It's sucks I have to read like 6 ignorant posts before I can see how serapis's grow is doing, can ya'll please get out of this thread if you don't have any helpful advice, no one cares about your negative bs. You can argue back and forth about different grow styles and lights for years, it's just a preference, some things work better for others, as far as LED goes, warm states like Arizona would be ideal for LED growing because outdoor temps reach 120, while they use choppers to locate indoor grow ops. With LED no one would be able to see it.... so before you start running your mouth, remember, certain styles work better in certain places. Keep it up Serapis! I'd love to see the plants after they take to the new pots! GL and happy growing.