MrHowardMarks' experienced grower journal.

I'm glad to help people grow better weed...

I was busy as hell today, setting up my permenant veg area, and finishing off the ventillation. Doesn't look like heat is going to be a problem, so I'm going to think about running a co2 generator.

I'll upload pics as soon as I can...

My veg area is on the bottom of a shelving unit I built. It's two shelves, 4 x 8 ft, basically a big ass box I'm gowing in, the top is 4.5 feet up, the bottom shelf is 6 inches off the ground.

I originally built it to conceal the room, having boxes on it, but it works out for the perfect veg area, as I was building it I was thinking it might be suitable, but clearance is only 4 ft, so I'll have to keep my mothers trimmed low.

Everythings coming along great, the clones I planted a few days ago are taking off, I'm guessing 2 weeks until flowering... I still have to fill up some space.

MrHowardMarks said:

I'm glad to help people grow better weed...

I was busy as hell today, setting up my permenant veg area, and finishing off the ventillation. Doesn't look like heat is going to be a problem, so I'm going to think about running a co2 generator.

I'll upload pics as soon as I can...

My veg area is on the bottom of a shelving unit I built. It's two shelves, 4 x 8 ft, basically a big ass box I'm gowing in, the top is 4.5 feet up, the bottom shelf is 6 inches off the ground.

I originally built it to conceal the room, having boxes on it, but it works out for the perfect veg area, as I was building it I was thinking it might be suitable, but clearance is only 4 ft, so I'll have to keep my mothers trimmed low.

Everythings coming along great, the clones I planted a few days ago are taking off, I'm guessing 2 weeks until flowering... I still have to fill up some space.

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check this bad boy out----------------
HydroGEN Water Cooled CO2 Generator

The HydroGEN is the world's first and only water cooled CO2 generator. Water cooling is capable of removing 86% of the heat produced by burning propane and has loads of other options and features not available in any other CO2 generator on the market, including a completely adjustable flame (can produce anywhere between 15 and 45 cubic feet of CO2 per hr), an adjustable water flow valve, no pilot light (flame is activated by water flow), a tipover cut off, an overheat shut down sensor, and the list goes on. The unit can easily be used in a closed-loop system with a small chiller and reservoir, or you can connect directly to your home water supply and drain to storage for reuse in your garden. The unit is compact in size and can be either hung or wall-mounted anywhere in your garden.
***Coming soon the "MiniGEN" water-cooled CO2 generator, designed for smaller enclosures***

That is FN awesome! I want one! What a cool idea.

Yeah, if you're having heat problems, it's definately the way to go... I think they're a lot more expensive, and unless you have floor drains you'll have to set up a recirculating resevoir, or a drain to waste somehow...

"Wanna cool down a generator" is what the designers thought... "Let's add water"

They must be car guys, I'm supprised there isn't a built in pump and radiator.

Mr marks my clones are still firm,going on 6 days and no roots visible though.Leaves still look good too.Maybe its this cold spell????????I can still see the hairs on them too.I hope i didnt waste all that time for nothing.The Mother is back in full veg so i can take more if i fucked up!!!!!

MrHowardMarks said:

Yeah, if you're having heat problems, it's definately the way to go... I think they're a lot more expensive, and unless you have floor drains you'll have to set up a recirculating resevoir, or a drain to waste somehow...

"Wanna cool down a generator" is what the designers thought... "Let's add water"

They must be car guys, I'm supprised there isn't a built in pump and radiator.

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The nice thing is brother------They cost less----are built well----put out more co2 than 99.9% other units----can use a small aquarium pump and 7 gallon bucket. Can be run by almost all controllers.--can be run in the flowering room or outside in another room---the best part is they are under 400.00 retail.

Not bad... I was figuring they were around 500. Do you have one doc?


-Hydrotech, as long as they still look good, everything is gravy... It usually takes 10 days to root for me.

