SketchyGrower
Well-Known Member
It's hard to combat that one purklize.... =/
MM Patients Can NOT Drive in Michigan!
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bob harris
Well-Known Member
Your delusional and paranoid. Plates are not automatically run by the "cam". The cop has to manually run a plate. And they simply don't unless there is a reason to. Under your theory, a cop would only have to drive through a mall parking lot, and he'd have busts all day.
Are there rouge cops? Sure. But the vast majority are not looking for "card holder" busts. They are looking for moving violations.
You like to fear monger. Your anti Government in all areas.
FatMarty
Well-Known Member
Yeah. It's not like you take a picture with your cell phone and it embeds GPS location and time in the image.
And I've never once heard of anything like face recognition that can scan large crowds and pull out suspects.
So what Timmahh is suggesting is just impossibe wouldn't you agree?
Timmahh
Well-Known Member
I am Anti Government Control, unlike you BobbyJ.... Your a NARK. SNITCH, whatever you want to call your self, but American and Human are not two of the words that can be used to describe you and your Tripe and limited thinking abiliities. Slope headed is what you are bob.
Just remember how Delusional I am as you are getting pulled over for doing nothing wrong, but end up in Jail anyways.
You say I'm Delusional and Anti Government, and I say Im a Conservative Constitutional American.
and your just a liberal commie snitch.
Just remember how Delusional I am as you are getting pulled over for doing nothing wrong, but end up in Jail anyways.
You say I'm Delusional and Anti Government, and I say Im a Conservative Constitutional American.
and your just a liberal commie snitch.
Alexander Supertramp
Well-Known Member
You can be ticketed for driving under the influence of a prescribed drug from the pharmacy too...driving under the influence is driving under the influence. Just because you have a mmj card does not mean you are subject to a random roadside drug test.
bloodytrichomes
New Member
just a fast ? timmahh why dont you run your mouth like this at your website?your starting to look like one of joes used condoms.just saying
treetopmmmp
Active Member
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45510972#.T5Q159mYsdA
Police cars of the very near future will be scary smart. Equipped with eight cameras, voice commands, incredibly intelligent software, and LTE radios, perps won't get away with anything.
Motorola Solutions isn't working on building the latest and greatest Droid that's Motorola Mobility. These guys have their fingers more in corporate and governmental pots. Engineers have done hundreds of ride-alongs, surveys, and simulations, and have applied all of their wireless knowledge into designing a police car that is so advanced it's actually very unsettling. Here are some highlights:
Gizmodo The system could record up to 10,000 license plates during a typical patrol shift.
Automated license plate recognition
The car's outward facing cameras will be scanning every license plate that passes through their field of vision. Impossible, you say? Using infrared as well as standard cameras, Motorola says their system can see and store up 10,000 license plates in a shift. In bad weather. Even if there's a 130 mph difference in speed between the cars. All of which is insane. According to Motorola, "Typically, the system will scan and recognize a plate in about 1 to 2 seconds and compare it instantaneously against a locally stored database of plates of interest (i.e. stolen cars, known felons, people who haven't paid their parking tickets in years, etc)." The system would then alert the officer. Um, wow.
View a video of the future cop car on Gizmodo
A central database will also keep track of what cars were where and when. Why? Say there was a murder on the 100 block of X Street. Cops put the time of death at about 3 p.m. If a patrol car just happened to have passed by that block 15 minutes earlier, they have a list of all the cars that were parked in that area. If another killing happens somewhere else, and again, the cops had driven by some time around then, the system can cross-check those licenses and come up with a list of suspects. That's an extreme example, of course, but that's how it could be used. Could it also be misused? Yeah, it most definitely could.
LTE and cameras
All those cameras? In addition to constantly caching video, they can also stream it back to headquarters in realtime. If a cop pulls someone over, that means more eyes can be on the situation. Such a thing was impossible in the past because there was no wireless technology that could handle that kind of bandwidth. 4G to the rescue. The LTE also means that the officer in the field will have greatly enhanced access to remote computer systems.
LTE aside, the onboard computer will be a pair of eyes as well. The car may be able to see something the cop can't, especially at night, or when the officer is already over at the suspect's vehicle. If, for example, one of the cameras detects motion in the suspect's back seat, the computer system can sound an alert to warn the officer of potential danger. I'd say this has a high potential for false-positives, but I didn't get to see it in action. One of the ways it might alert the officer, besides the obvious bleat from the siren, is via the...
