itsmehigh
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Kudos, a well thought out and intelligent post. Thanks for taking the time and effort. I feel how I feel, I feel that the Emories are becoming irrelevant, at this point in time they are cashing in on their entitled piece of the pie, that doesn't make them hero's in my book. They pushed the envelope too far and are now facing the consequences. They knew what the consequence were, and I don't think for 1 sec. that they are now doing it for the people or the cause, they are solely looking after their best interest, and I'm not judging them on that. They just don't get my sympathy.There's a lot to unpack from what you've said in this thread, but this is just not correct. CCHQ in Vancouver was raided, so probably the first thing you should do is get your facts straight.
Re 'There are more important things', that's a fallacy of relative privation. This is a non-argument.
Re 'They should just wait', this is the same thing Rifici is currently saying. Legalization is not happening in a few months. A reasonable estimate is 2019. Waiting ensures that the joke of a medical system is the only model the public will see, Marc and Jodie's biggest win here is showing the public just how easy legalization can be. Some of the CC stores re-opened the day of the raids, so what has the TPS accomplished, besides wasting taxpayers money.
Re 'I'm going to do what I want', that's great for you, however maintaining that position and being negative towards people who are actually putting themselves on the line gives you no legs to stand on. Marc and Jodie are possibly looking at life in prison, so understand the risks they are taking, and that it is far more than you apparently are.
Re 'The courts took down the MMPR', CCHQ heavily promoted the Allard case via Pot TV, so saying they've done nothing for medical is also not correct.
I don't agree with everything Marc and Jodie do, but it seems like every time they run into trouble with the law, armchair activists come out of the woodwork to say how they should not have broken the law. Civil disobedience has always been about pushing boundaries. When the first vapour lounges (run by Chris and Erin, who were also charged) came out, swift police action happened, and plenty of people were also casting aspersions about how brazen they were, how they deserved jail, etc. Now vapour lounges are a staple, both in BC and out East.
Civil disobedience is not about doing something safe, or complying with authority, it is all about pushing boundaries. So judge them however you want, but you are most certainly not doing it from the moral high-ground. I hate to break it to you, but activism is also about getting in the public eye. Occupying MP's offices doesn't really do much if the story never gets out and government officials don't have to deal with the backlash.
Prohibition pricing is what it is, and dispensaries can be rightfully criticized for their high prices. However, that swings both ways, Dana Larsen donated to the Allard case. Keep in mind running a dispensary pretty much means you have to be able to afford legal fees / be prepared to be raided, so it's not as simple as just saying they should sell everything at cost.
The government already had their chance to show good faith by doing something about cannabis arrests, and they have refused, however if you want to place trust in someone that's slapping you in the face, go right ahead.
Re. Only CCHQ was raided not the stores, and they left cannabis.
Re."fallacy of relative privation". had to look that up, nice words brainiac. Cannabis is low on my radar currently, I'm far more worried on the state of other things currently. I think that there are far bigger issues than cannabis legalization at the moment.
Re. waiting, what's wrong with waiting to establish a level playing field for all? They probably blew their chance on a legitimate business now, they may be Black listed. How has that gotten them any farther ahead? That makes them dumb in my book. I can wait.
Re. Doing what I want. I'm just not a "look at me" kinda guy, I've broken the law for over 30 years, and supported many patients and activists. Just because I'm not on TV doesn't mean I'm not grass roots.
Re. Allard case. You know how many people lined their pockets with donation money? It turned into a business. What a circus it turned into. I supported it in the beginning when it meant something.
Itsme.