Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year

take a breath hic

Yea I did GD, but some shit just gets old.

I cannot wait to throw the first one in the ground!

One last note for the day. Friday morning a certain BW male meets some lucky ladies. The ladies names you ask? well those names are Blueberry,Black Widow, and last but not least CM's onion skunk pheno.

You are now welcome at my house. We may sit and smoke and chat.

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Right on man, I'd be honored to burn with you any day... You and I will smoke the first doobie off this plant right here...

This is my last kalashnakov bean.. It sprouted saturday so that would make it 6 days old today.. It's growing in the first batch of soil I mixed up.. Im going to take a picture of this plant once a week untill harvest.. Im also gonna do the same with a plant in a more conventional soil mix..

Same plant at a side angle, I held the straw behind the stalk so you could get an idea of how fat it is, for a seedling 6 days old it's huge.. As you can see the second true set of leaves are begining to open.. The plant has great color to it, and the leaves are growing at the same rate.. So far I'd deff say this plant is thriving in this soil...

Good looking plant Mary I Wanna. Remember I require a clone of everyones best at the end of summer.

jesus of Cannabis said:

there are 5 in the state and I am sure that they are not looking us little guys, they are looking for bigger fish.
But once again, if you stay legal and within the law you have nothing to fear.

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With the Redic restraints everyone at harvest time is 100% over except for those growing purly for themselves then id pull a plant a month.

So im at a sort of delema here I have g13 on the way and want to cross it with another female which will make female seed stock. Now since there is a recessive male chromosome in the plants which allows it to hermi is there a way to pull this gene out further?

I know true breeding females with the XX chromosomes are what good breeders look for to make female seeds because there is less of a chance to bring out bermi traits or even male plants in feminized seed stock im sure elite genetics have the XX chromosome for this reason and to keep ppl from possibly creating a male which is more saught after when talking about elite genetics.

Anyone know any good books on marijuana genetics? Or plant genetics in general

kbmed$ said:

So im at a sort of delema here I have g13 on the way and want to cross it with another female which will make female seed stock. Now since there is a recessive male chromosome in the plants which allows it to hermi is there a way to pull this gene out further?

I know true breeding females with the XX chromosomes are what good breeders look for to make female seeds because there is less of a chance to bring out bermi traits or even male plants in feminized seed stock im sure elite genetics have the XX chromosome for this reason and to keep ppl from possibly creating a male which is more saught after when talking about elite genetics.

Anyone know any good books on marijuana genetics? Or plant genetics in general

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Look around for some of the breeders threads there are lots o knowledgeable peeps in them.

The shit stain known as our Government is getting outta hand time to reign them in I say. Crazy fuckers are puttin a hurting on the common folk, so outta touch with us it aint funny....

delstele said:

The shit stain known as our Government is getting outta hand time to reign them in I say. Crazy fuckers are puttin a hurting on the common folk, so outta touch with us it aint funny....

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I would rather die fighting then from the cancers they are giving us! Never trust the FDA and quit drinking milk.

I remember the big push in the 90's over "drink milk" it was all over the billboards and commercials. Evil mo-fo's they are! Certain people knew that the hormones they were pumping into the cows would cause the cancers in their bodies.

Fuking reality is stranger then many fictions... no milk and shit for the hic

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Yea mon I quit drinking milk a long time ago, Now just godda get rid of the genetic altered corn....LOL

i have one of those older pole and canvas 2 car carports that are easy to put up.

ive been debating on installing one and haveing a lil outdoor grow with a few girls.

i have some old strains i have coming up from seeds i had stashed forever, i think id like to take a couple cuts off of and put outside to see how they fair.

hic said:

Hmmm what to say today? I will say this.

I am sick and tired of seeing all this shit. My brothers and sisters having to take pills just to get their brains fuked up enough to go to there jobs everyday. I am sick of all the lies I hear from our government. I am sick of people willing to kill me in an auto accident just to get a plate of fuking eggs at the restruant. I am sick of this shit they call art, their art looks like mentally handicapped children made them all "fredrick mejier gardens". I am sick of the quality of products I am buying. I am sick of this joke america calls churches. I am sick of lawmakers making laws "fuk we got enough to see us threw till 3015 AD". I am sick of people destroying this world. I am sick of people believing they are in competition with one another. I am sick of many of Americas plentifull opinions and damning ideas. I am sick of the idea of my father working until he is damn near dead. I am sick of alot of shit I won't even list .. cause I have vented a bit with that paragraph.
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GOD DAMN RIGHT HIC!!!!!!!!!

you just moved up about ten notches in my book for that rant..i feel the same way!

you guys gotta realize EVERYTHING store bought you put in your body is 100% altered in some way shape or form, most are geneticly altered or organicly selected over time..my problem lies withing being lazy and eating mcD's or taco bell..and the fact their grade D meat isnt really meat at all.