Ok so a 7gl bucket, an aquarium pump, and 400, and you can have a nice ass co2 generator. I assume you have to use propane too, does it take a bottle for like a camping stove, or a big tank? You said that it can be used outside the room, does that mean that you can hook tubing to it to channel the co2?

Also do you have a link to the actual company, cus the "minigen", would prolly be plenty for my tent.

Most generators take a 20 pound tank, like for a propane grill, you can also use the bigger ones that are found in RVs and campers. Also there is most likely a natural gas version, it has different burner tips that allow use of natural gas...

For a tent, I'd recommend a tank system, it's a small enough area, and a generator might be overkill.

Also, generators are designed for greenhouses, and large areas, and aren't supposed to be used indoors.

Another thing- - - if you're using a generator indoors, get a carbon monoxide detector for your living area, you don't want to wake up dead... You'll want to vent the growroom air outside for this reason.

question for you sir! so my brothers plants are at like week seven of flowering and we were wondering when to cut off nutes and flush and feew with just regular ph'd water?

Looking good brother looking good are those pics of your veg room or your flower

Brsouthside- it depends on the strain, some indicas are done at 45-50 days, and sativas 70 days.

When they are looking close to finished,(they've plumped up, and there isn't much new pistol growth) start the flushing process. It isn't as important with organics, or if your feeding is light... But it will give it a better cure and less harsh of a burn.

On the other hand, if it was grown ideally, a flush in my personal opinion isn't very necessary. I've had some outstanding weed that was fed up til the day of harvest, it was fed lightly, and was given the perfect conditions, and cured well. You'd never know it wasn't flushed properly.

That was with the entire Advanced Nutrients 2+ regiment with all of the beneficials, connisseur, all the hornby additives...

---GroDro---
The room pictured is my flowering room, they are just vegging in there for the time being, space is an issue.

Things are doing great, I'll upload some pics tomorrow or monday, I think I'm going to be ready to switch to 12/12 by the end of the week... I might wanna veg the youngsters out another week... I need a bigger veg area

I also need to get that damn 125W daylight CFL bulb...



I got everything for week one and two, havent bought the beastie budz or chaching yet, going to need probably two more liters of tiger bloom.

I bought the 5gal of Big Bloom, hope it's enough, by my calculations, it's enough to make 640 gallons...

I also got the Open Sesame... Big suprise when I opened it up and it looks almost identical to Advanced Nutrients Bud Blood, which costs a shitload more, but by the doseage is more concentrated... So maybe it isn't that much more.

Shit looks like some kind of crystalized red meth or something... I bet if you had it in a baggie and some cops found it you'd definately be in lock-up while they figured out what the fuck it was and if you were going the use it for drugs, terrorism, who the fuck knows... Keep that shit in a labeled package.

thanks i appreciate the help+rep

No problem man...

Nice new avatar, MHM.

yea the avatar kicks ass bro!

I was trying to get 5 p's per 4X8 tray with 2 1,000w hps

I appreciate the help. My friend has the same strain as I do (bubba kush) He told me to do 12 plants per tray and veg for 2 months. I can veg in a seperate room so i will get harvest every 60 days.

He said he can get about 3+ pounds.

Should I try this??

I was thinking of getting twice the trays i have (4) to ( and putting the same amount of light (8 1,000w hps) with twice the trays.

Would this be stupid??

THANKX!!!

Thank's I like my new avatar too

- George Lopez -
Getting 5 pounds from two 1000s is possible, but you'd have to have the perfect conditions and a real production strain... I don't think you can do it, I'd shoot for three pounds, but you'll most likely end up with two... Sorry to burst your bubble...

A good estimate is a half gram per watt, so a pound per light is average, getting a gram per watt is really good, and that would put you at 2 pounds 3 ounces per 1000W...

Sure if you can afford eight 1000W lights, go for it, but if you're not extrenely experienced, I'd start with two lights, and hone in on the technique.

But yeah, your buddy gets three pounds from 2 1000Ws, that's about average, don't hope for 5.