Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

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Padawanbater2

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Or that how duct taped assholes are not degrading women.
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There is nothing wrong with degradation in a sexual context so long as consent is given by all parties. Again, feel free to be offended and clutch your puritanical pearls all you want. But to pretend there is anything wrong with what consenting adults enjoying something you might find personally offensive choose to do is none of your business. This is what religious fundamentalists do with gay people.
 
tangerinegreen555

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Padawanbater2 said:
There is nothing wrong with degradation in a sexual context so long as consent is given by all parties. Again, feel free to be offended and clutch your puritanical pearls all you want. But to pretend there is anything wrong with what consenting adults enjoying something you might find personally offensive choose to do is none of your business. This is what religious fundamentalists do with gay people.
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We're talking about porn, not two normal consenting adults.

If you can't see the difference, you're dense. Very dense.
 
tangerinegreen555

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Padawanbater2 said:
OK, doc, instead of repeating the same thing, why not explain why you believe consentual porn is wrong?
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Goddamn. We were discussing whether it's degrading to women.

It is.

Consentual has zero to do with whether it's degrading. Is prostitution degrading even if it's consentual by both parties?

'Wrong' isn't the issue, we're talking about if it's degrading to women.

And I 'babble'?
 
Padawanbater2

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Goddamn. We were discussing whether it's degrading to women.

It is.
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What is fundamentally wrong with that?

What's wrong with a woman degrading a man in a sexual context?

More importantly, why is any of that any of your business if each of them are consenting to it?


What is it? You're trying to say that somehow degrading women in a sexual context - even though many women get off to it - is somehow wrong. OK, so why is that wrong?

Why would it be wrong if I got off to being degraded by a woman who got off on degrading me?

Why do you feel any of this matters when it comes to Mark Blyth, the economy, or politics?
 
tangerinegreen555

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Padawanbater2 said:
What is fundamentally wrong with that?

What's wrong with a woman degrading a man in a sexual context?

More importantly, why is any of that any of your business if each of them are consenting to it?


What is it? You're trying to say that somehow degrading women in a sexual context - even though many women get off to it - is somehow wrong. OK, so why is that wrong?

Why would it be wrong if I got off to being degraded by a woman who got off on degrading me?

Why do you feel any of this matters when it comes to Mark Blyth, the economy, or politics?
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You're the one who keeps saying wrong.

I'm saying it's degrading.

If you had a daughter would you say you can be anything you want when you grow up. A porn star, a hooker, anything you want.
 
mr sunshine

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Padawanbater2 said:
No you didn't. That was babble. You didn't address anything I said.

You assumed I should care for some reason if my mother or sisters choose to engage in porn. Tell me why you think I should care?

Why would you care?
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What if your mom couldn't pay the rent and I gave her some money in exchange for fucking her throat till she threw up and cried, would you care?
 
ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
You are confused. I never called the Scientific American article click bait.

I'm pointing out that the cost of concentrated solar power in kw per hr is not competitive with photo voltaic or fossil fuels. The trend of reducing cost of CSV is not promising. You focus on efficiency, which is not important to the consumer also irrelevant to them. I'm not saying that CSV has no place in a sustainable system but it's not ready to even be a bit player.
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I replied to the wrong post.
 
ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
Not all porn degrades women (or men). Some porn does, sure, but I of course condemn exploitative porn or porn that's produced without consent of all parties involved. To say that all porn degrades women is absolutely false.

Of course I would be fine with that. Why wouldn't I?

What someone I care about chooses to do in their own personal life that's legal and between consenting adults I couldn't care less about. I don't even think about... Why should I? This is something I have no control over.
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It's officially time for you to stop letting them control the conversation.

They're hypocrites and they're intentionally wrecking a thread with this kind of off topic drivel.
 
Padawanbater2

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tangerinegreen555 said:
You're the one who keeps saying wrong.

I'm saying it's degrading.

If you had a daughter would you say you can be anything you want when you grow up. A porn star, a hooker, anything you want.
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What's the point that you're trying to make by saying that porn is degrading?

If I had a daughter, that's exactly what I would say. This is where you blame my reply on immaturity/ignorance instead of actually try to acknowledge or debate it on its own merits given actual thought

Yes I would. I don't believe there's anything wrong with being in porn.
 
thccbdhealth

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Padawanbater2 said:
What's the point that you're trying to make by saying that porn is degrading?

If I had a daughter, that's exactly what I would say. This is where you blame my reply on immaturity/ignorance instead of actually try to acknowledge or debate it on its own merits given actual thought

Yes I would. I don't believe there's anything wrong with being in porn.
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In Fact, Show me the Dotted Line...
 
Padawanbater2

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tangerinegreen555 said:
Well if you ever manage to get married and have a daughter, you'll be the goddamn father of the year.

Good for you. Tell your daughter being a porn star or prostitute is perfectly fine.

Guess she won't be needing the free college you advocate. More money in porn and hooking, right?
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It wouldn't be my job as a father to dictate what my adult daughter choos to do with her life

I don't believe there is anything fundamentally wrong with porn, so how could I tell her not to do it?

Apparently you can't address this issue without attacking me personally. What incentive do I have to even engage with these kinds of replies in the future? Why do you feel the need to attack someone automatically who happens to hold a differing view? Why can't you just say something like Hey I think porn is wrong because of x, y, and z. I think you're wrong because of a, b, c..

I just don't understand why you have to insist on pushing things to personal limits to intentionally try to piss people off then act like you're the victim when they respond accordingly.
 
tangerinegreen555

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Padawanbater2 said:
It wouldn't be my job as a father to dictate what my adult daughter choos to do with her life

I don't believe there is anything fundamentally wrong with porn, so how could I tell her not to do it?

Apparently you can't address this issue without attacking me personally. What incentive do I have to even engage with these kinds of replies in the future? Why do you feel the need to attack someone automatically who happens to hold a differing view? Why can't you just say something like Hey I think porn is wrong because of x, y, and z. I think you're wrong because of a, b, c..

I just don't understand why you have to insist on pushing things to personal limits to intentionally try to piss people off then act like you're the victim when they respond accordingly.
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TL;DR again.

Why don't you take a poll. Ask if porn is degrading to women. Ask your mom and sister. Maybe they can provide some insight for you.

Now post 8 paragraphs of deflection. Thanks.
 
ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
i have every right to point out that women getting their assholes duct taped open are not exactly "enjoying themselves"

but i would expect the deviant who wants to lock women in dog cages to disagree
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But you don't know that.

I only lock those women up who ask me nicely.

It's a Jeep thing; if I have to explain it, you'll never understand.

Witless child. Stop assuming you know the motives of others and grow up.
 
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