I do grow a victory garden every year now, tho small I do atleast get a good amount of organic fresh produce and as soon as im out of the urban area's and back to the woods I plan to be fully self sufficant food wise and probably only have to buy meat from a local farm fresh free range cattle ..lol...my ol lady couldnt handle murk'n our own livestock she'd get attached...

i watched a doc. on beef recently and they were saying that the fact that the feed their cattle corn, which their not supposed to be eating full time, and its really bad for us, the cattle themselves if they were not slaughtered when they are would actually die from heart failure from too much carbon from the corn, now when you eat this beef full of carbon what do you think it does to you? and EVERY ANIMAL that isnt free range, eats this corn feed and carrys the same danger.

think of hybrid meat chickens the grow rediculously fast within ten weeks they are so fat and heavy that they cant walk. they just sit down next to the food and water. if you let them live past the ten weeks their legs can break and they'll have a stroke or heart attack.

^^^^ this is all true!! That's why when I lived in Cali I voted yes to making a animals free range. Grass fed free range animals taste better and are better for you.

for the up and coming breeders out there heres a good like 90 page read

http://www.scribd.com/doc/21255032/Marijuana-Botany-an-Advanced-Study

going along with what i posted earlier as well anyone know about the "bitter harvest - the poisoning of michigan" where most people in michigan were poisoned with PBB through dairy farms, PBB is a flame retardent and was manufactured in the same place as an additive for livstock feed, the bags of each chemical where exactly the same and the only way to tell the difference was to open the bag and taste it. well some of the PBB got mixed up and sent to the feed facility and put in the animals food, this was shipped across michigan to hundreds of dairy farms and fed to tens of thousands of different live stock. PBB sticks to the fat cells inside the body of a living organism thus after the cows ate it, it was passed to us thru the meat and milk from livestock wether it be chicken, beef whatev ate it that we ate, so everyone in michigan that drank the milk, ate the beef, chicken was now infected with PBB and high concentrations of it was killing ppl and the animals. there are still ppl today in michigan with traces of PBB in their bodies mainly the decendents from the farms and those most exposed to it on a dialy basis.

I'm looking for a good elite male of og kush/ chemdawg/ sour d origin like cali conecs blackwater. or gage green seeds grape stomper x chemdawg "snowman" sour d in reg seed form to find a male to cross with my sour kush and G13...any ideas?

watched a doc. on beef recently and they were saying that the fact that the feed their cattle corn, which their not supposed to be eating full time, and its really bad for us, the cattle themselves if they were not slaughtered when they are would actually die from heart failure from too much carbon from the corn, now when you eat this beef full of carbon what do you think it does to you? and EVERY ANIMAL that isnt free range, eats this corn feed and carrys the same danger.

think of hybrid meat chickens the grow rediculously fast within ten weeks they are so fat and heavy that they cant walk. they just sit down next to the food and water. if you let them live past the ten weeks their legs can break and they'll have a stroke or heart attack.

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KB,
I grew up on a working cattle farm, that my parents still operate.. My grandfather had a hog farm, and he also raised chickens... Yes eating all that corn is bad for the cattle.. In the wild cows would eat grass and other leafy greens.. Their teeth were not designed to crush the hard grains we are feeding them.. The reason they are feed corn is of course to fatten them up faster, but it also plays a big roll in flavoring the meat.. There's no comparison between a grass feed cow and a grain fed cow. Taste wise and price wise, the grain fed wins hands down.. It's not the fat content of the meat or what the animal is fed you should be worried about.. It's the antibiotics and growth hormones they pump them full of, that are doing the damage... All animals now days cows, pigs, and chickens, are given a cocktail of injections when they are born.. To make them grow faster and bigger, and to prevent illnesses and disease.. That would be like us taking steriods, or the dr giving us penecilin just so we dont get sick.. This is whats causing antibiotic resistant bacteria, and all the obesity in people.. If we give our food suply drugs to make it fatter faster, what the hell do you think is gonna happen to us when we consume that animal..? The farmers don't have a choice, if they dont give it to their animals there's no way they can compete with the ones who do... It's common sense really when you think about it, but then again most of the so called smart people in the world, wouldn't have enough common sense to save their ass if their life depended on it.... I've been lucky, I've never had to buy much food from the super market.. I'd damn near be a vegeterian though, before I ate that proccesed shit they call fresh meat.......

