bk78
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But you also stated by using air pots will give me 20% more yield too
so there’s that.
Money no object LED
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so there’s that.
Nutty sKunK
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I don’t see the correlation between asking to confirm my suspicions on airflow and humidity levels effecting bud rot and a suggestion on adding more oxygen/root pruning will increase your yields.
And I said up to 20% not exactly 20% ya fud lol
Gonna watch my film dude - smoke some more
GrassBurner
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A ripoff
Ive got 2 different fixtures built with HLG boards. A 240 watt fixture with (2) qb288's, and a 280 watt fixture with (4) qb120's. Both fixtures cover 2x4 areas. Both fixtures powered by Meanwell drivers. You can buy (4) qb120 boards for $90 plus shipping from HLG, with the 10% riu discount. Can be run @70 watts, so 280 watts between the 4. A Mean Well HLG-320H-C2800A driver is $81.70 right now at TRC Electronics. So to your door, $200 give or take, for 280 watts of Samsung lm301h light.
A qb288 with heatsink is $84.60 from HLG, after the riu discount. Gives your more lm301h diodes (272) in a smaller footprint. Easily covers 2x2 area in flower, 2x3 in veg. Extremely bright. They're also gonna have blue or red diodes added in, depending on if you get the b-spec or r-spec. We'll quote a 2x4 fixture here for comparison sake. $169.20 for for 2 boards and heatsinks, let's just say $200 to your door. An HLG-240H-C2100A is $61. $85 should have it shipped to your door. This is all in stock, right here in the States. $285 for 240 watts of quality led, plus your getting 32 diodes total of red or blue.
You'll need a plug for the driver, some wire, a ratcheting hanger, and something to use as a frame. Budget $50 for this.
The most simple frame, would be a couple aluminum rulers from harbor freight, ran paralell, the width of the boards. The boards themselves will be the "cross members". Drill holes at the 4 ends of the rulers, and bolt in some eye hangers.
I've got 520 watts of high quality light, for $1.22/watt average. If I have a problem, I pick up the phone, or send an email, and the problem is solved right then. Tech support is incredible with TRC and Jameco. I ordered a driver from TRC that was in stock. Shortly after, trc contacted me and told me they were out of stock. They had already checked with Jameco, who had the driver I needed in stock. Few days later I had a driver at my door.
My HLG boards took 2 or 3 days from the time I placed my order. Ive called a couple times with questions, they always helped me out.
I think its great that a company offers the parts to diy. If you're willing to do a little work, HLG offers an incredible value. And when I say little, I'm talking an hour or two.
Using the qb120's, your looking at $1/watt. I doubt any company is selling a light at .25 cents per watt. And if they are, its not going to be the same quality.
A lot of people use the knockoff lights and get good results. But to call HLG a ripoff is just crazy. At $1/watt, they're one of the best values on the market for those willing to do. You could even spend $200 on a 600 watt mean well, and $200 on (
qb120's, and you're at less than .70 cents per watt 
bk78
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A ripoff
You can buy (4) qb120 boards for $90 plus shipping from HLG, with the 10% riu discount. Can be run @70 watts, so 280 watts between the 4. A Mean Well HLG-320H-C2800A driver is $81.70 right now at TRC Electronics. So to your door, $200 give or take, for 280 watts of Samsung lm301h light.
A qb288 with heatsink is $84.60 from HLG, after the riu discount. Gives your more lm301h diodes (272) in a smaller footprint. Easily covers 2x2 area in flower, 2x3 in veg. Extremely bright. They're also gonna have blue or red diodes added in, depending on if you get the b-spec or r-spec. We'll quote a 2x4 fixture here for comparison sake. $169.20 for for 2 boards and heatsinks, let's just say $200 to your door. An HLG-240H-C2100A is $61. $85 should have it shipped to your door. This is all in stock, right here in the States. $285 for 240 watts of quality led, plus your getting 32 diodes total of red or blue.
