My first grow! Updated daily. 400 watt Ebb and Flow - White Berry

doogleef

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does f.f have a soilesss mix? without any nutes or fertalizer?
Not exactly sure what you are asking here. FF makes soil and nutes for hydro-soil. The FF soil does have some guano and wormcastings in it for nutrients. These should be enough for a young plant for a few weeks.

There are no time-release nutes that can/will burn plants like there is in Miracle Grow and the like. After a few weeks my moms will need some grow big every other water cycle. :joint:
 

beennoobed

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soil completly free of nutes im tryin to say, i thought "soil-less mix" was soil without n.e nutri...i like f.f 3 part n feed moms in soil every 3 days...
 

doogleef

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OK. I see where you are going now. :mrgreen:

No. FFOF is soil. All organic material.

Here is a def of soilless:
A medium for growing plants in containers. It contains no actual soil but includes various combinations of ingredients such as peat moss, composted pine bark, sand, perlite, or vermiculite, plus small amounts of limestone and other ground minerals or fertilizers.




Update shortly.... :peace:
 

jukester

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Good luck with your grow i have my white berry's in Heath modified waterfarms at about 35 days of flower, def beautiful plants. cant wait for them to finish.

you will not be disappointed with these babies!

-Juke
 

doogleef

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Day 3-1/2 in Dirt

Temp - 72-82F
21% humidity
Water with ph'd water. No nutes
CFL's 6" from plant tops.

As you can see from the pics I got the fan and ducting for the cooltube. The axial I got works fine as long as the duct is not too long and there is no filter. They are not ready for that light yet but it is ready when they are :hump: I turned off heat pad today.

The 3rd WB may be dead. :sad:. It has still not stood up. I removed the soil from around the leaves that have formed to see if that helps in the next couple days. If not I still have 2 WB and the DP to make moms.

Supplies ************

6" duct fan - $28
8' cord for fan - $4
3 prong plug - $3
25' ducting - $20
6" clamps x 2 - $2 ea.
 

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doogleef

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Good luck with your grow i have my white berry's in Heath modified waterfarms at about 35 days of flower, def beautiful plants. cant wait for them to finish.

you will not be disappointed with these babies!

-Juke
Thanks for stopping in jukester. Glad to hear you are having good experience with WB:leaf: I can't wait for these ladies to grow up :weed:
 

doogleef

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Nice plants :). Keep us updated on them. How long did you veg them for?:leaf:

Lights on in just over an hour. Day 5 pics later ... :clap:
 

doogleef

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Day 4 in dirt:

New vent fan is working well:
68-80F 22% RH
No nutes yet. - Just PHd water.
CFLs are 5" away from leaves.

The plan is to leave them under the CFLs till Wed. Once they are 1 wk old I will transplant to 8" pots, wait 2 days then switch to 400 HPS on the 18/6 schedule.

Mallory and WB1 and 2 are doing well :bigjoint:. WB3 is dead i think. Still lying on its cotys:wall:

I only need 15-17 clones every 8 weeks so 2-3 moms is more than enough. If I just go ahead and flower these and makes clones into moms for a SOG next round then 3 full plants will be all that my tent will handle anyway. :lol:

4-6 weeks until they are sexually mature. :sleep::sleep:

I've been reading about the lucas formula. My go that way. Save some $$$ ...
 

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jukester

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seed
i have clones of the 2 best but of my favorite one so far i only have one so i'm trying to take more off of that once it's side shoots go
 

doogleef

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Day 5 update:
72-82F 21% RH
No nutes - Just Ph'd water
CFL's 5" from plants

The 3rd WB may yet make it. The seedling is showing some signs of life since i freed its leaves from the soil. It is obviously stunted but it may make it after all. :mrgreen:

I can see the start of the second set of real leaves on all 3 normal kiddies. :hump:

2 more days till transplant to 8" pots. Then this weekend we turn on the 400 :blsmoke:
 

doogleef

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Had a little temp issue today. Got up to 86F :shock:. I redid the exhaust fan out the top to see if that helps at all. I'm afraid I will have to relocate the tent out of the closet it is in before I can turn on the 400. That or vent it up to the attic but this is a rental :sad:. Either way eventually this duct fan will be intake and a vortex and carbon filter will be doing the heavy lifting. :clap:

Temp 78-86F 20% RH
Ph'd water feed.
Lights were 4 " moved them back to 6" to counter heat.

Transplant tomorrow :-P
 

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mared juwan

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nice, dude. I see healthy plants. Heat can be a pain in the ass but it has to go somewhere. I played around with my ventilation setup for weeks before it was right. 20% RH is kinda low for veg - you want 50-60 or higher. Still, not as big a problem as too high humidity in flower. I can tell you from personal experience that mold SUCKS. Try to keep it under 40 during flower.
 

doogleef

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Temp 70.1-79.6F 20RH :hump:
NO Nutes yet.
CFL's 4-6' from tops

:joint:Growing little little weeds :joint:
I planed on transplant today but it did not happen and it is late now. :roll: Tomorrow I promise. As you can see my temps are back to normal. Must keep tent closed to ventilation works like it is designed :dunce:. Good thing too:-| because my resources are tapped until after the first of the year.

I am off to hunt for the humidifier I need.... :mrgreen:
 

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doogleef

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nice, dude. I see healthy plants. Heat can be a pain in the ass but it has to go somewhere. I played around with my ventilation setup for weeks before it was right. 20% RH is kinda low for veg - you want 50-60 or higher. Still, not as big a problem as too high humidity in flower. I can tell you from personal experience that mold SUCKS. Try to keep it under 40 during flower.
Hi M J,

You are spot on, my friend. I need more RH. :mrgreen: I am looking into remedies for that now.....
 

Stoney Jake

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I just picked up a humidifier at target for $19.99 its uses hot mist and raises the temps just to give you a heads up. Im not sure but someone told me there is a cold humidifier that doesnt raise the temps but I didnt see it
 
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