The one thing that bothers me with the developement of Michigan's marijuana law is the vauge way in which it was written.
Legislators did not want to deal with the legal aspects so they in effect left it up to the courts/law enforcement to decide with limited guidelines.
It seemed everyone had their own intrepretation of the law, despite these drawbacks the law is working well with limited isolated cases of abuse.
What is developing that I dont agree with are dispensarys, and marijuana clubs that are springing up, the MMP dosent address these dispensarys at all.
Most are charging upwards of $20.00 gram, $300-$400 oz. These greedy people are not in this business to help, they are here to rip, and in the process give everyone a bad name.

TDM said:

The one thing that bothers me with the developement of Michigan's marijuana law is the vauge way in which it was written.
Legislators did not want to deal with the legal aspects so they in effect left it up to the courts/law enforcement to decide with limited guidelines.
It seemed everyone had their own intrepretation of the law, despite these drawbacks the law is working well with limited isolated cases of abuse.
What is developing that I dont agree with are dispensarys, and marijuana clubs that are springing up, the MMP dosent address these dispensarys at all.
Most are charging upwards of $20.00 gram, $300-$400 oz. These greedy people are not in this business to help, they are here to rip, and in the process give everyone a bad name.

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I don't have a problem with dispensaries. They provide a large variety of meds as bud, butter, hash, tincture, cremes, pipes, vaporizers etc. Its a great way to try different meds until you can find the ones that best suit you. $300-$400 per ounce is not unfair IMO. Personally I don't see any reason to devalue something that takes a tremendous amount of energy, resources, effort and skill to produce. I would call $300 per oz a bargain. My local dispensaries are setup as cooperatives, so if you join you can get reduced pricing and work with members. Instead of dispensary they should be called weed brokers lol. The dispensary not only has to pay the farmer for their labor but they have to pay for their business overhead and taxes. In the mean time they operate as a non-profit organization and typically donate to causes in the community. They are passing the buck to the patient as it should be. Purchasing meds by the gram can be more costly, but I think of it as a convenience charge. My local dispensaries charge about 15/g for most strains and offer clones for $30.

Not to say there aren't some major douchers running dispensaries out there, because there certainly are. I support the ones I like and watch the rest of them fail.

as far as dispensaries, I go with the old Coke slogan, "I want to teach the world to sing..." but replace sing with grow. I want to teach the world to grow and never have to pay the ridiculous prices of dispensaries. I understand they serve a purpose for some people but if they would just come out and say they are for profit and tyring to make a buck then fine, but masking their true intentions...ahh fuck it, you all have heard the rant before.

I have switched from regular beef to buffalo grown in TC at the Olesons farm a few years ago and I think I am healthier for it. may pay a bit more but it really is better for you, leaner, tastier and runs right thru you if eaten with a nice organic salad.

jesus of Cannabis said:

as far as dispensaries, I go with the old Coke slogan, "I want to teach the world to sing..." but replace sing with grow. I want to teach the world to grow and never have to pay the ridiculous prices of dispensaries. I understand they serve a purpose for some people but if they would just come out and say they are for profit and tyring to make a buck then fine, but masking their true intentions...ahh fuck it, you all have heard the rant before.

I have switched from regular beef to buffalo grown in TC at the Olesons farm a few years ago and I think I am healthier for it. may pay a bit more but it really is better for you, leaner, tastier and runs right thru you if eaten with a nice organic salad.

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I don't think they're making as much as a lot of people think they are. There is a lot of cash flow no doubt, but at the end of the day they have a lot of expense. They do deserve to make a living and at the cost they pay farmers for their product the markup is marginal considering the risk they take and the time they put into running a reputable dispensary. Those that operate outside of the non-profit requirements will burn, those that are smart and run it like a business as opposed to being glorified drug dealers will do very well and I will support them. The dispensary/member/coops are really cool IMO. I'm not active locally because I prefer to remain as an unknown in my local community, but I foresee places outside of my community being a great way to dispense overages and exchange product when the time comes for me.

Some people go in and pay what they ask but it seems that the member coops offer fair pricing to those who are members. I know one of my local dispensaries even provides meds for certain indigent patients at no cost which I think is really cool. That along with spending money to help the community makes them a definite positive IMO. Another bonus - Nothing like a variety of 20-30 different kinds of bud to choose from and new clones/strains to offer your patients if you have them.

Happy Holiday everyone, time to medicate with a PPP/Crystal/Hash blunt! Better make some eating arrangements ahahah.