MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.

Whats the wattage of those lights? If they are 600w+ you didn't need to clean up the plants so much, I know you say you have had many gardens, but I've done this to get the best WPG.

Nope I made homemade buckets... 5gal, airstones and net pots w/ hydroton.

They were working like they were supposed to, the FoxFarm stayed slime free...

The Advanced buckets got slimed with yeast... But outperformed the FoxFarm... I guess...

I chopped them down because they were the runts by far...


I don't think not having a chiller or anything was my problem, they didn't have any time at all really for veg, just a week... When roots popped outta the bottom of the net pots I switched the lights over...


Root growth was healthy, but plant growth was terrible, they did start to flower fairly well, but were to small to care about.

Besides, it only cost me like 15 bucks to make 9 of them... Good thing I only flowered 3, otherwise I'd be out a full light of plants...

Those are all 600Wers...

I did leave some underbrush before... But averaged the same yield...

It's more of a time consuming pain in the ass to trim small buds... That don't add up to much... So I trim them off and give a couple grams to the tops.

They get so crowded in there there's nothing but colas showing by the end.

well I'm still not sure about that concept myself, I usually do trim the bottoms for new cuts. But when I stake them up< I get bigger cola's because instead of all the power trying to support the cola's is gone and it works but when I do this I get real small stems which I think holds back from the nute uptake.. Idk? and then I've tried to make them super bushy and end up with thousands of buds but all are small. This run I plan on flowering at about three weeks into veg. So I have just a big cola at the top.. Im still kinda unsure though. I like the 4 way split and lolli popped style the best with topping just twice to make four domn.. cola's

MrHowardMarks said:

Those are all 600Wers...

I did leave some underbrush before... But averaged the same yield...

It's more of a time consuming pain in the ass to trim small buds... That don't add up to much... So I trim them off and give a couple grams to the tops.

They get so crowded in there there's nothing but colas showing by the end.

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I hear ya, I use 400 watters and put 30 plants in one gallon pots and clean them up like yours well maybe a little less, I get about an average of 3/4-oz per plant. I use to let them grow about 1'-1'6" then flower 9 in a 3*3 and get almost 2oz per plant, but I was using 2 gallon pots. I just dont understand why you would use 5 gallons and clean them up so much with 600 watters?

hydro is really fun I have one now that should yield me a qp + under a 400!

Peace and happy growing.

Yeah... Kinda on both those posts...


I find that the best you can do is determined by the light... The bushier the plant, the smaller the buds... And having like 100 buds that weigh a pound vs 20 buds that weigh a pound saves a lot of time in trimming...


I average a pound per light, sometimes more, sometimes less...


Having an even canopy will get you the best results regardless, being able to use the full power of the light and all...


And as far as the 5gal pots, the more root area the better, more surface area for nutrient uptake...




And master- do you use potassium silicate, or silica?

It raises the pH, so, adjustment is necessary, and you have to add it first, before any of the nutes...


It improves nutrient uptake acting as a catalyst, and also creates stronger cellular structure... IE... Thicker stronger stems...


But, even with that, in the last two weeks or so of flower, I still have to tie up my buds... I think it works better than staking.


I use mason line tied to the chain that suspends the hoods, looped around the colas and pulling them up towards the light...

Looks like a "puppet master" for buds after I'm through.

*** sigh ***

F*ck I Just used Protech for the first time this morning well I added 40 ml of problend flower, and 20 ml of tigerbloom, 20 ml of magi-cal, then 20 ml protech which is silica and It foamed up my in my measureing cup.. I know that did'nt look right.. what do you mean use first. I am using a res tank, I recycle all my nutes and use them for about a three day period. But I plan on doing a flush every week on sunday to flush out them salt build up.. Im confused How do I use it first. and why does it turn into gooey shit?

Yeah... That gooey shit happens as a reaction to the other shit in the water...

You have to add the silica first to avoid the goop-up.

I don't quite understand your "recycling" but when you mix up the nute to plain water add the protech first...

