damn ! if your slurry is a ppm 440 with multiple days of bk ? I can just imagine what your ppm was before it .....bk will twist your leafs up and curl .... is this foliar or root drench bk ?
NFTG. Nectar For The Gods
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Focal Grows
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I was going with 5ml/qt Foliar and root drenching for a few days till flower sets really came in. Yeah it was total overkill and I would feed with a solution around 2000ppm and a day after slurry would be around 200ppm. I finally did a compost tea and my nutrients seem to be sticking around in the soil longer and I am backing my feeds down a lil bit, but still plan on going with bk in the solution every other feed.
bk should be started in week 3 after the the stretch .... bk foliar makes them squat , root drench makes them stretch ...
Focal Grows
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Next round I will be doing 1/4 strength Foliar in the final week or two of veg working my way up to full strength through week 2 of bloom and then start on the root drench applications there after.
Imaginathan
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Total random situation here and my second nectar grown crop, has anyone had an issue with soil compaction? I usually water very slowly over the course of about an hour, and let it seep in gradually but I had one plants soil take awhile to absorb. Kind of left a muddy “film” over the top when I checked on it the next morning.
Plant seems aight, minus a slight N def in week 2 flower, which I’m treating with a fish hydro/EM foliar.
Plant seems aight, minus a slight N def in week 2 flower, which I’m treating with a fish hydro/EM foliar.
loop718
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Its a calcium buildup. It creates a bone meal crust. You can scratch top surface of pot when it dries a little. Slf helps keep the build up down.
Imaginathan
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I was wondering if that was the issue, kind of remember seeing that somewhere in the unofficial nectar Bible. I’m about to feed that girl tonight and I will definitely add the SLF and scratch the surface up, thanks bud!
Flatrate
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Hi guys, first off I just want to thank those who have been helping me! So I've been feeding/watering every other day. I posted the first feed already, here are the rest, and yea I messed up.
Second Feed- I did what Irie said and brought the ppm up to 247. However after I watered with it I realized I used my old ppm meter on the 500 scale, I looked at the conversion chart that was provided and on the 700 scale it was 350 ppm. PH was 6.42. I knew for sure that night when I checked on them before work, they would be dead. Them damn plants were loving life that night, I was stoked.
Third Feed- And second screw up! I repotted the plants into one gallon pots. Then I did a dab, then I went to mix the feed. Wasn't thinking forgot to add Athena's and looking at the chart with my head in the clouds, mixed up a 5ml of each Medusa, Gaia, Zeus in a gallon of water. Didn't notice it until I went for the ppm reading, and it was 610, at least I remembered to use the Blue Lab. Not wanting to waste it I just gave them a light watering, then regretted it. Woke up that night for work, scared to check, sure as shit they were praying to the light.
Forth Feed- I am getting better. I mixed up 3 ml of each Medusa, Gaia, Athena, Zeus in a gallon of tap water. With no adjustment the PH was 6.5, and I don't have Hades Down, maybe I should get some? PPM was 430.
On a final note the plants are looking awesome, the 8 Ball Kush are really jumping. It seems like I notice growth daily, NFTG is some good stuff. Where do I go from here?
Second Feed- I did what Irie said and brought the ppm up to 247. However after I watered with it I realized I used my old ppm meter on the 500 scale, I looked at the conversion chart that was provided and on the 700 scale it was 350 ppm. PH was 6.42. I knew for sure that night when I checked on them before work, they would be dead. Them damn plants were loving life that night, I was stoked.
Third Feed- And second screw up! I repotted the plants into one gallon pots. Then I did a dab, then I went to mix the feed. Wasn't thinking forgot to add Athena's and looking at the chart with my head in the clouds, mixed up a 5ml of each Medusa, Gaia, Zeus in a gallon of water. Didn't notice it until I went for the ppm reading, and it was 610, at least I remembered to use the Blue Lab. Not wanting to waste it I just gave them a light watering, then regretted it. Woke up that night for work, scared to check, sure as shit they were praying to the light.
Forth Feed- I am getting better. I mixed up 3 ml of each Medusa, Gaia, Athena, Zeus in a gallon of tap water. With no adjustment the PH was 6.5, and I don't have Hades Down, maybe I should get some? PPM was 430.
On a final note the plants are looking awesome, the 8 Ball Kush are really jumping. It seems like I notice growth daily, NFTG is some good stuff. Where do I go from here?
loop718
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Sounds like there ready for full strength how old are they? You can use herc to ph down with it wont hurt your feed it will help out if anything. Make sure your getting oly up into the soil it needs it to buffer the soil. Good luck brotha sounds like its going smooth.
