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Nutty sKunK said:

Good genetics and environment.

What I’m on about is 60% and poor airflow and dense colas is asking for mold. There’s small microclimates in and around the biggest buds.

But will proper airflow and circulation it’ll be no bother

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bk78 said:

But you also stated by using air pots will give me 20% more yield too

so there’s that.

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Cigarz said:

HLG is a ripoff, Kingbrite sells the same lights for 1/4th the price. For the money Gavita, ThinkGrow, Fluence etc. are ALL much better lights.

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An HLG-240H-C2100A is $61. $85 should have it shipped to your door. This is all in stock, right here in the States. $285 for 240 watts of quality led, plus your getting 32 diodes total of red or blue.
You'll need a plug for the driver, some wire, a ratcheting hanger, and something to use as a frame. Budget $50 for this.
The most simple frame, would be a couple aluminum rulers from harbor freight, ran paralell, the width of the boards. The boards themselves will be the "cross members". Drill holes at the 4 ends of the rulers, and bolt in some eye hangers.
I've got 520 watts of high quality light, for $1.22/watt average. If I have a problem, I pick up the phone, or send an email, and the problem is solved right then. Tech support is incredible with TRC and Jameco. I ordered a driver from TRC that was in stock. Shortly after, trc contacted me and told me they were out of stock. They had already checked with Jameco, who had the driver I needed in stock. Few days later I had a driver at my door.
My HLG boards took 2 or 3 days from the time I placed my order. Ive called a couple times with questions, they always helped me out.
I think its great that a company offers the parts to diy. If you're willing to do a little work, HLG offers an incredible value. And when I say little, I'm talking an hour or two.
Using the qb120's, your looking at $1/watt. I doubt any company is selling a light at .25 cents per watt. And if they are, its not going to be the same quality.
A lot of people use the knockoff lights and get good results. But to call HLG a ripoff is just crazy. At $1/watt, they're one of the best values on the market for those willing to do. You could even spend $200 on a 600 watt mean well, and $200 on ( qb120's, and you're at less than .70 cents per watt

GrassBurner said:

A ripoff Ive got 2 different fixtures built with HLG boards. A 240 watt fixture with (2) qb288's, and a 280 watt fixture with (4) qb120's. Both fixtures cover 2x4 areas. Both fixtures powered by Meanwell drivers.
You can buy (4) qb120 boards for $90 plus shipping from HLG, with the 10% riu discount. Can be run @70 watts, so 280 watts between the 4. A Mean Well HLG-320H-C2800A driver is $81.70 right now at TRC Electronics. So to your door, $200 give or take, for 280 watts of Samsung lm301h light.
A qb288 with heatsink is $84.60 from HLG, after the riu discount. Gives your more lm301h diodes (272) in a smaller footprint. Easily covers 2x2 area in flower, 2x3 in veg. Extremely bright. They're also gonna have blue or red diodes added in, depending on if you get the b-spec or r-spec. We'll quote a 2x4 fixture here for comparison sake. $169.20 for for 2 boards and heatsinks, let's just say $200 to your door. An HLG-240H-C2100A is $61. $85 should have it shipped to your door. This is all in stock, right here in the States. $285 for 240 watts of quality led, plus your getting 32 diodes total of red or blue.
You'll need a plug for the driver, some wire, a ratcheting hanger, and something to use as a frame. Budget $50 for this.
The most simple frame, would be a couple aluminum rulers from harbor freight, ran paralell, the width of the boards. The boards themselves will be the "cross members". Drill holes at the 4 ends of the rulers, and bolt in some eye hangers.
I've got 520 watts of high quality light, for $1.22/watt average. If I have a problem, I pick up the phone, or send an email, and the problem is solved right then. Tech support is incredible with TRC and Jameco. I ordered a driver from TRC that was in stock. Shortly after, trc contacted me and told me they were out of stock. They had already checked with Jameco, who had the driver I needed in stock. Few days later I had a driver at my door.
My HLG boards took 2 or 3 days from the time I placed my order. Ive called a couple times with questions, they always helped me out.
I think its great that a company offers the parts to diy. If you're willing to do a little work, HLG offers an incredible value. And when I say little, I'm talking an hour or two.
Using the qb120's, your looking at $1/watt. I doubt any company is selling a light at .25 cents per watt. And if they are, its not going to be the same quality.
A lot of people use the knockoff lights and get good results. But to call HLG a ripoff is just crazy. At $1/watt, they're one of the best values on the market for those willing to do. You could even spend $200 on a 600 watt mean well, and $200 on ( qb120's, and you're at less than .70 cents per watt

