Most important thread ever...Your attention please. Help needed.

[Bubba's girl]

I sent my list of former politicians and cops now in the LP scam to a bunch more outlets, including CP24 and the Canadian Taxpayer's federation. I cc'd Justin and Uncle Bill. This needs to blow up NOW or it'll be too late.
For those who haven't seen the list...read this and get angry.....
Chuck Rifici, is currently the CFO of the Liberal Party of Canada.

* founder and former CEO of Tweed

Mark Zekulin, CEO of Tweed

• former senior adviser to former Ontario finance minister Dwight Duncan

Norman Inkster, Independent Director at Mettrum

• former head of the RCMP

Dr. Joshua Tepper, Independent Director at Mettrum

• formerly Assistant Deputy Minister at the Ministry of Health , Senior Medical Officer for Health Canada,

Tom Shipley, Director of Quality Assurance, Tweed

• formerly worked on toxicology research, while at Health Canada,

Mike Harcourt, Chairman of True Leaf Medicine Inc

• former B.C. Premier

Kash Heed, strategic consultant with National Green BioMed

• Former B.C. Solicitor General and former West Vancouver police chief

Herb Dhaliwal, Chairman, National Green BioMed

• former Vancouver MP and federal cabinet minister.

John Turner, medicinal marijuana applicant in Ontario (With Kash Heed)

• Former Prime Minister of Canada

Mr. Belot, Board of Directors for Aurora

• was a public servant in several ministries within the Ontario government

Brian Wagner, Company founder and CEO NHP Consulting (consults for prospective LP's)

• Brian was invited to play a strong role in Health Canada’s Program Advisory Committee

Tim Humberstone, ABcann Director / Senior Person in Charge

• former twenty year member of the RCMP included roles in Municipal/Federal Drug Enforcement and with the Joint Forces Organized Crime Agency. Tim has also received extensive training by the RCMP in providing expert court opinion in the fields of cannabis trafficking and production techniques .

Ivan Vrana, founder of Aslan Ross Consulting / speaker mmpr summit

• Previously Mr. Vrána worked for the Federal Government for over 15 years. He worked at the Patented Medicine Prices Review Board, Finance Canada and in various senior policy positions at Health Canada. At Health Canada he was in charge of the team that developed the policy rationale which led to the implementation of the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations.Mr. Vrána is also a regular Lecturer at both Carleton and Concordia universities and teaches a course that examines the internal communication tools governments use to development and implement public policy.

Sandy Pratt, Chief Financial Officer, Emerald Health

• Worked at Deloitte ( auditing firm involved in the senate scandal), Vice President of Business Development and Executive Financial Officer of the Royal British Columbia Museum, a Crown corporation.

Shane Morris, VP, Scientific Affairs and Stakeholder Relations Hydropothecary CEO (now Canadian Cannabis Corp.)

• Since 2000, Shane has been in a range of leadership roles within the Federal Government, from Treasury Board of Canada’s senior advisor (Cabinet Operations) on regulatory affairs to director of policy leadership and Reporting for Resources Canada’s major projects management office.

George Smitherman, THC BioMed

former Ontario Liberal deputy premier

• more than 30 years to public policy fields at the Municipal, Provincial and Federal Level, where roles as Senior Advisor, Minister of Energy and Infrastructure and Ontario’s Minister of Health were held

Jake Ryan, Director of Security: Tilray
* former RCMP Intelligence Officer and federal criminal investigator overseeing all aspects of Tilray's security protocols and operations.

Ernie Eves, Chairman, Timeless Herbal Care — a Jamaican medical marijuana company.

• former Progressive Conservative premier of Ontario

Kim Derry, a promoter of marijuana facility THC Meds Ontario Inc.

• deputy chief of the Toronto Police Service under Mr. Blair,

John Reynolds, advisor to Vodis Innovative Pharmaceuticals Inc

• former MP with the Progressive Conservative, Reform and Canadian Alliance parties

Senator Larry Campbell, advisor to Vodis Innovative Pharmaceuticals Inc.

• former Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer and Vancouver mayor. And sitting Senator...

Barry Daniel, Wildflower’s head of security

• Former Abbotsford police chief.

Cam Battley, Aurora Senior Vice President, Communications and Medical Affairs

• Former Legislative Assistant to the Canadian Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs, where he was responsible for developing legislation and steering it through the House of Commons, as well as negotiating with Opposition parties and stakeholder groups.

Wow this truly does call for major media attention.

 

[WHATFG]

Imo, there are far more deserving activist that don't whore themselves out to the media. The true activists don't need fame or fortune. The Emories are small fish when it comes to true activist who stood by patients when they needed help. Remember the Emories never fought for med use, they always positioned themselves towards rec.

