My first grow journal(CFL) 12/12 from seed.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 1, 2010

I finally got some shots of the buds. These buds are super dense I guess I was keeping a good light proximety to foliage, and the Co2 probably helped keep them dense. Got them in a drawer with a fan on low pointed at them.

wowisuckatthis · Mar 1, 2010

IgrowUgrow said:
I finally got some shots of the buds. These buds are super dense I guess I was keeping a good light proximety to foliage, and the Co2 probably helped keep them dense. Got them in a drawer with a fan on low pointed at them.

they look nice man. try hanging them upside down in a cardboard box with that fan pointed at them next time.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 1, 2010

They are hanging upside down, what is the diffrence between a cabinet drawer, and a cardboard box besides cardboard boxes are prone to get mold spores because they hold moisture. The drawer is light proof and is really the only place I had to put them, besides I though dry, cold, dark, ventilated areas are best, and that is what that drawer is, but no harm not trying to argue over a drawer lol.

wowisuckatthis · Mar 1, 2010

IgrowUgrow said:
They are hanging upside down, what is the diffrence between a cabinet drawer, and a cardboard box besides cardboard boxes are prone to get mold spores because they hold moisture. The drawer is light proof and is really the only place I had to put them, besides I though dry, cold, dark, ventilated areas are best, and that is what that drawer is, but no harm not trying to argue over a drawer lol.

hehe i didnt see that they were hanging, just figured there wasnt room to hang them in a drawer, ive used the cardboard box method a few times and as long as you vent them for an hour or so every day you wont get mold. but as long as they hangin u good.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 2, 2010

yea its a pretty big drawer, like a foot deep I think or more.

KayAreOEnnEyeSee · Mar 2, 2010

IgrowUgrow said:
yea its a pretty big drawer, like a foot deep I think or more.

A quick fix for hangers in your drawer would be some thumb tacks and some fishing line or thin wire. Simple, easy, effective... just a thought. Great job on the grow. Keep up the good work.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 2, 2010

KayAreOEnnEyeSee said:
A quick fix for hangers in your drawer would be some thumb tacks and some fishing line or thin wire. Simple, easy, effective... just a thought. Great job on the grow. Keep up the good work.

Thanks anyways but I used some really sticky pad things to hold some nylon thread tight and hung the bud on that.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 2, 2010

The Cheesel is really getting fat, I checked them last night and I swear it is growing like a gram a day now, everyday the buds get a half-inch taller and half-inch wider. The smell is overwelming in the grow cabinet but that activated carbon filter I made keeps the smell out of my room and in the cabinet. The photos I took of the Cheesel dont do it justice, this is the baddest looking bud I have every seen, the smell is OMG unbelievable, I cant wait until it is all dryed and cured. I changed my mind about the cure time with the Cheesel because I didnt think it was going to be this good, so I am going to give it a 6 week cure instead of 3 weeks.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 3, 2010

I had already started flushing the Cheesel when it still has 3-4 weeks left to flower and I dont know why. I guess I thought the Cheesel would be done at 8 weeks flowering well its not going to be, I think it needs at least 10 weeks total. I got my bio bizz samples today, I actually forgot I requested a sample, because I requested them 4 months ago. I got 2 of each, Bio grow, Bio Bloom, and Bio Heaven. I will be using the bio bloom and Bio heaven for the next 2 weeks or until 1 week before harvest. The Cheesel has not had any bloom nutes besides the bone meal so I will see how it reacts to the half strength. I gave the Cheesel 8ml of bio bloom and 4ml of bio heaven in a 2litre soda bottle with distilled water.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 4, 2010

I tried my sample of the Cheesel today, it took 3 days to completly dry out and the end weight of the little Cheesel sample was .4g, I cured it for 24hrs and I just smoked a bowl of it, I am so stoned right now, real strong head high, I feel kinda dizzy and heavy headed. It was real smooth, tasted like sour cheese, and grass if it was to be cured 6 weeks like Im going to cure the other buds from the Cheesel plant it wouldnt have a grassy taste at all.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 7, 2010

Ok the Cheesel is becoming completely amazing and making me wish I would have taken a couple of clones off it. The smell is so dank, I had a friend over today that smokes weed and he asked," Have you been smoking some killer without me". I had just opened the door to grow cab about 1hr before he got here and it still smelled like dank in my room when he left later on. Anyway hope you guys/girls enjoy, I still forgot to give a size comparison, the buds on Cheesel are about 3 1/2 tall and the two biggest are like 2" wide. As you can see the crystals are all over this girl. Oh yea almost forgot the surprise, I have 8 new additions to the family. You can only see 5 seedlings in the photos but there are 8, 3 of them are just above the dirt with seed shell still on. They are all bagseed and I have no clue how good or what type they are, they are for my outdoor this season, just getting them established indoor. :leaf:

wowisuckatthis · Mar 7, 2010

looks amazing man, cant wait to hear a smoke report on her.

ireaddd · Mar 8, 2010

that's crazy man, really good job. have you been using that molasses? cause if so I need to next time.. can't wait to see how that weighs out

IgrowUgrow · Mar 8, 2010

wowisuckatthis said:
looks amazing man, cant wait to hear a smoke report on her.

