Thank you guys again, Hell I wish I could thank you both in person, if you know what i mean But ppm tester will be here tomorrow and bought thermometers today. One last question, I have KLN Rooting Concentrate claims to help with transplant shock, but I'm leery of what those boxes says. Should I use it at 1/4 or 1/2 strength? but i gave you guys good reputation for helping so much. I dont want you to think I didnt do research but you just hear so many different things, that you have to pick one and go with it. The brown spots seem to have stopped today and even had a couple of bud leaves point back up this morn. Not getting hopes up but it is a sign that is better than any I have seen! Just let me know on the KLN when you get a chance. Oh yeah and one more, the KLN says its great for root grow, got a couple of buddies that want to know if they can put it on their junk, for their wives sake, LMAO But seriously if you think the KLN Root concentrate of the Dutch Master Gold Root Zone would help with the shock please let me know. I have both. If Karma is true, then Cmonson you should have great things coming your way, and thanks to Zem too. But CM held my hand and walked me through. Im new to Roll it up but I am going to see if I can keep up with you. Cheers