Gizmodo A Motorola-designed head-worn heads-up display would help cops manage data and control systems.
Advertise | AdChoices
Heads-up display glasses
Okay, so this one's still a little ways off. The unit I tested in the video above was very much a prototype. The screen that covered one of my eyes looked like a feature phone from a few years ago, it just did basic tasks, and it was slow to respond to voice commands. The concept, however, is very interesting. It would open the door not only for the car's computer or someone at headquarters to be able to relay messages to the officer as they are speaking with a suspect, but it could record video and offer more situational awareness than the officer would have with just the naked eyes. Infrared vision is just one of the possibilities.
View future cop car gallery on Gizmodo
Motorola's whole system is designed to be extremely intuitive and easy to use in a high pressure situation. Almost everything is done with either a single button-press or a voice command. They even thought to put the voice control button right on the steering wheel. Oh, and it's coming sooner than you think. Many of these features are being tested and rolled out now in cities like Los Angeles, and they will be coming to more and more areas soon. As LTE blankets the country, these systems will follow, and over the course of the next few years it will be rule rather than the exception. Basically, there's never been a worse time to be on the cops' bad side.
Police cars of the very near future will be scary smart. Equipped with eight cameras, voice commands, incredibly intelligent software, and LTE radios, perps won't get away with anything.
Motorola Solutions isn't working on building the latest and greatest Droid that's Motorola Mobility. These guys have their fingers more in corporate and governmental pots. Engineers have done hundreds of ride-alongs, surveys, and simulations, and have applied all of their wireless knowledge into designing a police car that is so advanced it's actually very unsettling. Here are some highlights:
Gizmodo The system could record up to 10,000 license plates during a typical patrol shift.
Automated license plate recognition
The car's outward facing cameras will be scanning every license plate that passes through their field of vision. Impossible, you say? Using infrared as well as standard cameras, Motorola says their system can see and store up 10,000 license plates in a shift. In bad weather. Even if there's a 130 mph difference in speed between the cars. All of which is insane. According to Motorola, "Typically, the system will scan and recognize a plate in about 1 to 2 seconds and compare it instantaneously against a locally stored database of plates of interest (i.e. stolen cars, known felons, people who haven't paid their parking tickets in years, etc)." The system would then alert the officer. Um, wow.
View a video of the future cop car on Gizmodo
A central database will also keep track of what cars were where and when. Why? Say there was a murder on the 100 block of X Street. Cops put the time of death at about 3 p.m. If a patrol car just happened to have passed by that block 15 minutes earlier, they have a list of all the cars that were parked in that area. If another killing happens somewhere else, and again, the cops had driven by some time around then, the system can cross-check those licenses and come up with a list of suspects. That's an extreme example, of course, but that's how it could be used. Could it also be misused? Yeah, it most definitely could.
LTE and cameras
All those cameras? In addition to constantly caching video, they can also stream it back to headquarters in realtime. If a cop pulls someone over, that means more eyes can be on the situation. Such a thing was impossible in the past because there was no wireless technology that could handle that kind of bandwidth. 4G to the rescue. The LTE also means that the officer in the field will have greatly enhanced access to remote computer systems.
LTE aside, the onboard computer will be a pair of eyes as well. The car may be able to see something the cop can't, especially at night, or when the officer is already over at the suspect's vehicle. If, for example, one of the cameras detects motion in the suspect's back seat, the computer system can sound an alert to warn the officer of potential danger. I'd say this has a high potential for false-positives, but I didn't get to see it in action. One of the ways it might alert the officer, besides the obvious bleat from the siren, is via the...
Gizmodo A Motorola-designed head-worn heads-up display would help cops manage data and control systems.
Advertise | AdChoices
Heads-up display glasses
Okay, so this one's still a little ways off. The unit I tested in the video above was very much a prototype. The screen that covered one of my eyes looked like a feature phone from a few years ago, it just did basic tasks, and it was slow to respond to voice commands. The concept, however, is very interesting. It would open the door not only for the car's computer or someone at headquarters to be able to relay messages to the officer as they are speaking with a suspect, but it could record video and offer more situational awareness than the officer would have with just the naked eyes. Infrared vision is just one of the possibilities.
