Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

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Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
"progressives" crying about getting literal nazis fired.

speaking out against "doxxing" nazis who go out into public spaces showing their faces, openly.

fucking retarded.
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No, progressives are criticizing your prefered tactic, as usual. The kids make a mess and the adults have to clean it up. Your tactic ensures more violence, more division among Americans. You wish to employ it because it makes your fee fee's feel better, not because it works. You're selfishly endorsing violence to quell your own egotistical urges. Not for any actual justice. Not because you actually care that people are getting hurt.

I'm sure all the nonviolent organizers in history would be ashamed of you and your ilk. You have no regard for history or humanity. You think everyone's opinion who thinks differently than you do is irrelevant/racist/sexist.

I would truly hate to be you
 
Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
padaraper: "please provide examples"

me: [provides example]

padaraper WAAAAHHHHHHHH
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Your favored tactic couldn't even beat the most hated politician in the Senate

Grimes wouldn't even admit she voted for Obama, she tried to play the Republican lite role and lost to the actual Republican.

Who could have guessed?!
 
Justin-case

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Padawanbater2 said:
No, progressives are criticizing your prefered tactic, as usual. The kids make a mess and the adults have to clean it up. Your tactic ensures more violence, more division among Americans. You wish to employ it because it makes your fee fee's feel better, not because it works. You're selfishly endorsing violence to quell your own egotistical urges. Not for any actual justice. Not because you actually care that people are getting hurt.

I'm sure all the nonviolent organizers in history would be ashamed of you and your ilk. You have no regard for history or humanity. You think everyone's opinion who thinks differently than you do is irrelevant/racist/sexist.

I would truly hate to be you
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Not as much as they'd be about generation duct taped buttholes.
 
UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
No, progressives are criticizing your prefered tactic, as usual. The kids make a mess and the adults have to clean it up. Your tactic ensures more violence, more division among Americans. You wish to employ it because it makes your fee fee's feel better, not because it works. You're selfishly endorsing violence to quell your own egotistical urges. Not for any actual justice. Not because you actually care that people are getting hurt.

I'm sure all the nonviolent organizers in history would be ashamed of you and your ilk. You have no regard for history or humanity. You think everyone's opinion who thinks differently than you do is irrelevant/racist/sexist.

I would truly hate to be you
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first off, you're not a progressive. see "f***ots", "herd like mentality", "men's rights", duct tape, etc.

second, naming and shaming and getting nazis fired is not violence.

although i do advocate for killing nazis. it's basic self-defense and just good policy.
 
UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
Your favored tactic couldn't even beat the most hated politician in the Senate

Grimes wouldn't even admit she voted for Obama, she tried to play the Republican lite role and lost to the actual Republican.

Who could have guessed?!
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padaraper: "please provide examples"

me: [provides example]

padaraper: but what about...
 
_gresh_

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"And who's to say who a Nazi is? Do any of you think you have the moral clarity to be judge, jury, and exucutioner?"

Yea, he's right. There's no way to tell that those guys throwing nazi salutes, wearing swastikas and waving confederate flags chanting "Blood and Soil" and "Fuck you faggots" were actually Nazis.

We should respect that they are human and give them an understanding ear, not a boot to the throat....

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Padawanbater2

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_gresh_ said:
"And who's to say who a Nazi is? Do any of you think you have the moral clarity to be judge, jury, and exucutioner?"

Yea, he's right. There's no way to tell that those guys throwing nazi salutes, wearing swastikas and waving confederate flags chanting "Blood and Soil" and "Fuck you faggots" were actually Nazis.

We should respect that they are human and give them an understanding ear, not a boot to the throat....

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Take it up with the 1st amendment. I don't agree with anything they're saying, but they damn well have a right to say it. To commit violence towards them is no different from them committing violence towards an LGBT or African American protest for the simple fact that they believe differently. The fact is, it doesn't matter who you are or what you believe, if you're an American citizen, you are afforded all the same rights in the Constitution that I am. The 1st amendment is there to protect the speech you disagree with the most. Censoring speech is authoritarian. Assaulting people who say something you don't like only proves how weak your position is to begin with. If you believe in your position and believe you're right, there is no reason you would resort to violence to prove it. You would be able to prove it, among rational people, with words, not violence.
 
Justin-case

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Padawanbater2 said:
Take it up with the 1st amendment. I don't agree with anything they're saying, but they damn well have a right to say it. To commit violence towards them is no different from them committing violence towards an LGBT or African American protest for the simple fact that they believe differently. The fact is, it doesn't matter who you are or what you believe, if you're an American citizen, you are afforded all the same rights in the Constitution that I am. The 1st amendment is there to protect the speech you disagree with the most. Censoring speech is authoritarian. Assaulting people who say something you don't like only proves how weak your position is to begin with. If you believe in your position and believe you're right, there is no reason you would resort to violence to prove it. You would be able to prove it, among rational people, with words, not violence.
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Lol, even mitt Romney disagrees with you, mitt fucking Romney.
 
Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
you are aware that nazis want to kill me and my family, right?
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If any Nazi physically assaults you, you have my full support in defending yourself.

If any Nazi want's to express his 1st amendment rights, and you get so offended you feel you have to respond with physical violence, I'll be on the Nazi's side 100% of the time.
 
_gresh_

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Padawanbater2 said:
Take it up with the 1st amendment. I don't agree with anything they're saying, but they damn well have a right to say it. To commit violence towards them is no different from them committing violence towards an LGBT or African American protest for the simple fact that they believe differently. The fact is, it doesn't matter who you are or what you believe, if you're an American citizen, you are afforded all the same rights in the Constitution that I am. The 1st amendment is there to protect the speech you disagree with the most. Censoring speech is authoritarian. Assaulting people who say something you don't like only proves how weak your position is to begin with. If you believe in your position and believe you're right, there is no reason you would resort to violence to prove it. You would be able to prove it, among rational people, with words, not violence.
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Seriously disappointed with you Pad.
 
Padawanbater2

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_gresh_ said:
Seriously disappointed with you Pad.
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It has nothing to do with what is being said. Everyone is afforded the right to say it regardless of how you or I might feel about it. I think it's deplorable, maybe you missed that. I don't agree with anything they said. But I think it's important to protect their right to say it. Because what happens when you say something controversial, and you get in trouble for saying it? Just because the conventional opinion disagrees with you?

You say what you want, and I have a right to say what you said is fucking retarded, and point out why. We have the right to say what Donald Trump said is fucking retarded. The most powerful person in the world. You don't have that right in other countries. I think we have to protect everyone's right to say whatever they want openly and freely, without the threat of prosecution or violence for it. Especially, if I disagree with it.
 
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