Itsme.

That's fine...they didn't tout themselves as supporting medical....I agree that they are attention whores...

 

[itsmehigh]

Yes the retail stores are WAY too high I agree with you there. Emery's included. But he is pushing the right buttons imo to get this moved forward. Once the storefronts get established the consumer will dictate pricing. Then the prices will lower. That's the game the lp's are gonna have to play too. Lots of competition is what's good for the consumer once legal.
The LP's will get a huge eye opening if this is allowed to be sold without a bias toward them. They will be in big trouble as i can sell for less than they can....to my local INDEPENDENT store...that's the way it should be. I'll settle for nothing less than a free model for all players. Otherwise expect civil unrest.
I like that Cannabis culture is scaring them enough to act this way...shows we are right to me.

I don't think that trafficking hundreds of pound obtained in the black/grey markets across provincial boarders and making 10's if not 100's of thousands of dollars is going to make things better for them or us. I can see the legislation restricting people with criminal records in owning storefronts. They just screwed themselves. They were doing just fine in their safe haven of Vancouver. They got greedy and pissed of the TPD and are now paying the price. I highly doubt that the liberal gov had anything to do with the bust, it's all on the Toronto PD. otherwise they would have busted the 5 CC stores in BC too, once you start trafiking across provincial boarders and open a dozen storefronts, the popo take notice, and you are considered a criminal enterprise or organized crime. This doesn't help the cause imo.

Itsme.

 

[doingdishes]

i am not a fan of theirs but they are pushing the limits and I am for that.
yes they want to make a profit and are overcharging but the market will dictate what they can charge. if a guy down the block sells quality of $7 instead of heir $14, prices will go down. even in Washington the prices have come more down to earth. when we went it was $100 for a damn eighth!!! now i hear they are a lot lower. that will happen here.
i would love to see legalization and hope it comes soon but I want the medical thing sorted out before i truly care about the rec market.

 

[gb123]

you know it wouldnt be hard for a few small guys to keep a 100 or so D's goin
24/7
365

no issue...so where is the organized crime in that?

 

[itsmehigh]

you know it wouldnt be hard for a few small guys to keep a 100 or so D's goin
24/7
365

no issue...so where is the organized crime in that?

The transportation over provincial Boarders and organizing a network of distributing across a country. Don't get confused with gangs and organized crime. They are organized and are committing a crime.

Itsme.

 

[gb123]

The transportation over provincial Boarders and organizing a network of distributing across a country. Don't get confused with gangs and organized crime. They are organized and are committing a crime.

Itsme.

like our newly formed Government lol

 

[itsmehigh]

like our newly formed Government lol

No doubt, the RCMP are the biggest criminal gang out there. The gov. Isn't too far behind them. We are still lucky to call ourselves Canadian, we afford many freedoms that most the planet don't get to enjoy. I'm still proud to call my self Canadian.

Itsme.

 

[gb123]

just gotta work some kinks out is all

 

[itsmehigh]

just gotta work some kinks out is all

Absolutely, you can't please all the people all the time. Just think that some citizens are 100% against legalization, they have that right, and I respect that they have a right of freedom of opinion. Just don't infringe on my rights. Same goes with religion, don't treat me like a second class citizen because I don't believe in your god.

Itsme.

 

[gb123]

http://globalnews.ca/news/3305417/marc-jodie-emery-marijuana-arrest-dispensary-raids/?sf62007973=1

 

[bcbreeder]

I remember meeting Marc around 94, he had been recently busted for selling seeds,
Ian Hunter played on his early mac laptop as we chatted in his hempbc office
I also read all the gossip in the day, Marc the Narc, threatening to rat badmouthing customers

In the end though where have all the "activists" turned up.

Marc is still Marc hes an "activist" and needs lots of money to feed the family

Hillary Black who I also met back then had just started one of the first dispensaries yet today
she's a corporate shill for Bedrocan (still calls herself an activist though)

Phil Loucas who founded the vics compassion society and used to run campaigns of ridiccule against the government shake produced in the mine WORKS FOR PRO PESTICIDE SCUM TILRAY

I guess on the balance of facts emery wins, doesn't mean he isn't pro making money off weed
at least he doesn't work for the other side, he works for the emery brand

 

[CalyxCrusher]

That list is solid outside of "
Tom Shipley, Director of Quality Assurance, Tweed

• formerly worked on toxicology research, while at Health Canada,"

This guy was a lab rat at HC, which is about as politically connected as working at a timmies in Ottawa (possibly less so).

