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Babs34

Babs34

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Survolte said:
thanks for the sugar tip... I think Im just going to use a little sugar in the water I can't use molassas because it would fuck up my aero system. Thanks alot tho. I hope I can make my super lemon haze taste like lemon drops. That would be soooo0 bomb.
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Hey...I just dropped in briefly and read a few posts. I don't proclaim to be the "expert grower".....however, I have experimented with bud taste, and it works. Try for yourself and see. In the last 2 weeks of flowering, I use my favorite tea infusion, depending on what taste I want for the particular strain. People can mock it all they wish...won't hurt my feelings. It worked for me...very well in fact. I used a moderate amount of honey. The plant sucks it up profusely in the end and really does affect the taste. Last time I used a predominately maple/vanilla taste....bud was smooth and tasted awesome. Naturally, I did a complete flush at the end. It did not hurt my plant at all. Now, I also did not reveg this plant. I think it safe to assume I may have gunked up the root system, hmm....maybe not?
 
Babs34

Babs34

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Phewwwwww.......damn, just peeked at your pictures. One word: YUM.
I thought I saw somewhere that you were growing blueberry too? Can anyone tell me what kind of high it gives? It was not one of my first choices to grow. Input on what I can expect from the buzz would help. In advance, thanks.
 
Survolte

Survolte

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Babs34 said:
Hey...I just dropped in briefly and read a few posts. I don't proclaim to be the "expert grower".....however, I have experimented with bud taste, and it works. Try for yourself and see. In the last 2 weeks of flowering, I use my favorite tea infusion, depending on what taste I want for the particular strain. People can mock it all they wish...won't hurt my feelings. It worked for me...very well in fact. I used a moderate amount of honey. The plant sucks it up profusely in the end and really does affect the taste. Last time I used a predominately maple/vanilla taste....bud was smooth and tasted awesome. Naturally, I did a complete flush at the end. It did not hurt my plant at all. Now, I also did not reveg this plant. I think it safe to assume I may have gunked up the root system, hmm....maybe not?
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did you use that at the end or during the whole grow? Plus I cant use things like honey or molassass I dont think.... Im going to grow aero and I think it would gunk up my pump / sprayers.
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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I'm not sure if it'll gunk it up or not...

You can definately use apple juice, and cranberry juice, get the no sugar added organic kind... It can be from concentrate just no sugar added...


Other sugars you can use... Expensive- pure maple syrup (not the flavored corn syrup bullshit)

Honey...

Raw cane extract...

Molasses...

Sucanat...

Any organic simplified variation of sugar, complex carbohydrates found in refined sugars can't be absorbed by the plant.



Some may argue that no sugars are directly absorbed, but those few have never tried it...



You can't force you weed to have a certain flavor



You can only enhance the existing flavor within the genetics... So, survolte, if it is going to taste like a lemon drop, it will... Nothing you do can change that.




I also wanted to make a point that resin production is a major factor in flavor, if the weed isn't resinous, there aren't the essential oils that make it taste and smell delicious...


The smell comes from the oils, the oils are in the trichromes...



Make sense?



Larfy weed with low resin tastes like grass...
 
Survolte

Survolte

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MrHowardMarks said:
I'm not sure if it'll gunk it up or not...

You can definately use apple juice, and cranberry juice, get the no sugar added organic kind... It can be from concentrate just no sugar added...


Other sugars you can use... Expensive- pure maple syrup (not the flavored corn syrup bullshit)

Honey...

Raw cane extract...



Molasses...

Sucanat...

Any organic simplified variation of sugar, complex carbohydrates found in refined sugars can't be absorbed by the plant.



Some may argue that no sugars are directly absorbed, but those few have never tried it...



You can't force you weed to have a certain flavor



You can only enhance the existing flavor within the genetics... So, survolte, if it is going to taste like a lemon drop, it will... Nothing you do can change that.




I also wanted to make a point that resin production is a major factor in flavor, if the weed isn't resinous, there aren't the essential oils that make it taste and smell delicious...


The smell comes from the oils, the oils are in the trichromes...



Make sense?