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GrassBurner said:

A ripoff Ive got 2 different fixtures built with HLG boards. A 240 watt fixture with (2) qb288's, and a 280 watt fixture with (4) qb120's. Both fixtures cover 2x4 areas. Both fixtures powered by Meanwell drivers.
You can buy (4) qb120 boards for $90 plus shipping from HLG, with the 10% riu discount. Can be run @70 watts, so 280 watts between the 4. A Mean Well HLG-320H-C2800A driver is $81.70 right now at TRC Electronics. So to your door, $200 give or take, for 280 watts of Samsung lm301h light.
A qb288 with heatsink is $84.60 from HLG, after the riu discount. Gives your more lm301h diodes (272) in a smaller footprint. Easily covers 2x2 area in flower, 2x3 in veg. Extremely bright. They're also gonna have blue or red diodes added in, depending on if you get the b-spec or r-spec. We'll quote a 2x4 fixture here for comparison sake. $169.20 for for 2 boards and heatsinks, let's just say $200 to your door. An HLG-240H-C2100A is $61. $85 should have it shipped to your door. This is all in stock, right here in the States. $285 for 240 watts of quality led, plus your getting 32 diodes total of red or blue.
You'll need a plug for the driver, some wire, a ratcheting hanger, and something to use as a frame. Budget $50 for this.
The most simple frame, would be a couple aluminum rulers from harbor freight, ran paralell, the width of the boards. The boards themselves will be the "cross members". Drill holes at the 4 ends of the rulers, and bolt in some eye hangers.
I've got 520 watts of high quality light, for $1.22/watt average. If I have a problem, I pick up the phone, or send an email, and the problem is solved right then. Tech support is incredible with TRC and Jameco. I ordered a driver from TRC that was in stock. Shortly after, trc contacted me and told me they were out of stock. They had already checked with Jameco, who had the driver I needed in stock. Few days later I had a driver at my door.
My HLG boards took 2 or 3 days from the time I placed my order. Ive called a couple times with questions, they always helped me out.
I think its great that a company offers the parts to diy. If you're willing to do a little work, HLG offers an incredible value. And when I say little, I'm talking an hour or two.
Using the qb120's, your looking at $1/watt. I doubt any company is selling a light at .25 cents per watt. And if they are, its not going to be the same quality.
A lot of people use the knockoff lights and get good results. But to call HLG a ripoff is just crazy. At $1/watt, they're one of the best values on the market for those willing to do. You could even spend $200 on a 600 watt mean well, and $200 on ( qb120's, and you're at less than .70 cents per watt

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GrassBurner said:

My bad, I forgot to enter my numbers into the Ali-Baba converter. So I got 2000 watts of light, for $285. I'm down to .14 cents a watt Now that's a joke I can laugh at

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GrassBurner said:

I guess you missed the part about buying 8 qb120's, and a 600 watt driver for $400? Hell for $700 you could have gotten 880 watts worth of top shelf led, from companies right here in the States. It's your money, but calling HLG a ripoff is crazy. You must be a member of bk's sweet and sour chicken posse

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GrassBurner said:

No, my logic is about quality relative to price. Not to mention your comparing a knockoff, with who knows what parts inside it. Integrity isn't running point in an operation that merely copies other products.
I know exactly what I'm getting when I order from HLG, TRC, and Jameco.
Do these lights being sold on Ali Baba even have a legitimate UL certification?

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GrassBurner said:

Thankfully it wasn't a snake, it would have bit you. qb 120 Your not gonna find them pre-assembled at that price. Hence the diy that I spoke of. I still haven't seen anything that shows HLG is a ripoff. You want a top of the line pre-assembled light, you pay the price. You want top of the line light, at knock off prices, you do a little work. Its simple. Doesn't make them a ripoff, it makes their products available to a wider range of people.

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GrassBurner said:

No, my logic is about quality relative to price. Not to mention your comparing a knockoff, with who knows what parts inside it. Integrity isn't running point in an operation that merely copies other products.
I know exactly what I'm getting when I order from HLG, TRC, and Jameco.
Do these lights being sold on Ali Baba even have a legitimate UL certification?

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GrassBurner said:

100% legit, must be legit then

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GrassBurner said:

100% legit, must be legit then

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