My... have times changed...

Jjgrow420

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We had gang of 4 for about 30 years of guerilla growing . We were all were friends from school , still friends today .

Had our shit planned to the minute for drop offs and pick ups , all our stories straight , matching and unwaivering . Nobody was allowed in the group or to mention a word outside of it .

There was an "us against them" attitude and an implicit sense of trust . Not once did one of us break the rules and we had a shit ton of adventures .

We made great money and even better memories . Who'd have ever figured that the days of prohibition would end up being the good old days ?
Same deal here. We've mainly disbanded. One is planting trees somewhere in BC last I heard of him. I'm still tight with one of them and he still talks to guy out west. I feel that attitude thing. It always made me feel fucking alive, like doing something that not everyone does, not sitting on my biscuit, actually risking it. Carrying bag after bag of fresh harvest to the ditch waiting for the ride to come,. Hearing the critters in the corn. One time I must have been within feet of a huge deer. I could hear it snorting and breathing. Lol. Lugging around bails of promix on my back, cutting in irrigation from small streams, hiding from planes and copters. Ha. Yep..those were the wild days.
 

Unga Bunga

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Same deal here. We've mainly disbanded. One is planting trees somewhere in BC last I heard of him. I'm still tight with one of them and he still talks to guy out west. I feel that attitude thing. It always made me feel fucking alive, like doing something that not everyone does, not sitting on my biscuit, actually risking it. Carrying bag after bag of fresh harvest to the ditch waiting for the ride to come,. Hearing the critters in the corn. One time I must have been within feet of a huge deer. I could hear it snorting and breathing. Lol. Lugging around bails of promix on my back, cutting in irrigation from small streams, hiding from planes and copters. Ha. Yep..those were the wild days.
You know it !
 

Unga Bunga

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I just was thinking of doing that the other day to travel out of state to buy legal cannabis.
Only I was going to use colored tape on my plates instead of white out. Damn good idea. :)
Just don't do it at night , reflective plates would screw it up . Another thing that would give me the heebies is those automatic plate readers they have now . Probably burn out the friggin mother board in the cruisers computer .
 

Aeroknow

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Back then, it was so heat just to buy a lamp many of our first lamps were heisted off a sign, or when they had them on the ground lighting up the front of the building was the easiest. Grab, pull, sparks ... Run. Lmao. Still have one of those somewhere.... I'd gut them, and put the parts inside an electrical subpanel box and run wire leads to the hood. Ah good times. I miss the old days. Such a rapscallion I was....
The very first hydro store hps lights we could buy, pre-hydrofarm(bay area product), was Diamond. They actually had a hood to their ballast plug pattern similar to the now sunlight but reverse. State of the art stuff back then
 

calvin.m16

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The neighbor here took her 16 year old grandson in and he told them he had anxiety. Medical card right there.
In Michigan mental disorders aren't covered by the MMJ Card but doctors will just check you have Cerebral palsy or something to get the $$. Proof the "medical system" is a joke money grab. Whenever lawmakers get involved in medicine things get fucked. Look at Opiates, Benzos, Barbituates, etc. All demonized by the alphabet groups (DEA, FDA, etc). There's a very interesting cycle of legal great new drugs then they turn around and fuck everyone on it. It's all just a money grab. Eventually I feel like people in North America (Canada & USA) are going to get tired of being played by this cycle and fight back. When that will happen? Who the fuck knows.

As of Jan 13, 2023, the average annual pay for a DEA Agent in the United States is $80,791 a year. Just in case you need a simple salary calculator, that works out to be approximately $38.84 an hour. This is the equivalent of $1,553/week or $6,732/month.
I am not able to find an exact figure for the annual cost of the DEA to American taxpayers, but the DEA's budget is included in the overall budget for the Department of Justice, which was approximately $29.2 billion for fiscal year 2020. The DEA's budget makes up a portion of that amount, but I do not have the specific breakdown.
Anyone else say we take that $29.2 billion per year and spend it on something worthwhile?

Proof lawmakers are literally clueless is they will set the law to 12 plants but 2.5 ounces, who the fuck gets 2.5 ounces of flower off 12 plants?? Are they growing in tea cups?
 
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thumper60

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In Michigan mental disorders aren't covered by the MMJ Card but doctors will just check you have Cerebral palsy or something to get the $$. Proof the "medical system" is a joke money grab. Whenever lawmakers get involved in medicine things get fucked. Look at Opiates, Benzos, Barbituates, etc. All demonized by the alphabet groups (DEA, FDA, etc). There's a very interesting cycle of legal great new drugs then they turn around and fuck everyone on it. It's all just a money grab. Eventually I feel like people in North America (Canada & USA) are going to get tired of being played by this cycle and fight back. When that will happen? Who the fuck knows.




Anyone else say we take that $29.2 billion per year and spend it on something worthwhile?

