Molasses?

PadawanWarrior

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I remember Jeremy saying that when brewing a tea, make sure you can't smell the molasses before applying. It's just a guess, but I believe that's why he said that. You want those microbes to immediately start feeding off the exudates. Again, it's just a guess though.
Jeremy doesn't know everything. But I appreciate his videos. If you find it link it here.
 

cobshopgrow

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"A number of scientific studies have analyzed the fertilizing efficiency of vinasse. For example, it was found that sugar and cane yields increased with application of vinasse, with the optimal results obtained through application of vinasse at the moderate dosage level of 50,000 L ha–1
Further, the N (nitrogen), P2O5 175 (phosphorus) and K2O (potassium) sugarcane demands were supplied at this dosage level in proportions of 55%, 72%, and 100%, respectively (Gómez, 2000). It was also observed that application of vinasse to
sandy loam soil enhanced the organic carbon, available nutrient levels, and the microbial soil population, thereby resulting in higher sugarcane yields (Baskar, 2005). This report also suggested that application of distillery effluent 40–60 days prior to planting may overcome any issues with the excessive BOD of vinasse.
The application of fresh beet vinasse had a detrimental impact on the soil’s physical, chemical, biological properties and wheat yield parameters, most likely because high quantities of sodium and fulvic acids were introduced into the soil by vinasse. However, co-composting beet vinasse with cotton gin crushed compost beneficially impacted soil properties and increased wheat yield (Tejada, 2006)."
 

PadawanWarrior

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Agreed, he absolutely doesn't, but I feel he has a good grasp on soil biology.
Speaking of microbes. I just got this stuff to try after watching one of his videos.

 

Hollatchaboy

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Speaking of microbes. I just got this stuff to try after watching one of his videos.

It's good shit, but expensive. Not saying it's not worth it though if you have the money.

I bought a bag of recharge a few weeks ago, just to see how good it is. So far, it's not too bad.
 

xtsho

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"However, co-composting beet vinasse with cotton gin crushed compost beneficially impacted soil properties and increased wheat yield (Tejada, 2006)."

"A number of scientific studies have analyzed the fertilizing efficiency of vinasse. For example, it was found that sugar and cane yields increased with application of vinasse, with the optimal results obtained through application of vinasse at the moderate dosage level of 50,000 L ha–1
Further, the N (nitrogen), P2O5 175 (phosphorus) and K2O (potassium) sugarcane demands were supplied at this dosage level in proportions of 55%, 72%, and 100%, respectively (Gómez, 2000). It was also observed that application of vinasse to
sandy loam soil enhanced the organic carbon, available nutrient levels, and the microbial soil population, thereby resulting in higher sugarcane yields (Baskar, 2005). This report also suggested that application of distillery effluent 40–60 days prior to planting may overcome any issues with the excessive BOD of vinasse.
The application of fresh beet vinasse had a detrimental impact on the soil’s physical, chemical, biological properties and wheat yield parameters, most likely because high quantities of sodium and fulvic acids were introduced into the soil by vinasse. However, co-composting beet vinasse with cotton gin crushed compost beneficially impacted soil properties and increased wheat yield (Tejada, 2006)."
There is no substitute for good compost.
 

PadawanWarrior

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There is no substitute for good compost.
Totally agree with that. I add all kinds of compost depending on the definition of compost. I add EWC or vermicompost almost everytime I add more amendments.

But I occasionally give em some extra microbes like tonight since I'm already gonna give them a little Microbe-Lift. But usually it's just plain water.

I got the BMC to fight gnats that came with one of the composts. Needed to do it each watering at first, then every couple waterings, and now barely ever, but decided I'll give it a proactive dose anyways tonight. So this is what's for dinner.

Microbe-Lift
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BioRighteous, molasses, and yucca
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Antidote Man

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don't add to foliar spray bottle... will stink the plants up in the wrong way. grow big, miracle grow and neem oil mixture does better for sprayers

I add a small amount of molasses to my watering can mixture... I doubt it does much
 

PadawanWarrior

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don't add to foliar spray bottle... will stink the plants up in the wrong way. grow big, miracle grow and neem oil mixture does better for sprayers

I add a small amount of molasses to my watering can mixture... I doubt it does much
Not with salt based nutrients it won't.

And I wouldn't spray it on them either.
 

conor c

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Back in the old days I heard of farmers utilising bagasse as an agricultural amendment. Guess vinasse can be used to describe waste from other raw stock as well as sugarcane. What about pressed pulp waste from the wine industry. On a side note vaguely remember Jodrey talking about smoking samples from guys who utilised grape pulp waste in their soil.
Vinasse is good stuff its what bio bizz uses in there nutrients among some other things
 
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