Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

Genetically Engineered Cannabis yes or no?


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Trousers

Well-Known Member

Still spamming.
Are you going to say you do not necessarily agree with the article?
You must not have read the article, moron...............
If RNAi were ever applied to marijuana, the technology could possibly create larger and more potent plants for less.
Sounds good to me. What is your problem with this?

While this latest development may be making ma and pa cultivators anxious, basic laws of supply and demand beg to differ.
There will always be a demand for locally grown cannabis if consumers prefer the quality and service, the same as there is now for certain community taverns and craft breweries.
Did you even read the article?
Because if you did, it counters you terrible, paranoid fantasies about Monsanto and marijuana.
The writer of this blog makes the same points I did, yet you quote him.


You are such an idiot that you are now posting articles that help my argument and hurt yours. smdh
It is still spam, but it is funny spam.


You should quit while you are behind.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Smoking my own dope right now, Monsanto...I'm like the honey badger...

"I don't give a fuck"

Jock Horror by Nirvana btw, pretty high quality for outdoor.
 

Harrekin

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Nirvana's OK but do treat yourself to some Cali Conn or Reserva Privada. A friend finds RP's Kosher Kush to be superlative.
I usually grow Sensi, these were a "throw em in the sun and see how they do".

Crystals were insane, strong (yet survivable in public) head effect too.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
" Take the infamous GMO giant Monsanto, who may someday hold a large stake in cannabis cultivation in the future. The controversial company is currently investing millions of dollars into a new technology called “RNAi” – a process that could artificially alter everything from the plant’s color to making it insect repellent. If RNAi were ever applied to marijuana, the technology could possibly create larger and more potent plants for less. "

http://www.bluerepublican.org/2013/08/27/genetically-modified-os-yes-monsanto-cannabis/

"And if wishes was horses, we would all be eating steak."
~ Jayne Cobb
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
Will this thread never die?

"Trayvon" was just a few texts by comparison.
lol ok dd i tell ya what, i vow to resist from posting here until more is known about the possibly evolving fed laws and if no biotech stranglehold jumps out of the wording in the final bill etc then this thread can be finally laid to rest...so until then i shall not post here again ;)
 

Dr Kynes

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lol ok dd i tell ya what, i vow to resist from posting here until more is known about the possibly evolving fed laws and if no biotech stranglehold jumps out of the wording in the final bill etc then this thread can be finally laid to rest...so until then i shall not post here again ;)
A Gentleman's Agreement!

Huzzah!
 

ChroniComedian

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I would like to read about that. Honeycrisp apples are losing their patent status, but they retain the trademarked name.




You must have a crystal ball. What are your fears based on? It seems like marijuana laws are loosening, which would make your idea even less likely to happen.
Why would I buy seeds like that?

I have my own seeds and there have been seed banks operating for decades. Why would that stop?




Who would do that? I won't spray my plants with anything.
You are making assumptions.




The conversation has "evolved."
We are now just laughing at the spam posted by DNA and the incredibly ironic/weird posts by someacdude.




That is not a fair generalization and it is not true. There are a lot of different GMO crops. They are definitely not designed to be sprayed with pesticides.






That is not the sole purpose of GMO crops.




I do not think that is accurate. Could you post a link?





If you want to have a conversation, you should try to be civil or you wuill be lumped in with DNA and someacdude.






That is absolutely untrue. Can you back that up with anything?





They have been posted in this thread 57 times. I will post them again for you, since you haven't read the thread.
http://www.biofortified.org/genera/studies-for-genera/

That is 600 peer reviewed studies going back to the early 1980s.
Could you post some studies that show that GMO crops are not safe?




Based on what? Because they said so? (It was a knee jerk reaction to bad science and propaganda and you are falling for it too)
I trust the EU less than my government.




Go look at the studies.




Monsanto does not produce all the GMO crops in the world. You can continue to deny science in favor of rumors and propaganda if you want.





They have? Post a link.





Are you implying that GMO crops and obesity are linked?
Is that another story you made up or do you have something to back it up?

All I have heard in this thread from anti-GMO people is the same stuff and it does not hold up to logic.

Replying to much of this. If you want to know about how Monsanto owns 85% of seed companies watch the documentary "The world according to Monsanto" and it will safely explain how you have had a veil put over your eyes the last 30 years of GMO.

You ask what is the proof that if a genetically modified seed comes out that people would want to spray it to death with pesticides given a gmo/pesticide resistant marijuana strain. My proof is here in colorado where I work in the medicinal marijuana industry and half of the places here already pack so many pesticides into their product to ensure no loss of plant material every time. To sit here and "assume" as you believe I'm doing that people given the opportunity to get more crop with less loss wouldn't actually do so. That's absolutely absurd of a thought to start, now you're assuming that all pot growers have good intentions and care about the product that they put out. If that were the case I wouldn't be sad with half of the dispensaries I go to that don't flush their product well, spray their product with nasty chemicals and then sell it like theres nothing wrong with it. You forget that assholes like Monsanto and the people who take over "industries" do not commonly take part in the things that they own, that's why they make so much money off the rest of us. The same idea goes, the owner of Coca Cola doesn't drink his own product.