View future cop car gallery on Gizmodo
Motorola's whole system is designed to be extremely intuitive and easy to use in a high pressure situation. Almost everything is done with either a single button-press or a voice command. They even thought to put the voice control button right on the steering wheel. Oh, and it's coming sooner than you think. Many of these features are being tested and rolled out now in cities like Los Angeles, and they will be coming to more and more areas soon. As LTE blankets the country, these systems will follow, and over the course of the next few years it will be rule rather than the exception. Basically, there's never been a worse time to be on the cops' bad side.
abe supercro
Well-Known Member
Do not purchase anything motorola. tech- traitors.
gladstoned
Well-Known Member
I had an old lady on all kinds of shit just run into my parked car in a crowded parking lot. The officer said there is nothing he can do except write her a ticket (for accident, not being wasted) and wait for a few accidents. He said they cannot target old people or it would be their ass. Marijuana will not ever be looked at like that. And other than that, I am out of this conversation. lol.
ismokealotofpot
New Member
finally they wont be able to beat and taze us for no reason anymorehttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45510972#.T5Q159mYsdA
Police cars of the very near future will be scary smart. Equipped with eight cameras, voice commands, incredibly intelligent software, and LTE radios, perps won't get away with anything.
Motorola Solutions isn't working on building the latest and greatest Droid that's Motorola Mobility. These guys have their fingers more in corporate and governmental pots. Engineers have done hundreds of ride-alongs, surveys, and simulations, and have applied all of their wireless knowledge into designing a police car that is so advanced it's actually very unsettling. Here are some highlights:
Gizmodo The system could record up to 10,000 license plates during a typical patrol shift.
Automated license plate recognition
The car's outward facing cameras will be scanning every license plate that passes through their field of vision. Impossible, you say? Using infrared as well as standard cameras, Motorola says their system can see and store up 10,000 license plates in a shift. In bad weather. Even if there's a 130 mph difference in speed between the cars. All of which is insane. According to Motorola, "Typically, the system will scan and recognize a plate in about 1 to 2 seconds and compare it instantaneously against a locally stored database of plates of interest (i.e. stolen cars, known felons, people who haven't paid their parking tickets in years, etc)." The system would then alert the officer. Um, wow.
View a video of the future cop car on Gizmodo
A central database will also keep track of what cars were where and when. Why? Say there was a murder on the 100 block of X Street. Cops put the time of death at about 3 p.m. If a patrol car just happened to have passed by that block 15 minutes earlier, they have a list of all the cars that were parked in that area. If another killing happens somewhere else, and again, the cops had driven by some time around then, the system can cross-check those licenses and come up with a list of suspects. That's an extreme example, of course, but that's how it could be used. Could it also be misused? Yeah, it most definitely could.
LTE and cameras
All those cameras? In addition to constantly caching video, they can also stream it back to headquarters in realtime. If a cop pulls someone over, that means more eyes can be on the situation. Such a thing was impossible in the past because there was no wireless technology that could handle that kind of bandwidth. 4G to the rescue. The LTE also means that the officer in the field will have greatly enhanced access to remote computer systems.
LTE aside, the onboard computer will be a pair of eyes as well. The car may be able to see something the cop can't, especially at night, or when the officer is already over at the suspect's vehicle. If, for example, one of the cameras detects motion in the suspect's back seat, the computer system can sound an alert to warn the officer of potential danger. I'd say this has a high potential for false-positives, but I didn't get to see it in action. One of the ways it might alert the officer, besides the obvious bleat from the siren, is via the...
Gizmodo A Motorola-designed head-worn heads-up display would help cops manage data and control systems.
Advertise | AdChoices
Heads-up display glasses
Okay, so this one's still a little ways off. The unit I tested in the video above was very much a prototype. The screen that covered one of my eyes looked like a feature phone from a few years ago, it just did basic tasks, and it was slow to respond to voice commands. The concept, however, is very interesting. It would open the door not only for the car's computer or someone at headquarters to be able to relay messages to the officer as they are speaking with a suspect, but it could record video and offer more situational awareness than the officer would have with just the naked eyes. Infrared vision is just one of the possibilities.
View future cop car gallery on Gizmodo
Motorola's whole system is designed to be extremely intuitive and easy to use in a high pressure situation. Almost everything is done with either a single button-press or a voice command. They even thought to put the voice control button right on the steering wheel. Oh, and it's coming sooner than you think. Many of these features are being tested and rolled out now in cities like Los Angeles, and they will be coming to more and more areas soon. As LTE blankets the country, these systems will follow, and over the course of the next few years it will be rule rather than the exception. Basically, there's never been a worse time to be on the cops' bad side.
bob harris
Well-Known Member
Wow..I just saw robo cop ..Citizen..pull over
bob harris
Well-Known Member
Government control? We live in the freest country on Earth. Your far from a conservative constitutional American. Your more of a radical cry baby.