Larfy weed with low resin tastes like grass...
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Thanks alot man great info. Im excited and I can't wait to get growin so I can start running my own tests on some of that stuff. gotta say thats the best info on flavor Ive ever heard. +rep fo sho

Im going to use a 400whps light with foxfarm nutes hopefully I will get lots of resin.
 
Babs34

Babs34

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Survolte, I only used it at the end. And, this was in a soil grow. I'm only just beginning to get into hydroponics, so I don't know if I'd try it again. Thanks...blueberry, stoney? I'll pass....I like the "up" buzz.
As for "changing" the taste, I wasn't attempting to do that. I was merely trying to complement it.....and indeed it did that.
 
Survolte

Survolte

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Babs34 said:
Survolte, I only used it at the end. And, this was in a soil grow. I'm only just beginning to get into hydroponics, so I don't know if I'd try it again. Thanks...blueberry, stoney? I'll pass....I like the "up" buzz.
As for "changing" the taste, I wasn't attempting to do that. I was merely trying to complement it.....and indeed it did that.
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sorry I forgot about the initial post... didnt mean to jack your thread >.<
 
Babs34

Babs34

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LOL, you're not jacking my thread...no need to apologize. If anything, I may have jacked Howards.....but somehow, I think he's over it. :-)
 
doogleef

doogleef

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Cheers guys. Thanks for the tips. Tallest plant is 12" today. That's double the size in 11 days of flower :shock:
Here's what I did:

Before


After




No signs of shock so far. :)

Thanks again!
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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Perfect job doogleef! Precisely what I'd have done.

The stretch looks like it's over, they'll probably finish out around 24"... The first week is called the stretch for good reason.

Survolte- I definately recommend the soluables (Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, ChaChing) they will get you the resin you want...
 
doogleef

doogleef

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Thanks guys! They are supposed to be a 7wk strain and 24" would be about perfect for my setup.

The medium is Higromite. It is a silica rock. http://www.higromite.com/

My local store actually does not carry it anymore and I need some more medium to fill in around the pots so I will probably just get some clay pellets.
 
floydfanx6

floydfanx6

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how often would u guys use the collosal bud blast,the plants like it for sure,i follow the recommended dose do it 2x a week about
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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I no longer use it, but yeah, 2 times a week is good, you can do it every other day... But that might be too much, or cause humidity problems...


You shouldn't use it past the first week of flowering... That is if I remember correctly...

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Survolte

Survolte

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MrHowardMarks said:
Perfect job doogleef! Precisely what I'd have done.

The stretch looks like it's over, they'll probably finish out around 24"... The first week is called the stretch for good reason.

Survolte- I definately recommend the soluables (Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz, ChaChing) they will get you the resin you want...
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oh. dam. I would have to use those on top of my other nutes huh? that sounds like a second grow for me I have a low budget Im going to put most of it into the 400w hps

Thanks a lot though. I am definitely going to get those as soon as I can.
 
floydfanx6

floydfanx6

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the plants love it,much vigoroous growth,,people dont like to foliar spray in flowering,on the buds but i think theres nothing wrong with using the cbb,its organic also
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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No, there's nothing wrong with it, but I believe it's not recommended that you use the Colossal BB past week two...

Oh and survolte, the soluable are 20 bucks per pound... So all of them cost 60 bucks or so... You can leave out the Open Sesame if anything...


Also, you'll have plenty enough for three maybe four or five grows for a small scale grow... I only went through about a half pound with my sized garden... So it lasts a long time... Great investment.
 
MrHowardMarks

MrHowardMarks

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I have friends that use botanicare... They have decent results but low resin content.

I'm happy with the resin amounts I have on my current grow.

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A slight update, the blueberries are almost completely swollen, and will be ready in about a week.

The super skunk clones are all rooting, already have 20 or so transplanted for the next round...

It's going to be so much easier and more productive having everything start at the same time, be the same size, and finish at the same time...

On top of that they are so short and stocky I'm going to be able to squeeze 9 more buckets in there, making a total of 9 per light with 3 in between the three rows, so a total of 63 buckets... A big endeavor, but I need to make it worth it, because I'm moving at the end of April.
 
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