I cant wait to smoke her, but I have already promised myself a 4-6 week cure for my lady. I already posted a smoke report on a popcorn cut and dried with no cure from my Cheesel.

ireaddd said:
that's crazy man, really good job. have you been using that molasses? cause if so I need to next time.. can't wait to see how that weighs out

I have been using kinda of a mixture, I water with plain water, next watering I use Bio bloom/Bio heaven, next I use Botanicare sweet grape, then molasses and start the cycle over and over again. I have to water every 2-3 days so, I give them nutes every 6-8 days. The molasses and sweet grape are both carbo loaders, it mainly increases aroma, and quality of finished product and some say increases trichomes, and bud size. Well I used molasses for my flowering nutes up until I got bio bizz and I think it worked fine, not good enough but it worked good.

8ml Bio bloom/4 ml of Bio Heaven, and 15ml of botanicare sweet grape, 12ml of molasses. These measurements are for 1 gallon jugs each except the bio bloom/bio heaven they can be mixed together.

Pipe Dream · Mar 8, 2010

Not the prettiest plants but some dank none the less. I might advise you to stay away from that MGOC, I had some problems with it in the past. At least try to wait for a couple weeks before transplanting in to it as it's pretty strong with nutes I believe. Try getting a cool mist humidifier it might be able to raise your humididty and drop your temps it's worked pretty well for me.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 8, 2010

Pipe Dream said:
Not the prettiest plants but some dank none the less. I might advise you to stay away from that MGOC, I had some problems with it in the past. At least try to wait for a couple weeks before transplanting in to it as it's pretty strong with nutes I believe. Try getting a cool mist humidifier it might be able to raise your humididty and drop your temps it's worked pretty well for me.

Well I agree the MGOC did not work as I hoped it would, I think it was the reason for the dying leaves on my harvested bagseed, and my Cheesel. The only reason why they are not pretty is because they dont have very many leaves and dead leaves are from it being late in flower. Other than that there is nothing wrong with my plants, the Cheesel is growing everyday at an unbelievable rate. I smelled them last night, just by lightly squeezing the bud and the aroma that exited the bud about made me harvest last night lol. They are very dank I am glad you noticed how FROSTY she has become, and by harvest on March 20th she will look like a snow ball.

SeanIzen · Mar 9, 2010

Just stating a couple facts that would help out to make better weed.
1) All plants go through a veg stage. if the lights are on 12/12 great but the plant is still producing dominantly veg hormones until it sexs and begins flowering.
2) That being said no matter 12/12 or 18/6 a new plant will always benefit from blue lights and all the way through flowering. Adding one or 2 6500k bulbs would have promoted better growth and less stretching.
3)The light color will dictate a plants health, the schedule of the light dictates it stage of growth.
I am also growing 12/12 from seed and have been using an 85w 5000k bulb and they are lovin it. the lights are still only on for 12hrs and off for 12hrs. The light schedule is what the whole secrete to growing 12/12 from seed as it promotes the earliest sexing possible. Consider buying 2 blues to use only until they have shown sex then go full red. Or keep the blues in because a plant gets blue light in the fall anyways.. just a little less of it.

IgrowUgrow · Mar 10, 2010

SeanIzen said:
Just stating a couple facts that would help out to make better weed.
1) All plants go through a veg stage. if the lights are on 12/12 great but the plant is still producing dominantly veg hormones until it sexs and begins flowering.
2) That being said no matter 12/12 or 18/6 a new plant will always benefit from blue lights and all the way through flowering. Adding one or 2 6500k bulbs would have promoted better growth and less stretching.
3)The light color will dictate a plants health, the schedule of the light dictates it stage of growth.
I am also growing 12/12 from seed and have been using an 85w 5000k bulb and they are lovin it. the lights are still only on for 12hrs and off for 12hrs. The light schedule is what the whole secrete to growing 12/12 from seed as it promotes the earliest sexing possible. Consider buying 2 blues to use only until they have shown sex then go full red. Or keep the blues in because a plant gets blue light in the fall anyways.. just a little less of it.

If you would have read the whole thread you would notice I do have 2 6500k 27w CFLs in there, I had no stretching at all not even when they started flowering. I wish I wouldnt have done 12/12 from seed because the plant stayed the same size as it was in veg. I could have vegged it for 4-6 weeks and still had room in the cabinet. When they started off vegging they had no nutes at all, I didnt feed the bone meal until they showed sex. So before you post in my Journal how about read next time, so you dont make yourself sound stupid. I apprecieate the advise, but trust me I know just about all there is to know about lights and plant growth, I am on RIU everyday reading and studying so I have pretty much got it down pat.

SeanIzen · Mar 11, 2010

okay man chill out i read through the first 5 pages and even saw that someone gave you that exact same advice and you shot them down trying to make them look dumb for trying to help. Good luck

IgrowUgrow · Mar 11, 2010

I am just trying if you would have read the thread, you would have noticed I already got those bulbs so you just gave me advise I already had and I already accepted that advise and got the 6500k bulbs. I did not shoot them down I simply explained that blue spectrum was not required, but I know it helps with leaf color and leaf loss at the end of flowering. It is also the Ideal spectrum for vegitative growth. My seedlings I just started will not be inside long, it is now getting close to summer and in a few weeks I will put them outside. If the deer, or bugs dont kill them I should get a great harvest because the plants will veg from now until sometime in august or begginning of september.

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