Monster Plant harvest. Dresser Grow

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munch box said:
Yes it is "Munches Magical Grow Box" It really is magical I don't care what anybody says. I've seen this dresser work maricles. The lights above are a 30w repti sun 10.0 UVB and a 400w digital ballast MH / HPS Hortilux inside of an easy cool 6 air coolable hood that i got from htgsupply. The LEDs are 13w I got em on ebay. But look guys, Its important to understand I'm using a lot of co2 in a small space. Everything is zipper sealed in with no exhaust for the cab. only 1 on the light thats it. My temps range between 72 and 82f .And also nutes are very important. I feed my plant like 12 different things during the bloom cycle alone. Hope i answered everybody's questions, if not then let me know
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please dont take my post the wrong way, wasnt bashing, just reminiscing... but anyway; you managed to put a 400w in a dresser and keep temps that low:shock::o:clap:.... you should make a diy thread on that; im sure it would be "sticky-ed" to help out everyone. props again bro
 
ROCafellaheads

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and shit dude that's what we wanted for ours but we didn't have the funds. They sell that whole line at a local hydro store for the same prices as online it's mad chill.
 
Bagelthief

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haha, thats crazy! fdd is in a realm of his own...i think the sun is a major contributing factor with his plants though...

i think some nutes and additives are cool...but yea, i think munch uses quite a few too many...not to be rude, but personally, i wouldnt want to inhale all that stuff...even after a flush...just too much chemical for me.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

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dude hats off to you bro thats a sick setup and formula of nutes
I use most of that same stuff you got but Im going to up the antie
alittle and see what happens, as for there being to much no
way just clear x it and flush aliitle longer its all I do.
 
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Bagelthief said:
haha, thats crazy! fdd is in a realm of his own...i think the sun is a major contributing factor with his plants though...

i think some nutes and additives are cool...but yea, i think munch uses quite a few too many...not to be rude, but personally, i wouldnt want to inhale all that stuff...even after a flush...just too much chemical for me.
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I never said that you need all those nutes to grow weed. If you want big buds it helps. I disagree with fdd2blk about carboload, I think plants do need sugars and starches built up at the begining of flower so the plant can use it for energy. most of these nutes are 100% organic. Whenever you get a chemical taste its because you didn't flush well enouph, or they only used water. I have never heard of anybody flushing with final phase and end up with a chemical taste or smell. Bottom line is Fdd2blk spreads a lot of propaganda. He says that all you need is water and not a lot of food. let the plants genetics and centuries of adaptation do the work. what he doesn't mention is that people have only been growing indoors for maybe 20-30 years or so. These plants have not yet evolved to the indoor grow environment. He is talking about growing outdoors under the sun which is like having 10,000 watts overhead.I'm not just talking about the canopy either. He has 10,000 watts of side lighting as well. Plants have been growing like that for thousands of years. lets see fdd show us where in these plants genetical lineup that they have adapted to growing in closets under mh/ hps bulbs. My point is you do what you can to get the most out of your plants. Withoutout all those nutes I would harvest 30% less every cycle.(based on past experience) That comes out to hundreds of dollars more product every couple months in exchange for me buying a 20$ bottle of nutes that will last me a year or so. Do the math Bagel
 
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munch box said:
I never said that you need all those nutes to grow weed. If you want big buds it helps. I disagree with fdd2blk about carboload, I think plants do need sugars and starches built up at the begining of flower so the plant can use it for energy. most of these nutes are 100% organic. Whenever you get a chemical taste its because you didn't flush well enouph, or they only used water. I have never heard of anybody flushing with final phase and end up with a chemical taste or smell. Bottom line is Fdd2blk spreads a lot of propaganda. He says that all you need is water and not a lot of food. let the plants genetics and centuries of adaptation do the work. what he doesn't mention is that people have only been growing indoors for maybe 20-30 years or so. These plants have not yet evolved to the indoor grow environment. He is talking about growing outdoors under the sun which is like having 10,000 watts overhead.I'm not just talking about the canopy either. He has 10,000 watts of side lighting as well. Plants have been growing like that for thousands of years. lets see fdd show us where in these plants genetical lineup that they have adapted to growing in closets under mh/ hps bulbs. My point is you do what you can to get the most out of your plants. Withoutout all those nutes I would harvest 30% less every cycle.(based on past experience) That comes out to hundreds of dollars more product every couple months in exchange for me buying a 20$ bottle of nutes that will last me a year or so. Do the math Bagel
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i'm not gonna argue with you; everyone has their style of growing; mines different from yours, we're both differerent than joeblow, you get the idea.... but i do want to clarify the bold/underlined statement..... he doesnt say they dont need much food; rather the opposite... his container plants are fed EVERY morning, and flushed with water every evening... but he does spread the propaganda of not needing all of the "accessories".... i will agree with you on the carboload, but from what i have read, it is essentially mollassas, so i use that instead.... im just a really cheap bastard and feel that you dont need to spend money to grow good plants... nature has been doing it for eons:joint:
 
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Click on the ? marks next to the product to see the label. Basically pirahna and terantula are benifical bacteria that gets your roots nice and fluffy. voodoo is a nitrogen fixer used mostly in veg . bud blood is used the first week of flower to send a STRONG signal to the plant that its time to flower.Big bud is self explanitory and overdrive make your buds fill out dense the final weeks of flower. And final phase is the flush that i use the final week before harvest.
 
