Mescaline

Impman

Impman

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After a deep breath, the quest continues today. Starting the San Pedro tea, I will try and boil it as long as possible in a crock pot. Going for 12-24 hours... was gonna do 24 but running the crock pot at night is kinda sketch, I don't want to burn the mescaline up. 12 hours will suffice as I have seen before............if I fail on this attempt then I will resign to drinking straight San Pedro tea . A simple A/B should not be this complicated......hoping it was just the tea preparation and too much citric acid....... ... I want to see those pure mescaline HCl crystals. Not asking for much...just a half gram to a gram would make me happy.....here we go
 
rory420420

rory420420

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Good luck bro..nothing would be better to have you post something like this....'took .2mg an hour ago andkejeujfcbekslslslsnahhruwikxdkmw w. HOLY SHIT IM FRIED!'
 
Impman

Impman

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The tea was boiled for 24 hours almost. .....the tea is cooling..... the tea is dark.......the tea looks sinister......the tea is ready..... I'm just happy I am not gonna try and drink this stuff.... no offense to the Native Americans that observe this religion . But I have drank enough teas to say, the sacred cactus taste like the most god aweful shit you can imagine.....and if this extraction fails once again, I will gladly make teas until my dying days because mescaline is worth it..... at least for me.... Mescalito and I still have some things to talk about
 
Impman

Impman

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In a crock pot.... I put it on high for 6 hours...then another 6.... then when I went to bed I put it on the low 10 hour setting...I use to blend up the cactus and boil it for 4 hours(which works fine) but now I cut it into strips and put it in the crock pot........ This is exactly what I did for the 4th of July conundrum. I ended up with 3 1/2 cups of tea that day... I drank one cup and I met God.... I forgot I even had more tea to drink....
 
MrEDuck

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Ok, are you doing freeze thaw cycles on the fresh cactus after you remove the core or anything like that? It really does help you get more into the tea.
 
Impman

Impman

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i did not..... i thought that was hocus pocus.....next time..... I have to get the 30$ monster cactus they have, sadly i dont have a truck.., oh well ... the nursery dude will just look at me puzzled as always when i start cutting the cactus to fit in my trunk...... I will freeze thaw next time for sure..... thats IF i get some crystals out of this tea.... I have it boiled down to about 300 ml.


oh shit almost forgot..... is muriatic acid ready to go?? it says 30%...... i dont need to do any chemistry on the muriatic acid before i mix it with dry ISO ... right? 1 part muriatic(HCl) 9 parts dry ISO total 10ml.
 
MrEDuck

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Maybe go 1 part in 19 and then cook it all off after you collect the crystals and hit it again a few times to keep the amount of water used at a given time as small as possible. 0.25mL of con HCl is enough to yield just under 750mg of mescaline HCl. I don't know how much mescaline you expect to have which is a big factor in how much HCl to use. But the only chemistry is trying to figure out the optimal amount of HCl to use each time. How much cactus did you use and how many trips do you think it would have given you and how intense?
 
Impman

Impman

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So, 1 ml of HCI mixed in 19 ml dry ISO could potentially yield 3000mg of mescaline...if its there ... The last tea I made similar to this I think was 1000mg to a 240ml.... so i will estimate 1200mg..
but this could be low by 1000mgs
 
MrEDuck

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Just try to minimize the amount of water in there at any given time. If you think you have 3000mg worth of mesc I'd do it as two additions since your nonpolar solvent is higher boiling than the IPA and mesc can take a lot of heat.
 
Impman

Impman

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i Think I understand. you have been more than helpful at any rate.......... very little HCl..... deep breath
 
MrEDuck

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There shouldn't be any color change but it you can see color change from very slight impurities. Was this HCl into your extract in xylene or HCl into neat Xylene that did it?
 
Impman

Impman

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I mixed the HCl with the dry alcohol and it was clear, I added it to the xylene and it turned pink. I separated the pink layer from the xylene .... I must have misunderstood you when you said cook down the alcohol/HCl solution... if you said that.....because when I put it in my stainless steel pot at very low heat the HCl/alcohol vaporized and my house smells like a meth lab. At the bottom of the stainless steel pot was nothing...i watched the remaining alcohol evaporate into the air... i tried to scrape and there was a very very tiny faint bit of greenish shit...... obviously I am not doing a step correctly......

Anyways, there is still about 50 ml of xylene in the funnel, it was washed through once with dry alcohol/HCl solution. I hope there is still mescaline left.... i dont know what I hope actually...just confused
 
Impman

Impman

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Too much HCl i think.... 1 ml for 20 ml alcohol....maybe just like .5 ml or .25??? a few drops?
 
Impman

Impman

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And I have only added solution to the Sodiumhydroxide/cactus one time.... I wanted to do a half run to see if I got anything and to not waste any alkaloids if I fucked up the first time...which i did... So there is still material to work with.......

Ok, I did another HCl solution with dry ISO, I added it back to the Xylene in the funnel. Now there is NO seperation at all between the Xylene and HCI solution!? JUst a real light pink liquid.... I went ahead and poured it onto my glass pyrex pan to evaporate.... the Xylene will evaporate off i think
 
MrEDuck

MrEDuck

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You should see crystals form as you slowly add the alcoholic HCl as the HCl will react with the freebase mescaline t form the salt. If you have too much water it can dissolve the mescaline and you need to separate it and then dry it and it does have a rather suspicious odor.
Try evaporating a smal amount of the xylenes to see what kind of residue you have.
 
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