maybe there’s just entirely too many nutrients in there already?
 

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Flatrate

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Whats going on everyone? I am making progress, at least I think I am. Here is what I've been giving them over the last few days.

09/06
Medusa 5ml
Gaia 5ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 580
Herc 5ml SLF-100 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly Up
09/08
Medusa 10ml
Gaia 10ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 870
Herc 5ml SLF-100 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly Up
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Today 09/11 I repotted them into final homes. The amount of roots on the plants was pretty impressive. Then I feed them as follows.

Medusa 10ml
Gaia 10ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 930
Demeters 5ml I forgot SLF-100
Herc 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly up

I elected to go ahead and give them SLF with every feed, seems like that is the best choice. When should I do a tea day?
 

bubba73

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More yellow....waited 3 days and tested for moisture and she was pretty damn dry, just fed 1/2 gal of herc/oly up at 6.4. Cultivated the soil with a bamboo skewer prior to feeding. Slurry numbers I took before feeding were 6.42 and 349ppm. I’m at a loss as to why she’s still getting worse.

Should I try just phd water next time she needs some? Maybe there’s just entirely too many nutrients in there already?
you just feed herc/oly ? was this a herc day ? or a feed day ?
 

bubba73

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Whats going on everyone? I am making progress, at least I think I am. Here is what I've been giving them over the last few days.

09/06
Medusa 5ml
Gaia 5ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 580
Herc 5ml SLF-100 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly Up
09/08
Medusa 10ml
Gaia 10ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 870
Herc 5ml SLF-100 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly Up
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Today 09/11 I repotted them into final homes. The amount of roots on the plants was pretty impressive. Then I feed them as follows.

Medusa 10ml
Gaia 10ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 930
Demeters 5ml I forgot SLF-100
Herc 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly up

I elected to go ahead and give them SLF with every feed, seems like that is the best choice. When should I do a tea day?
should be following the feed feed herc , feed feed tea ... the idea is when you transplant you should be sprinkle either dr root or Bigfoot in the hole then water in either Bigfoot concentrate or cultured veg tea then start with the feed feed herc and feed feed tea ...
 

Daddygrows420

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@bubba73 @IrieRoots I want to say thank you to you guys for the help you gave me on my first grow! I'm sure it coulda been even better, but I have no reason to complain! I pulled a hair over 300 Grams of dense frosted nugs from ONE wickedpissah seeds Cherry Pebbles autoflower! Round 2 will begin in October! Peace out!
 

BassheadGrowsWeed

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you just feed herc/oly ? was this a herc day ? or a feed day ?
Just herc/oly. I was advised to back off from full feedings due to all of the extra nutrients that are likely locked up in the soil and to feed this for a week or so. Last 3 feeds have been herc/oly, microbe tea, and herc/oly. I’ve Also been advised that’s it may be beneficial to do a few PhD water only feeds incorporated with cultivating the soil to try and free up anything that’s stuck down there for nutrients that could be burning
 
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bubba73

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Just herc/oly. I was advised to back off from full feedings due to all of the extra nutrients that are likely locked up in the soil and to feed this for a week or so. Last 3 feeds have been herc/oly, microbe tea, and herc/oly. I’ve Also been advised that’s it may be beneficial to do a few PhD water only feeds incorporated with cultivating the soil to try and free up anything that’s stuck down there for nutrients that could be burning
if any lock out it will show in slurries too .... looking back at your pics just the tops look at that ? if yes then light is to close ... I dont know why any one would want you to water only , nectar is not a salt nutrient , but maybe that tea your using is .. so lets get to the bottom of this and figure it out .. that tea your using is a "feed tea". and that makes me nervous ....

I would email Scott and ask him .... [email protected]
 

BassheadGrowsWeed

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if any lock out it will show in slurries too .... looking back at your pics just the tops look at that ? if yes then light is to close ... I dont know why any one would want you to water only , nectar is not a salt nutrient , but maybe that tea your using is .. so lets get to the bottom of this and figure it out .. that tea your using is a "feed tea". and that makes me nervous ....