Finally to your final thought of "find me the link" unfortunately not all information is on wikipedia like most of you modern idiots want, and I can't just post you the wiki links to all this stuff. A lot of this is watching documentaries, reading books and finding out more information about the subject, something you seem to only do if a internet link is provided to you. Do you also use wiki and other shitty internet information sources when writing an essay, I'm sure that will be quite successful for you. The answer to your bs questions is I won't answer to your bs, go look up some stuff for yourself and stop believing everything the FDA and monsanto tell you to believe.
 

ChesusRice

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Replying to much of this. If you want to know about how Monsanto owns 85% of seed companies watch the documentary "The world according to Monsanto" and it will safely explain how you have had a veil put over your eyes the last 30 years of GMO.

You ask what is the proof that if a genetically modified seed comes out that people would want to spray it to death with pesticides given a gmo/pesticide resistant marijuana strain. My proof is here in colorado where I work in the medicinal marijuana industry and half of the places here already pack so many pesticides into their product to ensure no loss of plant material every time. To sit here and "assume" as you believe I'm doing that people given the opportunity to get more crop with less loss wouldn't actually do so. That's absolutely absurd of a thought to start, now you're assuming that all pot growers have good intentions and care about the product that they put out. If that were the case I wouldn't be sad with half of the dispensaries I go to that don't flush their product well, spray their product with nasty chemicals and then sell it like theres nothing wrong with it. You forget that assholes like Monsanto and the people who take over "industries" do not commonly take part in the things that they own, that's why they make so much money off the rest of us. The same idea goes, the owner of Coca Cola doesn't drink his own product.

Finally to your final thought of "find me the link" unfortunately not all information is on wikipedia like most of you modern idiots want, and I can't just post you the wiki links to all this stuff. A lot of this is watching documentaries, reading books and finding out more information about the subject, something you seem to only do if a internet link is provided to you. Do you also use wiki and other shitty internet information sources when writing an essay, I'm sure that will be quite successful for you. The answer to your bs questions is I won't answer to your bs, go look up some stuff for yourself and stop believing everything the FDA and monsanto tell you to believe.
Another poster who backs up my model for legalization

Legal to possess and grow

Illegal to sell
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
Replying to much of this. If you want to know about how Monsanto owns 85% of seed companies watch the documentary "The world according to Monsanto" and it will safely explain how you have had a veil put over your eyes the last 30 years of GMO.
You do not understand my point of view boy. Where have I shown support for Monsanto?
Take your veil off and put it in your ass.


You ask what is the proof that if a genetically modified seed comes out that people would want to spray it to death with pesticides given a gmo/pesticide resistant marijuana strain.
Where did I ask that?

I had to read that 3 times and it still does not make much sense.


My proof is here in colorado where I work in the medicinal marijuana industry and half of the places here already pack so many pesticides into their product to ensure no loss of plant material every time.
What does that prove?

That is completely off topic. Besides that, you have no proof and you started off pretty douchey with that whole veil thing.


To sit here and "assume" as you believe I'm doing that people given the opportunity to get more crop with less loss wouldn't actually do so.
You are making things up about what I saidf and trying to proive your point with stories.
So stop that.

That's absolutely absurd of a thought to start, now you're assuming that all pot growers have good intentions and care about the product that they put out.
Where did I do that? Are you in the right thread?


If that were the case I wouldn't be sad with half of the dispensaries I go to that don't flush their product well,
Flushing is stupid. It does nothing but stress a plant.
You are the victim of a dumb myth. I'm not surprised.



spray their product with nasty chemicals and then sell it like theres nothing wrong with it.

What is your point?
That has nothing to do with what I have argued about.



You forget that assholes like Monsanto and the people who take over "industries" do not commonly take part in the things that they own, that's why they make so much money off the rest of us. The same idea goes, the owner of Coca Cola doesn't drink his own product.
Some say cucumbers taste better pickled.


Finally to your final thought of "find me the link" unfortunately not all information is on wikipedia like most of you modern idiots want, and I can't just post you the wiki links to all this stuff.
So you are full of shit and have brought nothing to this discussion but stories, assumptions and lies.
Thanks?


A lot of this is watching documentaries, reading books and finding out more information about the subject,
You want me to watch a documentary instead of reading peer reviewed scientific studies?
Will that make me believe bullshit like you do?


something you seem to only do if a internet link is provided to you.
So I should just believe your bullshit?
That is not how it works Big Fella.


