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Skunkyman121

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I am just wondering if any one could help me out on a few things ... if you could would be great.


basically i am going to grow cuttings in doors under flourescent lighting before planting outside and was just wondering .

1. how to work out watts per square foot (if it is needed for cuttings) but also for the mother plant.

2. Can i keep my mother plant alive under flourscent lighting year round ... And do i need certain bulbs or will the standard bulbs do.

3. Can i countinue to grow my cuttings/clones after they have rooted .. under flourscent lights till they are big enough to be planted outside.

4. How tall roughly do the cutting/clone have to be before the can be planted outside in --Great britain--

5. When planting outside what is the best way to go about this.-including ..#

Any neutriants ..etc.
 
Dirtfree

Dirtfree

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Welcome to RIU! Check out the FAQ at the top of the page. It will answer alot of the questions you are asking. Happy Growing!
 
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Skunkyman121

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Dirtfree said:
Welcome to RIU! Check out the FAQ at the top of the page. It will answer alot of the questions you are asking. Happy Growing!
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Thanks for that info it was useful both of you .... :D but i still need help with what flourscent bulbs to use just to grow my clones and to keep my mother plant in vegitation.

I have 2x ..2 ft fittings and both have 18 watt bulbs im guessing together its around 3060 lumens in a smallish space will this be enough to grow my cuttings and if i got 2-3 more could it keep my mother plant alive ... These are not compact fourcents btw .. so just wondering what other bulbs there are for eg .. daylight etc and which combos and voltage would be best for the above :) cheers fdor the help and again it will be useful
 
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Skunkyman121 said:
Thanks for that info it was useful both of you .... :D but i still need help with what flourscent bulbs to use just to grow my clones and to keep my mother plant in vegitation.

I have 2x ..2 ft fittings and both have 18 watt bulbs im guessing together its around 3060 lumens in a smallish space will this be enough to grow my cuttings and if i got 2-3 more could it keep my mother plant alive ... These are not compact fourcents btw .. so just wondering what other bulbs there are for eg .. daylight etc and which combos and voltage would be best for the above :) cheers fdor the help and again it will be useful
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Watt btw not valtage but im guessign you already knew that
 
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Where in the hell am I?

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Dude, my 23W CFL's are 2700K (perfect fer flower, 6500K better fer veg). You dont have enough Lumens, fer sure, try more like 55K, is a good number!
 
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jnuggs

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yo tussel has got it down. Talk about low electric bills on the mother room! haha
I would say if you're trying to stay cheap but have space get a set of 4' shop light fluoro's for like $10 each! use the 6500k(blue spectrum for veg) or you can use a mixture of the warm and cool bulbs (2700/6500) if you want! If your space isn't 4' though, maybe check out some CFL's.
 
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cheers sorry about questions but as i say im knew .. i have seperated the room into 3 spaces one for the mother one for just after the rooting progress and on for the rooting stages ..all will be kept vegative till they are planted outside ..so in a 2 and 1/2 ft x 3ft area (for rooting stage ) the flourescents aren't enough lumens? i have a philips 400w HID buld which i will use to keep the mother alive and a philips 180w warm white bulb which i will use to help them grow when they are moved from the rooting area....

Also if any one knows what seeds are best for planting outside in England (europe) which have a decent yeild and thc % would be great and helpful jsut as all your other info has been.. :D keep the help up its great of you
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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Skunkyman121 said:
cheers sorry about questions but as i say im knew .. i have seperated the room into 3 spaces one for the mother one for just after the rooting progress and on for the rooting stages ..all will be kept vegative till they are planted outside ..so in a 2 and 1/2 ft x 3ft area (for rooting stage ) the flourescents aren't enough lumens? i have a philips 400w HID buld which i will use to keep the mother alive and a philips 180w warm white bulb which i will use to help them grow when they are moved from the rooting area....

Also if any one knows what seeds are best for planting outside in England (europe) which have a decent yeild and thc % would be great and helpful jsut as all your other info has been.. :D keep the help up its great of you
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you confuse me what???? i would say 400w is a lot for mothers.. your not tryin to grow em huge i use a 26w cfl for 2 mothers and it puts out plenty of clones... i would use that hid for the vegging plants and you say floros are not enough to root with???? thats b/s, they have no roots they can not handle a lot of light... root growth is at its maximum in dark times veg growth in light,, you wanna avouid too much light while rooting
i use a 3 watt floro under cabinet light and they root in 7-10 days.. you dont want warm light for any stage you are working with... cool or daylight is what you want

400w mh vegging plants
180w warm bulb,,,,,,, get a cool bulb or daylight
use cfl's or floro tubes for mothers and clones

i kept 2 mothers under that 26w cfl for a lil more than a year and could have kept em in thair but its time for a new strain
 
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jnuggs

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Hey skunk, I once again agree. The 400w for mothers is overkill!! I am currently cloning and vegging under a 4 foot, 2 bulb, T-12 setup! No it's not the best but it definitely works perfectly fine! I would for sure use that 400w to veg the plants not clone or mother. Afterall, you're wanting them smaller inside and trees outside..not little bitty plants outside and a couple of super thick mothers! As for the strain for you to choose I can't help you out there, sorry.
Good luck!
 
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Skunkyman121

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tusseltussel said:
you confuse me what???? i would say 400w is a lot for mothers.. your not tryin to grow em huge i use a 26w cfl for 2 mothers and it puts out plenty of clones... i would use that hid for the vegging plants and you say floros are not enough to root with???? thats b/s, they have no roots they can not handle a lot of light... root growth is at its maximum in dark times veg growth in light,, you wanna avouid too much light while rooting
i use a 3 watt floro under cabinet light and they root in 7-10 days.. you dont want warm light for any stage you are working with... cool or daylight is what you want

400w mh vegging plants
180w warm bulb,,,,,,, get a cool bulb or daylight
use cfl's or floro tubes for mothers and clones

i kept 2 mothers under that 26w cfl for a lil more than a year and could have kept em in thair but its time for a new strain
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mate some one said i didnt have enough lumen in the flouresy i had so i said ... the flourescents not enough lumens tahnks for the info mate sorry to confuse you.

Does any one know any site that i can buy 30x 360 mist sprayers what are in the E Z clone machines i found one site where thye we 70cents each but shipping to the uk was 118.45 dollars .. 0.o
 
tusseltussel

tusseltussel

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Skunkyman121 said:
mate some one said i didnt have enough lumen in the flouresy i had so i said ... the flourescents not enough lumens tahnks for the info mate sorry to confuse you.

Does any one know any site that i can buy 30x 360 mist sprayers what are in the E Z clone machines i found one site where thye we 70cents each but shipping to the uk was 118.45 dollars .. 0.o
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its cool im easy to confuse . but yea you dnt want a lot of light on clones they cant store energy because they have no roots

www.htgsupply.com but i think your in the uk so im not sure
 
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Skunkyman121

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Ok all your help was great i now need help with another thing im sure yuo all know about ... Hydropnics .. i have made my water carryer and have the spriniklers on a hose but im just wondering weather the water has to hit the bottom of the cutting and how far down is it best to attch the hose/sprinklers cheers ppls keep it up
 
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