IrieRoots
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Yeah work up to the first section of veg feed after the seed/clone drop down. You prolly didn't need to drop down to 3 ml feeds, they seemed to be likeing the 5 ml, like loop said, the Herc will help drop ph. The idea with nectar is to slowly build up, So bring your next feed back up to 5 ml of Gaia Medusa Zues and do 5 ml of Athenas & 5 ml of HERC to start training the metabolism of the plant with how nectar Herc delivers nutrients, I'm pretty sure they will love you for it, then you can start bumping Medusa & Gaia to 10 ml each and keep Athenas & Herc at 5 ml each, by the third feed start introducing Demeters at 5 ml.......keep watching the plant, she will show you everything. With a few feeds in and the metabolism building, take a slurry to see if they are prime for a TEA or Herc reset......Just remember your only in one gallons so nutrients can build up fast if you get over zealous, just gradually bump your feeds and keep an eye on plant reaction, right now you are in control of how fast there metabolism for Nectar is built. Nectar is gentle, so don't need to baby them, just keep doing what your doing and gradually bump up and introduce more over the next few feeds, so by next week you will have ramped up to full strength feeds and more than likely have a TEA day in there.
BunkerKing
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Me too lol.
Man i couldnt have been more wrong about not watering everyday with coco.
It just goes against everything i know.
I started feeding them twice a day, light feeds.
For the last week or so.
and welp. They are praying and growth is exploding.
These plants will make you humble lol.
Also.. Cinderella is looking to be a keeper. So many nodes.
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IrieRoots
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Lmao.....we are our own worst enemy in the garden.....me and bubba chatted about how you were feeding a while back when you posted your coco feed regiment and figured it was one of those, " IF IT WORKS FOR YOU"', type scenarios, "KEEP ON DOING IT"......ya know????, so we didn't chime in, plus we are die hard #4 soil growers so we tip toe around coco, but letting it go too dry can seriously throw a wrench in nutrient uptake. Much like you prolly found out....on the flip side, you figured it out, and managed to work in multiple feeds in a day like coco is designed to handle!! Glad you found a cindi keeper, can't go wrong with those genetics!!
BunkerKing
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Seriously.
I decided to read a bunch of guides on it.
Treat coco like soil for soil like results.
Appears to be true lol.
Thanks man.
The problem was the rootmaker pots were trapping pockets of water, so i still got really bad roots. Due to them drowning. So i blamed the daily watering, and saw better results.
But that was why.
I decided to read a bunch of guides on it.
Treat coco like soil for soil like results.
Appears to be true lol.
Thanks man.
The problem was the rootmaker pots were trapping pockets of water, so i still got really bad roots. Due to them drowning. So i blamed the daily watering, and saw better results.
But that was why.
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IrieRoots
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Even ph is to be run the same as soil, but if something still seems to not be hitting, running a point lower. So if in late bloom the optimal soil feed ph is around 6.6, so with some genetics in coco 6.5 might be better!! If that makes sense....
BunkerKing
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Correct. Running feeds around 6.2-6.4 depending.
I am just watering it till the 1st signs of run off. Twice a day.
Treating it more like "hydro" than soil. But still using nectar as normal.
Its been great. 1st time ive been able to see new growth within a few days. They have been slow growing.
Also with the constant feeds. BK isnt a problem because they always get access to a new feed dose within 12ish hours.
Happy BunkerKing.
loop718
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Day 39 since flip. No bk this run seeing how soil has never been in range there whole life. Im feeding 1400ppm and there is always 2-300ppm left in soil. Soil ph hovering around 6.0 just cant get it up. Me and bubba been going over everything from day 1 hopefully we get it inline or at least figure out what I did so it doesn't happen next time. Were thinking it was way too many microbes. Thats why the ppms get wiped put asap and the microbes waste is very acidic. Like i said day 39 heres a couple of bob sized chem colas. Chems a 9-10 week strain they should chunk right up.
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Imaginathan
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I swear I just saw this on reddit today lol
BunkerKing
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ah wasnt me.
right on !!!! coco just like soil dry out to much it can be a disaster !!!! coco I dont play with much cause all the prep work that needs done before using , flush most of the salts out , now reuse it for next run things will be a lot smoother ... nectar is work !!! gotta have everything right when growing or close to it so when you amend and reuse it , its less work trying to keep the slurry in range ... im a fan of fabric pots .... do a little research I mite be wrong but condition coco you do a Gaia wash before using ...