MH all the way

ttystikk

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luckily I was ok for the first 5 yrs or so.
Back in the early 90s there were no remote ballasts, or even hps wired for 115 at the time.
I used a non remote warehouse ballast 400 w mh and the smoke I grew was fabulous, way better than what I could buy locally in santa cruz, and we are known for some good herb.
the MH will absolutely grow fantastic buds, and there wasn't even a need for suicidal thoughts.
BULLSHIT. I ran a thousand watt HPS lamp in a parabolic reflector on a magnetic ballast that plugged into my 120V wall socket. Through the eighties AND into the nineties.
 

GrowerGoneWild

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BULLSHIT. I ran a thousand watt HPS lamp in a parabolic reflector on a magnetic ballast that plugged into my 120V wall socket. Through the eighties AND into the nineties.
I wonder if he picked up a light wired for 277 or those other wierd volatages.. Thats why he had the sparky look at it.

parabolics.. oh man, those were the days.
 

ttystikk

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I wonder if he picked up a light wired for 277 or those other wierd volatages.. Thats why he had the sparky look at it.

parabolics.. oh man, those were the days.
I dug my open parabolic fixture. The bulb was still mounted horizontally, so I had some light distribution issues to solve... which I did, with a light rotator! It was a great solution and helped me grow a lot of bud back in the day.
 

ttystikk

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Fuck it use both
4-300watt LED and 1000watt HPS air cooled hood in a 4x4 tent. Overkill? I think not
Is this a random LED unit or is it purpose built to match with and complement the spectrum output of an HPS lamp? I think the idea has possibilities...
 

Cpappa27

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Is this a random LED unit or is it purpose built to match with and complement the spectrum output of an HPS lamp? I think the idea has possibilities...
They are full spectrum LEDs. Used 8 last time around and was very happy with the quality, taste, smell, frostiness the LEDs provided. Similar to when I used T5s for a whole grow bud much more yield than that. Not as much yield as the HPS but I feel the quality was better as far as smell and taste goes. So I said screw it and am trying both.
 

kmog33

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Fuck it use both
4-300watt LED and 1000watt HPS air cooled hood in a 4x4 tent. Overkill? I think not
So ~1600 total watts from the wall? I think in a 4x4 with that you should be pulling ~3-4 pounds? I think you're about at the max wattage I would put in a 4x4, but I would still be aiming for 4+ lbs and if I wasn't hitting that I would say the setup with 4 led panels is overkill.

I don't know what a 4x4 maxes out at, space wise, maybe 5lbs? So if you've got much more than 1800-2000 watts it would definitely be overkill.


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Cpappa27

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So ~1600 total watts from the wall? I think in a 4x4 with that you should be pulling ~3-4 pounds? I think you're about at the max wattage I would put in a 4x4, but I would still be aiming for 4+ lbs and if I wasn't hitting that I would say the setup with 4 led panels is overkill.

I don't know what a 4x4 maxes out at, space wise, maybe 5lbs? So if you've got much more than 1800-2000 watts it would definitely be overkill.


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Im excited to see the out come.
 

ttystikk

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So ~1600 total watts from the wall? I think in a 4x4 with that you should be pulling ~3-4 pounds? I think you're about at the max wattage I would put in a 4x4, but I would still be aiming for 4+ lbs and if I wasn't hitting that I would say the setup with 4 led panels is overkill.

I don't know what a 4x4 maxes out at, space wise, maybe 5lbs? So if you've got much more than 1800-2000 watts it would definitely be overkill.


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Overkill is exactly my kind of grow!
 

greasemonkeymann

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BULLSHIT. I ran a thousand watt HPS lamp in a parabolic reflector on a magnetic ballast that plugged into my 120V wall socket. Through the eighties AND into the nineties.
no need to be surly about it, I wish I still had it so I could show you guys, the socket was built into the ceramic and metal housing.
At the time there was NO other option for the 400w system, at that time, from where I was, this was before the days of the internet.
NO WAY I could possibly run a 1k light in there, so whether or not there was a 1k light was irrelevant to me at the time.
You guys and your disrespect...
Maybe it'll come with age.
I'm not in the habit of saying anything untrue or anything based from conjecture on this site. At least if I can help it, nobody is perfect.
but I sure as hell don't spread misinformation.
 

