budlover13
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The ones that did the right thing got shut down in my personal experience.
Medical pot returning to underground - LA Times
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lolzers, thought you were implying that Nixon was attempting to fix the price of weed. That would have been the day. He did have some pretty crazy ideas though, like mass arrest and detention of counter cultural people (like all of us).
Mithrandir420
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Personally I think the prices are low enough. We already have low end cheap herb that almost anyone can afford.
Some people can afford expensive wine, others have to drink 2 buck chuck. Not everyone gets to smoke the kind.
Some people can afford expensive wine, others have to drink 2 buck chuck. Not everyone gets to smoke the kind.
Dan Kone
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Exactly correct. Our backwards assed regulation system allowed the scum to rise to the top and the people doing it the right way get shut down.
HUSTLERBOY20
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I was wondering why there were so many " Middle Easterners " running these shops lol...now I get it all
richinweed
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If this is the case i think all the legal grows better go underground....as now they have names and numbers...I often wondered when they would use those "lists" against the growers....is this whats happening i wonder?
d.s.m.
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I've been saying exactly this for a long time now. While there were (and may still be?) some honestly altruistic clubs, most of those fuckers would sell underage pussy if they could claim it was for medical reasons.
Dan Kone
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Yep. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these club owners were doing just that before they got a dispensary.
I overestimated these guys by a lot. Most of them are just fucking criminals that somehow ended up with dispensaries. I thought they'd at least see the big picture and understand that they could just as easily get shut down if they didn't all stand together against the feds. But really, none of them had any interest in that what so ever. They see this as a short term get rich quick scheme and that's it.
Dan Kone
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It's beyond them not doing good things, it's a lot of them do bad things. As you can see from the sticky thread up there, a lot of them flat out steal from their own vendors and employees even. I'd say the MAJORITY, yes, over 50%, are running a ponzi scheme at this point. And I know of some that do significantly worse things. Many of these dispensaries are strait up crime operations.
In theory, dispensaries should be a good thing even if they are acting purely in their own self interest. But due to over regulation they've basically been given monopolies on the bud trade in many areas and in most cases it's the worst types of scumbags who end up running them.
If the general public found out some of the crap that goes on behind the scenes at these places they'd all be shut down tomorrow.
Two things, what do you think the dispensaries standing together against the feds could achieve, how would they do this?
Why doesn't the public have access to this information? If these practices are known, who has the information and is not sharing it? Does that make those people partly culpable for the wrongs these dispensaries supposedly do?
Why doesn't the public have access to this information? If these practices are known, who has the information and is not sharing it? Does that make those people partly culpable for the wrongs these dispensaries supposedly do?
Dan Kone
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Pooling their money together to afford an elite defense team, like an OJ style defense force. In addition to that I believe a super-pac is necessary. There has to be negative political consequences towards these drug war types if we want them to leave us alone.
It's the behind the scene stuff that happens at dispensaries. Only people on the inside really know.
Maybe, IDK. I don't think it would be a good thing if all that dirty laundry came out. It'd ruin any chance at legitimacy for 215.
If it does not fit, you must acquit is a long way away from fighting in court about law that has been settled for close to 100 years. Especially when some of the largest global industries oppose any kind of change to that law. The kind of money the dispensaries could pool together for some type of legal engagement would be insignificant compared to their opposition. A super-pac would be a drop in the bucket. The empire wins.
Unless peoples hearts and minds are won by the genuine positivity of this plant and its relationship to humans. That is unlikely when people passively allow corruption and criminal behavior (actual criminal behavior, the kind that actually harms other people) to flourish,
Unless peoples hearts and minds are won by the genuine positivity of this plant and its relationship to humans. That is unlikely when people passively allow corruption and criminal behavior (actual criminal behavior, the kind that actually harms other people) to flourish,
george xxx
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I agree somewhat but at the same time I must disagree. The clubs are doing exactly what the government and corporate america has taught them to do. Charge the most amount of money you can get people to pay. It is the american way. It is also proof positive of how stupid people are. If no one will buy at $50 an eight what will happen to the cost
Every commercial farmer in the country shares this desire for their share of profits but they will never get it.
PeyoteReligion
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Grow pot and sell it illegally. Fuck the government. They can't tax the underground maket.
Dan Kone
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I'm not suggesting they use the same defense as OJ, just that they should build a world class legal team, which together they most certainly can afford.
They have a key fact on their side. That law which makes marijuana illegal is based on a falsehood. Medical marijuana is illegal because marijuana is a schedule 1 narcotic which is defined by having "no medical use". That has been sufficiently been proven false in the last 25 years. There are hundreds of peer reviewed medical studies which is the standard we go buy in this country. There has to be a legal channel to challenge that in court.
So no, it wouldn't be a hopeless fight because the facts are on our side and together the dispensaries should have enough money to put together a legitimate legal challenge.
That depends how much the other side is willing to invest. Medical marijuana in Cali alone brings in over 10 billion dollars I believe. This isn't pocket change anymore.
That's why a pac is necessary. We need a PR campaign. We need ads and we need to pay politicians who will speak out in favor of it. They'd be much more willing to do this if there was campaign money in it for them.
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Dan Kone
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Also wanted to say that I find your skepticism an admirable quality. Good for you for not just accepting what people say as fact. I'm the same way and it pisses a lot of people off.
Respect...
Dan Kone
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The fucked up part is that I know a lot of really good people in this business. They are almost always barely scraping by and everyone always tries to get over on them.