Have you even read the Constitution? You claim to be constitutional, yet are against everything in the Constitution....mind boggling.
bob harris
Well-Known Member
Unfortunately, a Felony on your record does have lifetime loss of rights involved. Once you have a felony, it's almost like lifetime parole, without the parole officer.
Timmahh
Well-Known Member
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URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v12/n233/a11.html
Newshawk: http://www.drugsense.org/donate.htm
Votes: 0
Webpage: http://mapinc.org/url/Pl7f6qG9
Pubdate: Sun, 22 Apr 2012
Source: Livingston County Daily Press & Argus (MI)
Copyright: 2012 Livingston Daily Press & Argus
Contact: http://drugsense.org/url/Kk1qVKJf
Website: http://www.livingstondaily.com
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/4265
Author: Denise A. Pollicella
Note: Denise A. Pollicella, managing partner of Cannabis Attorneys of
Mid-Michigan and a graduate of Wayne State University Law School, is
the mother of two and practices corporate law, business transactions
and medical marijuana law in Livingston County. She has degrees in
political science and French from the University of Michigan in Ann
Arbor, and is a founding member of the Michigan chapter of Mothers
United to End the War on Drugs. E-mail your comments to
[email protected].
RULING SENDS MICHIGAN MEDICAL MARIJUANA LAW UP IN SMOKE
In five brief pages full of legal reasoning and bereft of common sense, the Michigan Court of Appeals has, for all intents and purposes, rendered the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act useless.
On April 17, the court published its opinion in People v. Koon, holding that the MMMA does not contain an exemption for drivers under the state's criminal code, which prohibits operating a vehicle with any amount of a Schedule I controlled substance in your system.
The problem is that, unlike the other Schedule I drugs such as heroin and meth, the main active compound in marijuana, known as THC, stores in your fat cells, keeping it in your body for weeks, well after its affects have worn off, and no accurate test has been developed to determine when active THC becomes a harmless byproduct.
The effect of this decision, which flies in the face of a 2010 Michigan Supreme Court ruling, is that you cannot drive a car after ingesting medicinal marijuana without a presumption that you are breaking the law. Yes, you heard right. You can't be a medical marijuana patient and drive a car.
With legislation pending that would make marijuana patient card information available to law enforcement, the card could now, by itself, be used as prima facie evidence of impaired driving.
This decision is just one in a growing line of Michigan court rulings that not only clearly ignore the intent of the MMMA, but seem determined to strictly construe it out of existence.
Let's be clear. Marijuana is a plant that has been used as a medicine for thousands of years but, like any other drug, can be abused and used recreationally. The MMMA simply sought to carve out protection against criminal prosecution for seriously ill people or those with chronic pain to use this plant as an alternative to traditional drugs.
Sixty-three percent of Michigan's voters in 2008 thought it was a good idea. Voters and legislatures in 18 other states do, too. Seventy-five percent of the country agrees.
Since its inception, however, the MMMA has received no support from our elected officials and nothing but unadulterated attacks by law enforcement and the courts.
Very sick people, like Joseph Casias, whose life was quite literally saved by marijuana, but was then fired from his job for it, have become victims of a law meant to protect them.
Take a good look around. More than 130,000 people in Michigan are medical marijuana patients, and for every one with a card, there are five more who haven't registered, either because they have been using it for so long they don't want to bother, or because they are justifiably scared that they will be targeted. These aren't teenage potheads experimenting in the high school parking lot. These are your neighbors, your co-workers, your friends, your parents.
Koon finally takes the MMMA to its ridiculous conclusion, undermining the Michigan electorate and stating very plainly that it is up to the Legislature, not the courts, to fix this hazy law.
So, for those of you fed up with watching patients being arrested, fired, kicked out of their housing and separated from their children, for those of you tired of watching law enforcement spend valuable time and your tax money flying helicopters over open fields and clogging the courts with nonviolent, victimless possession charges, and for those of you shaking your heads at the incredulous way your local and state elected representatives have utterly failed to represent you, there's a way to fix this. It's called a voting booth. [/TD]
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URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v12/n233/a11.html
Newshawk: http://www.drugsense.org/donate.htm
Votes: 0
Webpage: http://mapinc.org/url/Pl7f6qG9
Pubdate: Sun, 22 Apr 2012
Source: Livingston County Daily Press & Argus (MI)
Copyright: 2012 Livingston Daily Press & Argus
Contact: http://drugsense.org/url/Kk1qVKJf
Website: http://www.livingstondaily.com
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/4265
Author: Denise A. Pollicella
Note: Denise A. Pollicella, managing partner of Cannabis Attorneys of
Mid-Michigan and a graduate of Wayne State University Law School, is
the mother of two and practices corporate law, business transactions
and medical marijuana law in Livingston County. She has degrees in
political science and French from the University of Michigan in Ann
Arbor, and is a founding member of the Michigan chapter of Mothers
United to End the War on Drugs. E-mail your comments to
[email protected].
