My LED fluoro grow #1

Treeth yeah he said comparing Canna nutes to Fox farm nutes is like comparing the knowledge and experience of Amsterdam growers to that of Cali growers. I still haven't made the switch yet and I don't know if I will his time around especially after what you said about them, plus I like my results so far and wouldn't want to mess anything up

First of all, take pictures under better light.. Incandescent is best for color visibility.. And secondly get your pH straightened out.. Test the water you water with, and the the runoff.. They shouldn't be more than 0.5 points different if things are right.. You have no Mg def, or any other.. Lockout is starting, but thats to be expected under those conditions

Nice bean420 Will check back often !! Would be nice for a sub forum on LED lighting I'm going LED myself and think the results are great so far !! I have this stupid idea of adding 3 more LED in a 4 x 4 tent. Also keeping track of some other LED grows and like the results. Just think it needs to be twicked out alittle to get better results.

Peace bro ~~~~~~~~~~~

So here we are 3rd week of flower still looking strong adding more frost in new locations as well as adding more where it showed up first. First real bonehead move happened this week thou too. My nicest plant was topped so the two main shoots created a "Y" shape, well I spread those two shoots until the main stem split down the middle about a 1/2 inch. I quickly mended it and it seems ok but dang. anyhoo....
Jappy thanks for the comps wish you the best of luck
Borntokillspam I took some pictures with the grow lights off using an incandescent light. I didn't know I had a PH problem I test my water after adding nutes with a color change vile tester I aim for pee yellow color, since I haven't noticed a real problem I've never tested my runoff. Lights on temps are 80-83 F lights out 71-73F, humidity 50-60 lights 14/10 been that way for awhile now I'm just trying to be consistent watering every 3-4 days
Pics
#1 frosty from above
#2 Big Bud
#3 Frosty sideview
#4 Lights back on
#5 Under UFO little ones
#6 anotherone

Beanie,

What is the general likely-hood of melting, and burning, abreaker?

Treeth I honestly have NO idea why your breaker would blow, or rather why that much is being drawn by the psu regardless of the 5V rail.. You NEED to solve that, open up the psu and examine power connections.. Be careful! There are some nasty ass caps in there, and you can never actually trust a bleeder resistor..

Treeth the newer the breaker the less the likelihood of a breaker over heating , melting, or failing. If you are that worried add another circuit if you can. if not try to evenly disperse the load of your equipment among the circuits you already have. Remember watts divided by volts = Amps. Also see if you can get your hands on an amp meter it will tell you what you are drawing for amps. Don't bundle your wires/cords together if i can be avoided it causes heat to build up. and you probably know this already but don't over size your breaker it will make your wire the weak link, wire should always be sized to the breaker feeding it. On a 15 amp circuit try not to go over 80% of the full load or 12 amps on a 20 circuit 16-18 amps tops. now enough about you. How do my ladies look?

born2killspam What do you think? I took pics using an incandescent bulb for lighting

Is the yeast method of making CO2 worth it, especially if I have my fans running 24/7 I can't afford the real deal CO2 set up but I want to help the ladies all I can. also is it worth it to take clones still? I know that I would have to veg them and then reflower would it still save me time verses starting from seed again at this point?

Sorry, I don't often pipe in to pat ppl on the back for doing what they're supposed to do, and thats really all I could do regarding the plant health.. I pipe up when things just aint right..
And I agree with everything you said on the electrical front, but I don't think thats the whole of it.. He said the power cord to the psu was too hot to touch, thats FUCKED UP..
BTW, I probably know more about yeast/fermentation than I do about growing dope.. I made a thread in the DIY section but it never really took off.. I was upset with the recipes in existing yeast threads, and I actually outlined the CO2 production rates, likely diffusion rates and expected concentration for a given area/volume.. What is the volume of your grow space anyways?? And what are your ventilation specs?? It is very practical in smaller areas..
I do implore you to do it right if you do it, don't waste sugar killing yeast, brew some good beer symbiotically with your plants, or even more fun, get yourself a still.. "There ain't nothin like moonshine from your own still.."
www.homedistiller.org

hahaha, I've always, and still want to build a still! It takes a ton of energy though, doesn't it?... - Is it worth it to put together a stove top fractionating unit, with the biggest pot I can fit? What kind of... yield am i looking at, starting with only a couple of gallons of wash?

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ok, so 18 gauge does 16A, ...

Damn. I think I know now. I've noticed, that the cheaper the quality of a supply is, the more heat is produced, and it flows out of the box... through the cables. Especially due to my constant heavy draw. The cables are not heating up due to resistance, they're just conducting it out of the box from inefficiencies internally. Probably, definitely cheaper materials used for connections.

-I trip my breaker because i'm running over a thousand watts on 5 different psu's, on top of 23w uvb cfl's, fans, air pumps, Co2 etc.

Its since been split up between two different lines.