I would email Scott and ask him .... [email protected]
The compost tea I’m using is buffaloam compost tea. https://www.domyown.com/buffaloam-organic-plant-food-loose-compost-tea-p-3510.html

I empty my water into a bucket and add herc/oly up to ph it to 6.4 then I add my slf (5ml/gal) and then the scoops of compost tea and drop in my air stone and plug in the pump. I let it brew for about 24 hours until the top is foamy, generally adding a small amount of molasses around 8-12 hours into the brew.
The leaves are discoloring across the plant but the crispy dead grey ish leaves are up closer to the top that I’ve noticed. I just raised my light up to 30” over the plant the other night but she’s been under this light at the original 26” for 3 weeks to a month before any of these problems started popping up. I guess I’ll try and email Scott because I’m really at a loss here. Not sure why everything that’s supposed to fix her isn’t

If this tea is problematic I’m actually almost st the end of my tin and could switch to a different brand but she’s been getting this as a tea for 2.5-3 months now
 

Flatrate

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should be following the feed feed herc , feed feed tea ... the idea is when you transplant you should be sprinkle either dr root or Bigfoot in the hole then water in either Bigfoot concentrate or cultured veg tea then start with the feed feed herc and feed feed tea ...
Good info, thanks! I've been meaning to ask about Bigfoot, I'll add that to my list. Speaking of list OCG has a sale coming up and was wondering what should I have on my radar?
 

IrieRoots

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Whats going on everyone? I am making progress, at least I think I am. Here is what I've been giving them over the last few days.

09/06
Medusa 5ml
Gaia 5ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 580
Herc 5ml SLF-100 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly Up
09/08
Medusa 10ml
Gaia 10ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 870
Herc 5ml SLF-100 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly Up
View attachment 4393185

Today 09/11 I repotted them into final homes. The amount of roots on the plants was pretty impressive. Then I feed them as follows.

Medusa 10ml
Gaia 10ml PH 6.4
Athena 5ml PPM 930
Demeters 5ml I forgot SLF-100
Herc 5ml
Zeus 5ml
Oly up

I elected to go ahead and give them SLF with every feed, seems like that is the best choice. When should I do a tea day?
Are those pots in the photo their final home? It's a good place to start the feed feed tea/ feed feed flush regiment. If all you have done is feed so far, do a TEA next and start the regiment.
 

Flatrate

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No the photo was in 1 gallon pots, I dropped them into final 5 gallon pots. Yes all I have done so far is feed, I did a tea this morning. Thanks Irie.
 

BassheadGrowsWeed

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Pics from last night and then tonight. I cleaned some more crispy burnt shit off of some leaves but I don’t think the yellow is progressing as rapidly anymore? It’s hard to tell at this point. Hopefully there’s nothing additional in the morning before lights out. I’ve also raised the light up to to 29” above the canopy just Incase it’s got something to do with the lights (although I don’t think so bc they’ve been under them for almost a month)
 

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Flatrate

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Sorry Basshead, I wish I could help. I hope she pulls through.

I have a small problem I hope you guys can advise. Two days ago I transplanted 6 of my 7 plants, had to get more 5 gallon pots. Yesterday morning I transplanted the lonely one, and things got a little crazy. When sliding her in her new home the the root ball started to kinda fall apart, and I knew I probably hurt it. So this morning the light comes on and I go to check them out, and she is limp.

I checked all over and am very sure its transplant shock. My question is, what is the best course of action to take? Water only for a few days?
 

IrieRoots

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Sorry Basshead, I wish I could help. I hope she pulls through.

I have a small problem I hope you guys can advise. Two days ago I transplanted 6 of my 7 plants, had to get more 5 gallon pots. Yesterday morning I transplanted the lonely one, and things got a little crazy. When sliding her in her new home the the root ball started to kinda fall apart, and I knew I probably hurt it. So this morning the light comes on and I go to check them out, and she is limp.

I checked all over and am very sure its transplant shock. My question is, what is the best course of action to take? Water only for a few days?
definitely shocked her, yes just water and possibly a kelp foliar......and no intense light or heavy fan breeze!! If not bouncing back over next 48 hours it might need to be topped to stifle the plants energy that the lead growing tip requires!!
 

IrieRoots

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definitely shocked her, yes just water and possibly a kelp foliar......and no intense light or heavy fan breeze!! If not bouncing back over next 48 hours it might need to be topped to stifle the plants energy that the lead growing tip requires!!
should only have to use plain water once or twice......once to water in the fumbled transplant and one light watering to just keep the soil moist......then Gaia is a nice stress reducer to correct the shock!!
 

Flatrate

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Thank you Irie, your the man!
I just went to take a picture its looking better than it did 4 hours ago.

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Here are all of them.

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Flatrate

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Just checked on the plants, everything is looking good. The one dealing with the shock is doing great and already picked itself up out of the dirt!
 
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