Do you also use wiki and other shitty internet information sources when writing an essay,
Why would I write an essay?
I'm not a dumb student. Why don't you write an essay about your Summer vacation?

I'm sure that will be quite successful for you.
Go away boy. Go do your homework, you have added nothing hear but moronic assumptions and dubious stories.


The answer to your bs questions is I won't answer to your bs, go look up some stuff for yourself and stop believing everything the FDA and monsanto tell you to believe.
If you were smart enough to understand the thread, then you would realize that the studies that my argument hinges on have nothing to do with Monsanto of the FDA.

You do not know what you are talking about.

If you would like to argue something specific, bring it.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
I don't see any major seed producers on this list. I don't see 85% of production. Notice how when we ask for links the yuki gets small and attacks personally?

They all claim we are mired in Belief...yet it is they, that suffer, from no facts. Monsanto owns a very few seed companies, for it's size. It is the big guys controlling the competition is self rule.....this is part of the rules of the game. But, they didn't corner the market...impossible.

Audubon Workshop
Breck’s Bulbs
Cook’s Garden
Dege Garden Center
Earl May Seed
E & R Seed Co
Ferry Morse
Flower of the Month Club
Gardens Alive
Germania Seed Co
Garden Trends
HPS
Jungs
Lindenberg Seeds
McClure and Zimmerman Quality Bulb Brokers
Mountain Valley Seed
Nichol’s
Osborne
Park Bulbs
Park’s Countryside Garden
R.H. Shumway
Roots and Rhizomes
Rupp
Seeds for the World
Seymour’s Selected Seeds
Snow
Spring Hill Nurseries
Stokes
T&T Seeds
Tomato Growers Supply
Totally Tomato
Vermont Bean Seed Co.
Wayside Gardens
Willhite Seed Co.
American Seeds
Asgrow
Campbell
DeKalb
De Ruiter
Diener Seeds
Fielder’s Choice
Fontanelle
Gold Country Seed
Hawkeye
Heartland
Heritage Seeds
Holdens
Hubner Seed
icorn
Jung Seed
Kruger Seeds
Lewis Hybrids
Peotec
Poloni
Rea Hybrids
Seminis
Specialty
Stewart
Stone Seed
Trelay
Western Seeds

http://planet.infowars.com/uncategorized/seed-companies-owned-by-monsanto


Of course, they are trying to say these companies cannot possible produce heirloom anymore. OWNED BY MONSANTO THE DEVIL.

Hie thee from here, I know thy true name and by that I control thee.....BEGONE MONSANTO!!

Devil worshipers, Here me! You are lied to. The 85% crap you spout is not even close to true. The Top Ten producers are not owned buy Monsanto.

Monsanto, has 23% of the seed market, by a lot of work and luck, etc.

How stupid can you get??? You would believe anything, for belief is all you have.

http://www.gmwatch.org/gm-firms/10558-the-worlds-top-ten-seed-companies-who-owns-nature


Company – 2007Seed sales (US$ millions)% of global proprietary seed market
Monsanto (US)$4,964m23%
DuPont (US)$3,300m15%
Syngenta (Switzerland)$2,018m9%
Groupe Limagrain (France)$1,226m6%
Land O' Lakes (US)$917m4%
KWS AG (Germany)$702m3%
Bayer Crop Science (Germany)$524m2%
Sakata (Japan)$396m<2%
DLF-Trifolium (Denmark)$391m<2%
Takii (Japan)$347m<2%
Top 10 Total$14,785m67% [of global proprietary seed market]
 

Trousers

Well-Known Member
Replying to much of this. If you want to know about how Monsanto owns 85% of seed companies watch the documentary "The world according to Monsanto" and it will safely explain how you have had a veil put over your eyes the last 30 years of GMO.


Do you want to revisit that comment?
Remove the veil, smdh.
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
This thread is still going? hahaha.. and I see Trousers is still opening up a can of whoopass, awesome! - where's Kynes?
 

Solarves

New Member
I vote No on GMO-weed. I wouldn't trust a company with ZERO ethics (Monsanto). Nor do I support tampering with nature with things like herbs - though further research and attempting to isolate which components do what MAY have medical value so long as they are
isolated and the isolate proves, in a concentrated form, to have more benefit. But attempting to splice other DNA into that gene may be a bad idea. If something isn't found in nature and incidentally ingested then does the body, on a cellular level recognize that? If so how does it handle it? As a free radical or something of the sort? The synergy within cannabis is not greatly understood even today (as much as they could) and I believe someone like Monsanto would NOT be doing anything to help anyone, except themselves and their bottom line (money).
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Zero ethics? So stupid. They are a pubic company and protected from you idiots by the Federal Govt.
 
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