My latest Vert garden

ttystikk said:

This is excellent, thank you.

Now, all we need to know are the ratios of nutrients in those three bottles and we'd be able to figure out what the actual applied ratios of nutrients are.

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Ratios on the bottom.
Veg NPK would be 16-8-24
Flower NPK would be 12-16-20

ttystikk said:

I'm sorry to hear you aren't feeling well. I enjoyed watching your grows. Are you still doing any growing these days?

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Thanks man, i appreciate it. I had shut down for a while, it just got too much for me. However I was spending insane amounts of money at the local dispensary, even at "compassionate" prices, so I had to start back up again.

And while it is nice to be growing my own meds again, I've been unable to give them the full attention they need and things have suffered as a result.

ttystikk said:

That TDS pen very likely converts to several different scales. It should be able to tell you which ppm scale you're using. The most common ones are EC x500 and EC x700, so it's likely to be one of those two.

I've been using EC for years specifically because of that confusion. When someone asks me to convert to ppm, I ask them which scale they need and it's easy to multiply.

For example, EC 2.0 is 1000ppm on the EC x500 scale, and 1400ppm on the EC x700 scale.

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...it probably does...but do I know how to find it??? Lol

OneHitDone said:

Great info @PKHydro
What I find interesting is all the bashing lately on GH products but when you see a journal of someone really kicking ass they are old school and rocking GH with no or minimal supplements.
I have never used GH 3 part but it sure is enticing to try it

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Ya I hear lots of shit about GH and Monsanto...yadda yadda. Whatever, it's simple and seems to provide the plants with everything they need. Im always amazed at the people rocking like 10 different bottles of nutrients...blows my mind the money their pissing away.

PKHydro said:

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Ratios on the bottom.
Veg NPK would be 16-8-24
Flower NPK would be 12-16-20



Thanks man, i appreciate it. I had shut down for a while, it just got too much for me. However I was spending insane amounts of money at the local dispensary, even at "compassionate" prices, so I had to start back up again.

And while it is nice to be growing my own meds again, I've been unable to give them the full attention they need and things have suffered as a result.



...it probably does...but do I know how to find it??? Lol





Ya I hear lots of shit about GH and Monsanto...yadda yadda. Whatever, it's simple and seems to provide the plants with everything they need. Im always amazed at the people rocking like 10 different bottles of nutrients...blows my mind the money their pissing away.

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Perfect re the end ratios, thank you!

It is sadly true that dispensaries use 'compassionate' care as a sick excuse to profit from real suffering. We both know how much it really costs to grow.

If I lived closer to you, I'd be more than happy to help out. I have some close friends around here I'm already doing it for. I do hope you get to feeling better soon, man.

Instructions for your pH pen should be in the box or online. If I even knew which ppm scale you were using, that would be plenty.

GH is simple and it works. People who piss fortunes away on nutes do it because they have no clue about plant nutrition and aren't willing to make the small effort to learn. It isn't even hard...

I use dry nutrient salts which give me excellent quality, consistent results, total control and full knowledge of what is- and what is not- in my nutes, all at a cost of literally pennies on the dollar vs the water bottles.

Hope you can share some pics again when you feel up to it. Your past grows were impressive!

Hey @PKHydro , I'm sure you had mentioned it somewhere in the thread - how close do you allow your plants to grow the the lamps?

The middle bulb is the one that tends to really get crowded out. My corner bulbs I'l try and keep a foot or two off the side of the plant to as to allow the most coverage. By the end there's tops within 8"-10" of the middle bulb, gotta watch close to avoid getting bleaching/burns. @OneHitDone

PKHydro said:

The middle bulb is the one that tends to really get crowded out. My corner bulbs I'l try and keep a foot or two off the side of the plant to as to allow the most coverage. By the end there's tops within 8"-10" of the middle bulb, gotta watch close to avoid getting bleaching/burns. @OneHitDone

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Your methods are giving me a big boner for vert growing again

PKHydro said:

The middle bulb is the one that tends to really get crowded out. My corner bulbs I'l try and keep a foot or two off the side of the plant to as to allow the most coverage. By the end there's tops within 8"-10" of the middle bulb, gotta watch close to avoid getting bleaching/burns. @OneHitDone

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Can you go over your lamp placement? It appears one in each of the 4 corners and 1 in the middle?
If a plant was only being hit from 1 side with a 1000W HPS but you turned her frequently, do you think that would be sufficient or counter-productive?