You'll need a plug for the driver, some wire, a ratcheting hanger, and something to use as a frame. Budget $50 for this.
The most simple frame, would be a couple aluminum rulers from harbor freight, ran paralell, the width of the boards. The boards themselves will be the "cross members". Drill holes at the 4 ends of the rulers, and bolt in some eye hangers.
I've got 520 watts of high quality light, for $1.22/watt average. If I have a problem, I pick up the phone, or send an email, and the problem is solved right then. Tech support is incredible with TRC and Jameco. I ordered a driver from TRC that was in stock. Shortly after, trc contacted me and told me they were out of stock. They had already checked with Jameco, who had the driver I needed in stock. Few days later I had a driver at my door.
My HLG boards took 2 or 3 days from the time I placed my order. Ive called a couple times with questions, they always helped me out.
I think its great that a company offers the parts to diy. If you're willing to do a little work, HLG offers an incredible value. And when I say little, I'm talking an hour or two.
Using the qb120's, your looking at $1/watt. I doubt any company is selling a light at .25 cents per watt. And if they are, its not going to be the same quality.
A lot of people use the knockoff lights and get good results. But to call HLG a ripoff is just crazy. At $1/watt, they're one of the best values on the market for those willing to do. You could even spend $200 on a 600 watt mean well, and $200 on (
$285 is a joke to light up a 2x4 area. This post is a joke right?
GrassBurner
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My bad, I forgot to enter my numbers into the Ali-Baba converter. So I got 2000 watts of light, for $285. I'm down to .14 cents a watt Now that's a joke I can laugh at
Now that's a joke I can laugh at
Cigarz
Active Member
Okay i paid 700 to my door prebuilt 480w 8 boards all meanwell so i fail to see how building my own from hlg is better? I still spent less for more by what youre saying...?A ripoff
You can buy (4) qb120 boards for $90 plus shipping from HLG, with the 10% riu discount. Can be run @70 watts, so 280 watts between the 4. A Mean Well HLG-320H-C2800A driver is $81.70 right now at TRC Electronics. So to your door, $200 give or take, for 280 watts of Samsung lm301h light.
A qb288 with heatsink is $84.60 from HLG, after the riu discount. Gives your more lm301h diodes (272) in a smaller footprint. Easily covers 2x2 area in flower, 2x3 in veg. Extremely bright. They're also gonna have blue or red diodes added in, depending on if you get the b-spec or r-spec. We'll quote a 2x4 fixture here for comparison sake. $169.20 for for 2 boards and heatsinks, let's just say $200 to your door. An HLG-240H-C2100A is $61. $85 should have it shipped to your door. This is all in stock, right here in the States. $285 for 240 watts of quality led, plus your getting 32 diodes total of red or blue.
You'll need a plug for the driver, some wire, a ratcheting hanger, and something to use as a frame. Budget $50 for this.
The most simple frame, would be a couple aluminum rulers from harbor freight, ran paralell, the width of the boards. The boards themselves will be the "cross members". Drill holes at the 4 ends of the rulers, and bolt in some eye hangers.
I've got 520 watts of high quality light, for $1.22/watt average. If I have a problem, I pick up the phone, or send an email, and the problem is solved right then. Tech support is incredible with TRC and Jameco. I ordered a driver from TRC that was in stock. Shortly after, trc contacted me and told me they were out of stock. They had already checked with Jameco, who had the driver I needed in stock. Few days later I had a driver at my door.
My HLG boards took 2 or 3 days from the time I placed my order. Ive called a couple times with questions, they always helped me out.
I think its great that a company offers the parts to diy. If you're willing to do a little work, HLG offers an incredible value. And when I say little, I'm talking an hour or two.
Using the qb120's, your looking at $1/watt. I doubt any company is selling a light at .25 cents per watt. And if they are, its not going to be the same quality.