Sounds like somehing Tom Shipley would say, nice try Tom. Lol I kid I kid

 

[CalyxCrusher]

I don't think that trafficking hundreds of pound obtained in the black/grey markets across provincial boarders and making 10's if not 100's of thousands of dollars is going to make things better for them or us

This statement TO THE LETTER applies to LPs and how they started. All too ironic no?

 

[JungleStrikeGuy]

otherwise they would have busted the 5 CC stores in BC too

There's a lot to unpack from what you've said in this thread, but this is just not correct. CCHQ in Vancouver was raided, so probably the first thing you should do is get your facts straight.

Re 'There are more important things', that's a fallacy of relative privation. This is a non-argument.

Re 'They should just wait', this is the same thing Rifici is currently saying. Legalization is not happening in a few months. A reasonable estimate is 2019. Waiting ensures that the joke of a medical system is the only model the public will see, Marc and Jodie's biggest win here is showing the public just how easy legalization can be. Some of the CC stores re-opened the day of the raids, so what has the TPS accomplished, besides wasting taxpayers money.

Re 'I'm going to do what I want', that's great for you, however maintaining that position and being negative towards people who are actually putting themselves on the line gives you no legs to stand on. Marc and Jodie are possibly looking at life in prison, so understand the risks they are taking, and that it is far more than you apparently are.

Re 'The courts took down the MMPR', CCHQ heavily promoted the Allard case via Pot TV, so saying they've done nothing for medical is also not correct.

I don't agree with everything Marc and Jodie do, but it seems like every time they run into trouble with the law, armchair activists come out of the woodwork to say how they should not have broken the law. Civil disobedience has always been about pushing boundaries. When the first vapour lounges (run by Chris and Erin, who were also charged) came out, swift police action happened, and plenty of people were also casting aspersions about how brazen they were, how they deserved jail, etc. Now vapour lounges are a staple, both in BC and out East.

Civil disobedience is not about doing something safe, or complying with authority, it is all about pushing boundaries. So judge them however you want, but you are most certainly not doing it from the moral high-ground. I hate to break it to you, but activism is also about getting in the public eye. Occupying MP's offices doesn't really do much if the story never gets out and government officials don't have to deal with the backlash.

Prohibition pricing is what it is, and dispensaries can be rightfully criticized for their high prices. However, that swings both ways, Dana Larsen donated to the Allard case. Keep in mind running a dispensary pretty much means you have to be able to afford legal fees / be prepared to be raided, so it's not as simple as just saying they should sell everything at cost.

The government already had their chance to show good faith by doing something about cannabis arrests, and they have refused, however if you want to place trust in someone that's slapping you in the face, go right ahead.

 

[BobCajun]

Bob...you need to learn what needs to be done to change bad laws...
dummy up..
..

What bad laws, the ones where you can't have a weed store without a permit? Yeah that's pretty egregious. Anyway, their lives. If they like jail that's their business. Seems a little odd but there's plenty of odd people around.

 

[gb123]

What bad laws, the ones where you can't have a weed store without a permit? Yeah that's pretty egregious.

prohibition control over harmless plant
cant understand why people cannot see such things that are easily seen
unless greed gets in the way

 

[BobCajun]

prohibition control over harmless plant

So why aren't they opening up unlicensed wine stores too? Weed is actually far from harmless. You just haven't investigated the negative effects of THC thoroughly. It suppresses the immune system. A valid argument could be made that it's a menace to public health.

 

[VIANARCHRIS]

So why aren't they opening up unlicensed wine stores too? Weed is actually far from harmless. You just haven't investigated the negative effects of THC thoroughly. It suppresses the immune system. A valid argument could be made that it's a menace to public health.

How is that even an argument? The dispensaries in Vancouver and some other BC cities are licensed. The problem is Ottawa is pandering to the LP's which happen to be controlled by their old boys club. I could get a license and open a brewery, pub and beer store or a vineyard, winery and wine store tomorrow if I had the will and financial means. Not so for cannabis now and if Chucky gets his way, the average Canadian will never have the opportunity to be involved.
As for harms...they are minute when compared to tobacco or alcohol and are about on par with caffeine. I'm not looking for a free-for-all with legalization, but I also won't accept any stricter control than what works for (the far more dangerous) alcohol or tobacco. I can buy either in a variety of locations or I can produce my own.

 

[gb123]

So why aren't they opening up unlicensed wine stores too? Weed is actually far from harmless. You just haven't investigated the negative effects of THC thoroughly. It suppresses the immune system. A valid argument could be made that it's a menace to public health.

ask why they dont license the ones that are there already..
have done so in van
matter of time really and ones perspective....
harmless like booze is it?you know this for fact? you dont and its known hog wash!!
I know different from experience. you dont get that part.

booze, opioid drugs, fentanyll are harmful