One of which is the 20A only used by the washer... Which was rated for 230W on the back? (The same amount of power i'm putting down on one foot photometrically, in one frequency. Ha. )

Treeth get a heavier gauge cord for your psu 18 gauge is a size smaller than 14 and would handle less amps my guess 10 amps . You can buy cord ends or sacrifice an extension cord. I know I use a lot less power than you but everything I have going plugs into one 20 amp circuit...... oh and by the way your crazy

I use a 375W slow-cooker for spirit runs.. Takes about 2hrs for that to get up to temperature for the first drop and then about 3hrs to turn 5L of 40% alcohol (80proof) into about 2.5L of 75% (150proof) for aging.. The answer is yes & no considering the value of the product if you do it well.. It might cost 25cents electricity to crank out a 40ozer equivalent right from the fermented wash, and less if using propane.. The site I listed has unbelievable info/design ideas for any size you desire, and forums full of really knowledgable dudes who will help you ferment and distill better than most product on the market if you put the effort into refining your skills.. And a little bit of oak makes anything swillable anyways..
Guys there do everything from stovetop units to 500Gallon units, from chinese stills to crazy refluxers and lab-glass setups.. They'll help you be safe too, check it out seriously, just avoid mentioning the weed growing..
As for yield, bakers yeast tops out at around 14% (but I suggest aim for 10% for quality sake.. so it might take say 4.5-5Gal to yield 1Gal of 40% spirit, it depends on your still.. I figure I can make 1Gallon of typical vodka for about $2.50 including ingredients and power.. I don't do that though, I like my Demerara rum which costs about $6/L final product because the sugar is really pricey..

Back to electrical, I don't think 18awg is rated that high for power transmission.. I thought 2.3A (which is way conservative granted), but thats still way more than needed.. I didn't realize you were running these in parallel on the same device.. Thats bad.. No 2 12V lines will match up, and you'll be feeding power from one psu to the other.. Or are they isolated??

No, they're isolated from each other! That would be insane to wire them up like that. I also keep the wiring separate for the two 12v rails as well... as there are a couplets of 18/20 gauge wires running out of the psu for each rail, 2 for the mobo and three for a gpu, so I'm able keep the lines pretty well matched up +/- , because, I have a modular design.

*My circuits do run in series, but not all off of one line out,

each "luminary module" has its own set of lines back to the rails, two 5A modules per rail, each on separate lines.

-I think this is what you're missing to understand my design, sorry I didn't explain that earlier- *

I am drawing as much as I say though. I will definitely get an amperage meter after harvest.


Ahhh, If only if only I had a digital PWM unit able to handle... 30A!


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Oh,
Sorry, there is no way those power cords are only 18 gauge... they're the standard three prong connectors, and feel as if they are at least 14 gauge.

I do think that all the heat is coming out of the soldered joints, if not just the pcb/internal components themselves...

I mean, its gonna wanna dump the heat out across copper way more than its gonna give it up to the air.

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I spent a lot of time on that distilling site a couple of years ago...

Definitely gonna use the high proof to make some nasty tinctures.

Odd, bathtub liquor = cool, in the states eyes.

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Speaking of which, I'm having a bitch of a time trying to get on here via free web based proxies,

what do you guys do?

An led grower... REPVIP, got raided by the feds today...

So I am necessarily concerned about my privacy... I know that this data would be tough to use in court but still...

A proxy is just another "cheap" thing I can justify, later.

Here's an update
Watered the ladies today getting harder and harder to get to the back plants so I took a couple out. the first pics are of the one I topped and the other 2 are ones I didn't. It was nice to get a good look at them it is pretty crowded but I really don't like pruning fan leaves I pretty much just bend them down out of the way. I only remove yellowing and dead leaves. It got pretty warm today I think the highest I saw it was 85F humidity 50% check em out

Awesome bean, I wish I had any hairs or calyxes at all.

How long did it take for those to show? -I'm a week in.

oh,

How long has it been so far, and Have they stopped "the flower stretch" yet?

Treeth I'm closing in on a month of flower. They started showing sex 4-5 days into flower and were forming buds a week and a half in.

All plants are different guys I've personally seen both of those time-lines.. Treeth, one thing that can slow flowering if this isn't the natural rate for the genetics is too much N.. Also too much K can facilitate the uptake of alot of N even if it isn't prominent in the mix.. Don't get me wrong, plants do like some N during 12/12, but do tread lightly with it..
BTW, when I say too much, I'm not talking enough for nute-burn or anything, just over abundantly proportioned..

Treeth they are still stretching hopefully they are slowing down now tired of moving the lights up constantly. The hairs or at least the tips of the hairs on the buds are turning orange and now all the bud sites are showing signs of trichs. They seem to be drinking a lot too. probably will have to water them every 2-3 days now. Got to get some more nutes soon too running low

Don't count on that just yet..

got some picks of my setup. this my first try growing. its all flourescent.

I tried getting some good frosty close ups but my digital camera won't focus in at close range, my cell phone works much better but I can't get the pics to my computer. Take my word they are looking nice. They are getting more pungent too, air neutralizer and freshener are still working well but definitely smell them more now.

Stylez you want to get more light and get it right up on your plants, all sides