A lot of people use the knockoff lights and get good results. But to call HLG a ripoff is just crazy. At $1/watt, they're one of the best values on the market for those willing to do. You could even spend $200 on a 600 watt mean well, and $200 on (
Cigarz
Active Member
My bad, I forgot to enter my numbers into the Ali-Baba converter. So I got 2000 watts of light, for $285. I'm down to .14 cents a watt
Right there... by your logic and math is a better buy than hlgs.
350 shipped a might 4 288s with meanwell 480w covers 4v4 and 5x5 .. i own 2 of these in a 5x10 tent and i grow 18 plants. These lights kill it. Sorry hlg is overoriced you can get the same tbings assembled for less.
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GrassBurner
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I guess you missed the part about buying 8 qb120's, and a 600 watt driver for $400? Hell for $700 you could have gotten 880 watts worth of top shelf led, from companies right here in the States. 
It's your money, but calling HLG a ripoff is crazy. You must be a member of bk's sweet and sour chicken posse
It's your money, but calling HLG a ripoff is crazy. You must be a member of bk's sweet and sour chicken posse
Cigarz
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For 400 on alibaba you can get a 630w 6 288 whats your point? Yes im missing your point show? And where can you get 880w pre assembled 8 288 boards for 700? Show me and ill get my next 2 lights thereI guess you missed the part about buying 8 qb120's, and a 600 watt driver for $400? Hell for $700 you could have gotten 880 watts worth of top shelf led, from companies right here in the States.
GrassBurner
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No, my logic is about quality relative to price. Not to mention your comparing a knockoff, with who knows what parts inside it. Integrity isn't running point in an operation that merely copies other products.
I know exactly what I'm getting when I order from HLG, TRC, and Jameco.
Do these lights being sold on Ali Baba even have a legitimate UL certification?
I know exactly what I'm getting when I order from HLG, TRC, and Jameco.
Do these lights being sold on Ali Baba even have a legitimate UL certification?
Cigarz
Active Member
Kingbrite 100% uses legit samsung diodes and meanwell drivers same exact thing as hlg.
If you want quality go with 1100 dollar thinkgrows or something quantum boards are all about the same hlg just marks up says sold in america, you got ripped off bro.
GrassBurner
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Thankfully it wasn't a snake, it would have bit you. qb 120 Your not gonna find them pre-assembled at that price. Hence the diy that I spoke of. I still haven't seen anything that shows HLG is a ripoff. You want a top of the line pre-assembled light, you pay the price. You want top of the line light, at knock off prices, you do a little work. Its simple. Doesn't make them a ripoff, it makes their products available to a wider range of people.
GrassBurner
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100% legit, must be legit then 
Cigarz
Active Member
So what makes a QB 120 better than a QB 288? If i want a top of the line pre assembled light I'll pay the extra $300 over HLG for a Think Grow, if I want cheap Quantum boards I'll go Alibaba all day. Like I said all HLG is, is alibaba lights with "made in usa" written on it with a few tweaks and sold for $100-300 more a light. Same thing companies like SpiderFarmer have done.
Cigarz
Active Member
If you would do your homework KingBrite is one of the top companies on Alibaba and are 100% legit, go do some googling.
Cigarz
Active Member
100% legit, must be legit then
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$528 shipped per light, 600w from wall.. All samsung diodes, 6 x qb288, meanwell driver, full aluminum heatsink. also have UV/IR and can choose between 3000K,3500K,4000K and waterproof or non waterproofing, all fully assembled. You can beat that with HLG? Where do you think these boards and Samsung come from lol? Alibaba offers like 1-5 year warranty on these lights and so far have been extremely helpful anytime I've needed to talk with them. Alibaba is a crackpipe site if you dont know what you're doing, but if you know the good companies its just as reliable as ordering from HLG.
Cigarz
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Also all alibaba lights come with hardware more money saved... shall i go on?100% legit, must be legit then
Buddernugs
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Optic slimm650s or phototek 1000w co2 pro