It's like adding acid to water... Vs water to acid... There's a right and wrong way...

It might say it on the bottle.


-What's the *sigh* for UserFriendly???

Not looking good enough for 20 days?

It's like watching the grass grow... Wait... It is watching the grass grow.

You got all those lights and no trees.

Sensi's Super Skunk supposedly has massive yield potential, like 3+ lbs/tree........ indo. I know Skunks like to branch out so much and i think that is where the weight is. Just hurts to see all that veg get trimmed off.

MrHowardMarks said:

You'll die too buddy...

Hard to judge what they'll finish like considering it's week three... But these looked about the same around this time...


Some finished product.

A little reminder of what's to come...

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Looks tasty as hell-----nice candy!!!-----great color/density/size. I can tell they got alot of love

Masterofgenetics said:

Aight I got you. I use a cup to measure my nutes in but I will add the protech first from now on. I mean recycle by, My whole system is meant for drip lines after it water's the plants whats left over collects into a res tray with air stones then I reuse it. For three days then it goes into my train wreck pot. I water three times a day right now because of the coco is so airy and doesn't hold any water. The bottom will stay wet but not the top, So once I fell I got a good root ball I will cut down on the water until heavy into flower.. Idk if that makes sense? does to me but Im a little off

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Why did you post those pics?-----I'm going to send MerryMaids and some bleach to ya. Not trying to be rude or negative but man---that's one filthy room---You're setting yourself up for failure.

DR. VonDankenstine said:

Why did you post those pics?-----I'm going to send MerryMaids and some bleach to ya. Not trying to be rude or negative but man---that's one filthy room---You're setting yourself up for failure.

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Yeah, everyone knows plants don't like dirt.

I wasn't trying to be negative at all----Pathogens/virus/mold spores/bacteria and other nasty stuff you don't want in your garden can multiply very fast and cause major problems--I'm sure the time you've put into your garden is valuable and I would hate to see you or anyone loose a crop. 10% bleach solution takes care of 99.99% of these problems with a regular schedule and a little elbow grease.

well I painted the room before hand It was a old shed that hasn't been used in probably 35+ years. I just moved out here to fix up the house so we can sell it I was only going to be here until about april. then Im moving And The last couple days I've done alot work in there. And this weekend I'm going to scrub the tray off that holds the bags

DR. VonDankenstine said:

I wasn't trying to be negative at all----Pathogens/virus/mold spores/bacteria and other nasty stuff you don't want in your garden can multiply very fast and cause major problems--I'm sure the time you've put into your garden is valuable and I would hate to see you or anyone loose a crop. 10% bleach solution takes care of 99.99% of these problems with a regular schedule and a little elbow grease.

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I think he was being sarcastic towards doc... But yeah, try and keep everything clean and tidy... All the dust getting kicked up has to land somewhere... I get the recycling, I forgot you were growing in coco coir...

Ever try AN Monkey Juice? I hear great things about it...



UserFriendly- those are the Blueberries and 9Miles that grew fricking huge... It's one way to tame a huge plant, and yes there are many...


I think if I were to ever bloom large plants like these again, I'd do it vertical instead of with the hoods... But cooling would be an issue, and I don't like having to fuck with massive plants...


The super skunks didn't get nearly as much stalking, and yes they are stocky as fuck, they could be mistaken for cabbage...

he was jokin....plants dont like dirt...soil hahaha funny
cause u said his room was "filthy" aka dirty....

and marks your gettin ripped on so hopefully your end product justifies your other pictures
personally i think they look fine just a little bare....but thats the idea i guess

Ha, beat you to the punch


I'm going outta town for the weekend, I'll be on here and there... But not all day. That's only while I'm at work.

i kno ya little bastard haha
you say skunk is your favourite strain, and well any skunk parented strain??
so whats your favourite marks

Favorite strain... it's had to tell...

How about 4...
Silver Pearl,
Super Silver Haze,
Somango,
Super Skunk...



I guess I like strains starting in "ess"

*Sour Diesel
*Sensi Star