RULING SENDS MICHIGAN MEDICAL MARIJUANA LAW UP IN SMOKE
In five brief pages full of legal reasoning and bereft of common sense, the Michigan Court of Appeals has, for all intents and purposes, rendered the Michigan Medical Marihuana Act useless.
On April 17, the court published its opinion in People v. Koon, holding that the MMMA does not contain an exemption for drivers under the state's criminal code, which prohibits operating a vehicle with any amount of a Schedule I controlled substance in your system.
The problem is that, unlike the other Schedule I drugs such as heroin and meth, the main active compound in marijuana, known as THC, stores in your fat cells, keeping it in your body for weeks, well after its affects have worn off, and no accurate test has been developed to determine when active THC becomes a harmless byproduct.
The effect of this decision, which flies in the face of a 2010 Michigan Supreme Court ruling, is that you cannot drive a car after ingesting medicinal marijuana without a presumption that you are breaking the law. Yes, you heard right. You can't be a medical marijuana patient and drive a car.
With legislation pending that would make marijuana patient card information available to law enforcement, the card could now, by itself, be used as prima facie evidence of impaired driving.
This decision is just one in a growing line of Michigan court rulings that not only clearly ignore the intent of the MMMA, but seem determined to strictly construe it out of existence.
Let's be clear. Marijuana is a plant that has been used as a medicine for thousands of years but, like any other drug, can be abused and used recreationally. The MMMA simply sought to carve out protection against criminal prosecution for seriously ill people or those with chronic pain to use this plant as an alternative to traditional drugs.
Sixty-three percent of Michigan's voters in 2008 thought it was a good idea. Voters and legislatures in 18 other states do, too. Seventy-five percent of the country agrees.
Since its inception, however, the MMMA has received no support from our elected officials and nothing but unadulterated attacks by law enforcement and the courts.
Very sick people, like Joseph Casias, whose life was quite literally saved by marijuana, but was then fired from his job for it, have become victims of a law meant to protect them.
Take a good look around. More than 130,000 people in Michigan are medical marijuana patients, and for every one with a card, there are five more who haven't registered, either because they have been using it for so long they don't want to bother, or because they are justifiably scared that they will be targeted. These aren't teenage potheads experimenting in the high school parking lot. These are your neighbors, your co-workers, your friends, your parents.
Koon finally takes the MMMA to its ridiculous conclusion, undermining the Michigan electorate and stating very plainly that it is up to the Legislature, not the courts, to fix this hazy law.
So, for those of you fed up with watching patients being arrested, fired, kicked out of their housing and separated from their children, for those of you tired of watching law enforcement spend valuable time and your tax money flying helicopters over open fields and clogging the courts with nonviolent, victimless possession charges, and for those of you shaking your heads at the incredulous way your local and state elected representatives have utterly failed to represent you, there's a way to fix this. It's called a voting booth. [/TD]
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gladstoned
Well-Known Member
This is all bullshit. I hate to be all doom and gloom but we are talking about politics. What good is the voting booth when you have Obama say vote for me I will get the troops home immediately and I will not fuck with medical marijuana patients. Then we use that piece of shit lying, rigged voting booth and the asshole sends more troops to Iraq and starts raiding dispensaries. What the fuck am I supposed to do, place him under citizen's arrest for being a lying fuck. They all are. 63% of Michigan Voted marijuana in. Who the fuck voted to have the governor sort out the details? Who the fuck ever said MMMA or CPU represents a mother fucking thing that I believe? Nothing but a bunch of fucking liars all the way around.
I do vote, but don't think for a minute that I believe every vote counts.
When the Democrats get jumped and get their lunch money stolen every single day on the way to school, how can I walk them to school and make sure they get there safe? I can't.
I do vote, but don't think for a minute that I believe every vote counts.
When the Democrats get jumped and get their lunch money stolen every single day on the way to school, how can I walk them to school and make sure they get there safe? I can't.