Proof lawmakers are literally clueless is they will set the law to 12 plants but 2.5 ounces, who the fuck gets 2.5 ounces of flower off 12 plants?? Are they growing in tea cups?
2.5 oz is the limit there? Here its 6 plants in flower per person no limit on weight i can have 50 lbs in my house an be legal by state standards. Also can have up to 99 plants under a ft tall no matter the sex
 

calvin.m16

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2.5 oz is the limit there? Here its 6 plants in flower per person no limit on weight i can have 50 lbs in my house an be legal by state standards. Also can have up to 99 plants under a ft tall no matter the sex
Yes but absolutely no one gives a flying fuck including the police. There were Chaldeans being paid to run massive grow warehouses here buying literal u haul trucks worth of nutrients like Heavy 16 and 60+ LED fixtures and growing with absolutely no license. Detroit Michigan had illegal grows that were being operated out of mansion rentals and they cracked down very mildly on it.

Weed here is probably less relevant than tobacco anymore. Everyone and their great grandma grows and sells weed. Most people just go to the dispensary anymore because they'll deliver straight to your door for free if you spend more than $50-100 on an order and a lot of people don't care that the weed is 3 years old and brown if its only $50/oz or $10/gram for wax.

If you just google dispensary menus here you will see what I'm talking about. They sell ounces of small buds for $20 before tax. It absolutely has ruined the craft here, lots of people don't care about how good the weed is they just care that it smokes and ashes.
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Unga Bunga

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Yes but absolutely no one gives a flying fuck including the police. There were Chaldeans being paid to run massive grow warehouses here buying literal u haul trucks worth of nutrients like Heavy 16 and 60+ LED fixtures and growing with absolutely no license. Detroit Michigan had illegal grows that were being operated out of mansion rentals and they cracked down very mildly on it.

Weed here is probably less relevant than tobacco anymore. Everyone and their great grandma grows and sells weed. Most people just go to the dispensary anymore because they'll deliver straight to your door for free if you spend more than $50-100 on an order and a lot of people don't care that the weed is 3 years old and brown if its only $50/oz or $10/gram for wax.

If you just google dispensary menus here you will see what I'm talking about. They sell ounces of small buds for $20 before tax. It absolutely has ruined the craft here, lots of people don't care about how good the weed is they just care that it smokes and ashes.
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On the other side we have our illustrious government in CT allowing the serfs a measley 1/4 oz purchase at this price...

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thumper60

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Yes but absolutely no one gives a flying fuck including the police. There were Chaldeans being paid to run massive grow warehouses here buying literal u haul trucks worth of nutrients like Heavy 16 and 60+ LED fixtures and growing with absolutely no license. Detroit Michigan had illegal grows that were being operated out of mansion rentals and they cracked down very mildly on it.

Weed here is probably less relevant than tobacco anymore. Everyone and their great grandma grows and sells weed. Most people just go to the dispensary anymore because they'll deliver straight to your door for free if you spend more than $50-100 on an order and a lot of people don't care that the weed is 3 years old and brown if its only $50/oz or $10/gram for wax.

If you just google dispensary menus here you will see what I'm talking about. They sell ounces of small buds for $20 before tax. It absolutely has ruined the craft here, lots of people don't care about how good the weed is they just care that it smokes and ashes.
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Boy that sucks here a small craft grower can still make it in the gray market gotta be top notch, Tons of 10-20 light rooms are shutting down here everyday Gotta go huge or stay small with top notch.We pay a little over 300 bucks per 1000KWH LOL you cant give away bulb lights here.
 

Triplefastaction

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Back while Operation Green Merchant was underway ( I obviously didn't know at the time), I made the 3 hour round trip to the nearest hydro store. About 2 hours after I got home, my house was buzzed low altitude by a very obvious military aircraft. I assume they were looking for a heat signature. I was probably on a list for buying seeds from Marc Emery too... I was very small time so nothing came of it, but scared the crap out of me at the time.
 

Kerowacked

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Funny that "live free or die" equates to no pot or gambling. Lucky for you, you have MA, VT, and ME if you want to be free a short ride from home.
Out of state folks get more benefits from NH than actual residents.
NH has mini casinos everywhere, 3 in Nashua, half goes to charity or somesuch arrangement. Only went to one in Hampton Beach years ago. I’ll say this for the tax-free grow shop i go to occasionally, they do grow some nice tomatoes!
 

Hooda Thunkit

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Here ta' Vantucky, Worthington oz's of decent looking midshelf can be had for $36. Per ounce. Not the most amazing weed by today's standard, but the same weed would've fetched $400 an ounce back in the 80's around here.

Cannot grow without a medical license here, though.
 

Brettman

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In Michigan mental disorders aren't covered by the MMJ Card but doctors will just check you have Cerebral palsy or something to get the $$. Proof the "medical system" is a joke money grab. Whenever lawmakers get involved in medicine things get fucked. Look at Opiates, Benzos, Barbituates, etc. All demonized by the alphabet groups (DEA, FDA, etc). There's a very interesting cycle of legal great new drugs then they turn around and fuck everyone on it. It's all just a money grab. Eventually I feel like people in North America (Canada & USA) are going to get tired of being played by this cycle and fight back. When that will happen? Who the fuck knows.




Anyone else say we take that $29.2 billion per year and spend it on something worthwhile?

Proof lawmakers are literally clueless is they will set the law to 12 plants but 2.5 ounces, who the fuck gets 2.5 ounces of flower off 12 plants?? Are they growing in tea cups?
That doesn’t seem like a lot of money for being a DEA agent.. what would that be in Canadian dollars
 
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