ttystikk

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no need to be surly about it, I wish I still had it so I could show you guys, the socket was built into the ceramic and metal housing.
At the time there was NO other option for the 400w system, at that time, from where I was, this was before the days of the internet.
NO WAY I could possibly run a 1k light in there, so whether or not there was a 1k light was irrelevant to me at the time.
You guys and your disrespect...
Maybe it'll come with age.
I'm not in the habit of saying anything untrue or anything based from conjecture on this site. At least if I can help it, nobody is perfect.
but I sure as hell don't spread misinformation.
So if I was growing in the eighties, how old do you suppose I am?

Btw, I got that kit from a young upstart company just getting on its feet in the mail order business... 'Hydrofarm'. Perhaps you've heard of them?
 

greasemonkeymann

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So if I was growing in the eighties, how old do you suppose I am?

Btw, I got that kit from a young upstart company just getting on its feet in the mail order business... 'Hydrofarm'. Perhaps you've heard of them?
Course I heard of them, but they didn't make the 400w back then, nor would I have mail-ordered it anyways, this was when the paranoia was relatively high.
doesn't matter how old you are, respect is learned/realized, not given based on age.
I didn't disrespect you, in fact seemed like we had similar beliefs/philosophies.
But it's all good man, I don't mind.
I know plenty of old curmudgeons that don't respect anyone.
Take care of your self man, keep on growing.
I mean that with all the respect in the world, i'm not into participating in internet quarrels, they are pointless and only contaminate your own fishtank.
 

ttystikk

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Course I heard of them, but they didn't make the 400w back then, nor would I have mail-ordered it anyways, this was when the paranoia was relatively high.
doesn't matter how old you are, respect is learned/realized, not given based on age.
I didn't disrespect you, in fact seemed like we had similar beliefs/philosophies.
But it's all good man, I don't mind.
I know plenty of old curmudgeons that don't respect anyone.
Take care of your self man, keep on growing.
I mean that with all the respect in the world, i'm not into participating in internet quarrels, they are pointless and only contaminate your own fishtank.
Sorry if I sound a lil snappy- it's the RIU thick skin thing, I guess.

The first one piece 400W systems were simply rebuilt street lights. You know they worked, and had their drawbacks.

The truth is, I wish I still had that old horizontal parabolic reflector! I lost it when I got busted for growing... in 1991.
 

greasemonkeymann

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Sorry if I sound a lil snappy- it's the RIU thick skin thing, I guess.

The first one piece 400W systems were simply rebuilt street lights. You know they worked, and had their drawbacks.

The truth is, I wish I still had that old horizontal parabolic reflector! I lost it when I got busted for growing... in 1991.
no worries man, we're all good.
That's just brutal man... I was so paranoid back in the day, I redid my entire attic with the aluminum insulation because of paranoia from the feds using thermal imaging, once they stopped doing that is when I could add more lights, running at night instead.
Used to always trip on the exhaust fan melting a nice OBVIOUS path off the frost on top of the house.
I grew CRAP in 91... didn't ever get a good solid harvest until probably the mid nineties (right around prop 215 in CA or so), the first like four harvests I did with just shop flourescents... they sucked balls as you could imagine, growing from mexi brick weed, fuckin "cured" my first harvest in the damn oven... :wall:
ahh the days.. course I was 12, in 1989, so I didn't know shit.
 

TheChemist77

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back in the early 90's i had gotten a couple MH ballast's off construction job sites, and i had ripped a hps out of a jewels parking lot.. i miss them old ass lights,, they lasted damn near 20 years but i tossed em wen i went to the digital ballasts... personally i liked the old magnetic better, air cooled no fans, ill be lucky if the new digital ballasts last 10 years.. i already had 2 digital ballasts crap out, both wer not even 2 years old and i think it was the cooling fan,,idk but they just dont build stuff like they used too..i still have a 400 watt magnetic hps ballast i refuse to throw away, its been throu hell n back n still works..its been used as a stool,kicked around,sat in a wet garage, dented,dings,rust, but still works,,im not using it,but its a back up sure fire, if any more of the digitals crap out,,,
 
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