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munch box said:
Click on the ? marks next to the product to see the label. Basically pirahna and terantula are benifical bacteria that gets your roots nice and fluffy. voodoo is a nitrogen fixer used mostly in veg . bud blood is used the first week of flower to send a STRONG signal to the plant that its time to flower.Big bud is self explanitory and overdrive make your buds fill out dense the final weeks of flower. And final phase is the flush that i use the final week before harvest.
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:dunce::dunce:.. didnt see the ?... thanks for your patience man:bigjoint:
 
Bagelthief

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munch box said:
I never said that you need all those nutes to grow weed. If you want big buds it helps. I disagree with fdd2blk about carboload, I think plants do need sugars and starches built up at the begining of flower so the plant can use it for energy. most of these nutes are 100% organic. Whenever you get a chemical taste its because you didn't flush well enouph, or they only used water. I have never heard of anybody flushing with final phase and end up with a chemical taste or smell. Bottom line is Fdd2blk spreads a lot of propaganda. He says that all you need is water and not a lot of food. let the plants genetics and centuries of adaptation do the work. what he doesn't mention is that people have only been growing indoors for maybe 20-30 years or so. These plants have not yet evolved to the indoor grow environment. He is talking about growing outdoors under the sun which is like having 10,000 watts overhead.I'm not just talking about the canopy either. He has 10,000 watts of side lighting as well. Plants have been growing like that for thousands of years. lets see fdd show us where in these plants genetical lineup that they have adapted to growing in closets under mh/ hps bulbs. My point is you do what you can to get the most out of your plants. Withoutout all those nutes I would harvest 30% less every cycle.(based on past experience) That comes out to hundreds of dollars more product every couple months in exchange for me buying a 20$ bottle of nutes that will last me a year or so. Do the math Bagel
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dude. re-read my post. no where did i tell you that you dont need any nutes to grow weed. and im sure it does help increase your yields. im not disagreeing with that. im with you 100% about fdd's plants being huge because of the sun. again, re-read my post and thats EXACTLY what i said. my point is the same as yours; "you do what you can to get the most out of your plants", and since me and you are different people, we have different ideas of what that means, and my idea of getting the best out of my plants is using some ferts and a few additives, but staying away from all the chemical nastiness that will tarnish your plants even with a flush. just because the taste in your bud isnt overwhelming or noticeable, doesnt mean it isnt there. lets see...from what i can tell in that hazy pic, you have Bud Blood, Big Bud, B-52, Carbo-Load, Monkey Juice, and Final Phase that ARE NOT organic. and thats just from what i can tell in the picture...perhaps there are one or two im missing...so that doesnt seem like "most" to me. and its funny that what you are flushing with, Final Phase, isnt even organic itself!!! so you are flushing chemicals with chemicals. cool. i didnt want this to turn into an argument. i stated my opinion, not even in a condescending way. trust me, im all for spending big bucks to get mary to produce, i just blew at least 1 grand on a co2 system for that same 30% in yield, but im not going to be putting anything nasty in my body at the same time...
 
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Bagelthief said:
dude. re-read my post. no where did i tell you that you dont need any nutes to grow weed. and im sure it does help increase your yields. im not disagreeing with that. im with you 100% about fdd's plants being huge because of the sun. again, re-read my post and thats EXACTLY what i said. my point is the same as yours; "you do what you can to get the most out of your plants", and since me and you are different people, we have different ideas of what that means, and my idea of getting the best out of my plants is using some ferts and a few additives, but staying away from all the chemical nastiness that will tarnish your plants even with a flush. just because the taste in your bud isnt overwhelming or noticeable, doesnt mean it isnt there. lets see...from what i can tell in that hazy pic, you have Bud Blood, Big Bud, B-52, Carbo-Load, Monkey Juice, and Final Phase that ARE NOT organic. and thats just from what i can tell in the picture...perhaps there are one or two im missing...so that doesnt seem like "most" to me. and its funny that what you are flushing with, Final Phase, isnt even organic itself!!! so you are flushing chemicals with chemicals. cool. i didnt want this to turn into an argument. i stated my opinion, not even in a condescending way. trust me, im all for spending big bucks to get mary to produce, i just blew at least 1 grand on a co2 system for that same 30% in yield, but im not going to be putting anything nasty in my body at the same time...
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1 grand on a co2 system? not even close. Are you sure monkey juice isn't organic or maybe you're just ignorant. Let me see a picture of your grow you stupid mother fucker
 
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