OneHitDone said:

Can you go over your lamp placement? It appears one in each of the 4 corners and 1 in the middle?
If a plant was only being hit from 1 side with a 1000W HPS but you turned her frequently, do you think that would be sufficient or counter-productive?

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I'm interested in his answer as well, but I'd be willing to bet that a 180° turn halfway through every day would work well. Another way to do that would be to have a bulb in front and another behind, then run one 6 hours and then kick the other one for 6 hours, then 12 in darkness.

ttystikk said:

I'm interested in his answer as well, but if be willing to bet that a 180° turn halfway through every day would work well. Another way to do that would be to have a bulb in front and another behind, then run one 6 hours and then kick the other one for 6 hours, then 12 in darkness.

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My interest in the topic is for locations where there is not enough physical sq ft to have a lamp on both sides with proper clearance to keep from toasting things.

OneHitDone said:

My interest in the topic is for locations where there is not enough physical sq ft to have a lamp on both sides with proper clearance to keep from toasting things.

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I saw a rotating table for horticulture many years ago at a trade show and never saw it again.

OneHitDone said:

Can you go over your lamp placement? It appears one in each of the 4 corners and 1 in the middle?
If a plant was only being hit from 1 side with a 1000W HPS but you turned her frequently, do you think that would be sufficient or counter-productive?

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Yes your correct, 1 light in each corner, and 1 in the middle. This means each plant has 3 bulbs around it.

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X O X ........ X=Plants
O X O

I'm sure rotating the plant could work, but it's certainly not ideal. I support my plants by tying branches up to an overhead grid, turning a plant 180° would certainly cause issues. Also I couldn't turn the bottom bucket due to drain lines, so I would have to somehow lift the plant and root ball together, spin 180° and put the plant back down.

Having 1 bulb and rotating the plant will work, but it's not going to be efficient or allow the plant to develop to its full potential as one half is always going to receive less light.

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My interest in the topic is for locations where there is not enough physical sq ft to have a lamp on both sides with proper clearance to keep from toasting things.

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How much room are you working with?

PKHydro said:

How much room are you working with?

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5' x 9'

OneHitDone said:

5' x 9'

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That's tight, how many lights do you have?

I can see 3 bulbs with 2 plants, all in a row.

O X O X O

But you might be better off with a couple of overhead overhead bulbs and a good scrog in that space...

Merry Christmas @PKHydro !
Can you tell me what size hose you are running from your plants back to your res?

OneHitDone said:

Merry Christmas @PKHydro !
Can you tell me what size hose you are running from your plants back to your res?

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Merry Christmas to you as well. I believe they're 3/4" return lines.

PKHydro said:

Merry Christmas to you as well. I believe they're 3/4" return lines.

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Thanks bro, are the fittings you are using on the bottom of the buckets hydro store stuff or something you put together at the hardware store?

No problem man @OneHitDone I picked the fittings up at the hydro store...not sure if you would be able to find them at the average hardware store. I think they're called thru-hulls. I have the 90° thru hulls in the bottoms of my buckets and just the straight thru-hulls in the side of my res.

They are called bulkhead fittings, you can order direct from Banjo fitting, they have them all.

thats a beautiful setup im working on my 21by 18 ft garage if i did it in dirt could i pull as much as in hydro i currently do dwc but its alot of money in nutes that i cant afford right now but dirt i can handle just need to produce good number gonna split garage in two rooms and run cycle out every 4 weeks3000 watts each room

Dexterbell said:

thats a beautiful setup im working on my 21by 18 ft garage if i did it in dirt could i pull as much as in hydro i currently do dwc but its alot of money in nutes that i cant afford right now but dirt i can handle just need to produce good number gonna split garage in two rooms and run cycle out every 4 weeks3000 watts each room

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Nutes should not be expensive.
www.hydro-gardens.com

4-20-36 mix and calcium nitrate in equal parts (dissolve in water separately and combine in the nutrient tank once in solution)

And run it! Silly cheap compared to water bottles.

You have no idea how much money I just saved you.