but Big Coal Union turned that 'no' into going back to bargaining table after Christmas break.
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Offmymeds
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I remember the union commercials. I wish people would look at the overall view, the big picture, when it comes to wealth inequality. They are so easily fooled into disarming themselve, even attacking themselves, voting against their own interests. All it takes is to pit them against those "others" that lack the high moral qualities of responsibility & work ethic, which is of course anyone wanting to join a union, anyone wanting strength in bargaining. Republicans have chipped away at every employee (& small biz for that matter) right they can find with great success.
Jobs are going unfilled for that reason. Employees are demanding more but a huge swath will still vote against their interests simply due to the "others".
these commercials shaped me as a child in the before, i post them so those in the after will know what it was like before Social Media and our SMART world.
this is what we cared about.
Truth, Justice and the American Way..where did it go?
printer
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Manchin floats modest Senate rules changes
Manchin, coming out of a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and other Democrats involved in the negotiations, didn't pledge to vote for any specific rules reforms but appeared open to smaller changes.
"I think the filibuster needs to stay in place, any way, shape or form that we can do it," Manchin said, asked about keeping the current rule that requires most legislation to get 60 votes to advance through the Senate.
Manchin added that he was still "optimistic" that Republicans could back smaller changes to the Senate rules with an eye toward making it easier to get bills onto the Senate floor for debate.
One idea Manchin said he would support would be getting rid of the 60-vote hurdle currently required to start debate on legislation. Manchin has raised potentially scrapping the procedural roadblock in talks he's had with GOP senators on the Senate's rules.
"That's a rule change I would think Republicans — they've been for that before," Manchin said, while noting that it wouldn't change the ability for Republicans to use the filibuster to block senators from ending debate on the bill and moving to final passage.
Manchin also said that he wanted to put "power back in the hands of committees." Senators have previously discussed streamlining the ability for bills that come out of Senate committees with significant support to be able to get an up or down vote on the Senate floor. Currently one senator can block a quick vote and force leadership to eat up days of floor time and overcome the 60-vote filibuster.
Manchin said that Democrats were also talking about the idea of a talking filibuster, where opponents could slow down a bill for as long as they could hold the floor, but there were questions about how under such a change "how do you get off of it."
Supporters of a talking filibuster want to structure it so that opponents can delay a bill for as long as they can hold the Senate floor. But after they are done talking senators would then be able to pass a bill with a simple majority, effectively nixing the current 60-vote threshold required for most bills to advance in the Senate.
But Manchin indicated that he still wants to keep a supermajority requirement to end debate, but that he was supportive of changing it from requiring 60 votes needed to break a filibuster to three-fifths of senators present and voting. Under that shift, senators could break a filibuster with fewer than 60 votes if there were absences.
"It puts pressure on both sides," Manchin said. "I'm for three fifths, voting. ... That to me makes a lot of sense."
thehill.com
Manchin, coming out of a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and other Democrats involved in the negotiations, didn't pledge to vote for any specific rules reforms but appeared open to smaller changes.
"I think the filibuster needs to stay in place, any way, shape or form that we can do it," Manchin said, asked about keeping the current rule that requires most legislation to get 60 votes to advance through the Senate.
Manchin added that he was still "optimistic" that Republicans could back smaller changes to the Senate rules with an eye toward making it easier to get bills onto the Senate floor for debate.
One idea Manchin said he would support would be getting rid of the 60-vote hurdle currently required to start debate on legislation. Manchin has raised potentially scrapping the procedural roadblock in talks he's had with GOP senators on the Senate's rules.
"That's a rule change I would think Republicans — they've been for that before," Manchin said, while noting that it wouldn't change the ability for Republicans to use the filibuster to block senators from ending debate on the bill and moving to final passage.
Manchin also said that he wanted to put "power back in the hands of committees." Senators have previously discussed streamlining the ability for bills that come out of Senate committees with significant support to be able to get an up or down vote on the Senate floor. Currently one senator can block a quick vote and force leadership to eat up days of floor time and overcome the 60-vote filibuster.
Manchin said that Democrats were also talking about the idea of a talking filibuster, where opponents could slow down a bill for as long as they could hold the floor, but there were questions about how under such a change "how do you get off of it."
Supporters of a talking filibuster want to structure it so that opponents can delay a bill for as long as they can hold the Senate floor. But after they are done talking senators would then be able to pass a bill with a simple majority, effectively nixing the current 60-vote threshold required for most bills to advance in the Senate.
But Manchin indicated that he still wants to keep a supermajority requirement to end debate, but that he was supportive of changing it from requiring 60 votes needed to break a filibuster to three-fifths of senators present and voting. Under that shift, senators could break a filibuster with fewer than 60 votes if there were absences.
"It puts pressure on both sides," Manchin said. "I'm for three fifths, voting. ... That to me makes a lot of sense."
Manchin floats modest Senate rules changes
Sen. Joe Manchin (W.Va.) on Tuesday night floated smaller changes to the Senate rules that would stop short of the filibuster reforms being pushed for by many of his Democratic colleagues.Manc…
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Bagginski
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He no-shit acts like one
Bagginski
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Supreme Court: Brown v Board of Education, Little Rock; 1956
SCOTUS ordered the desegregation of schools. US Army troops deployed to ensure the safety of black children attending school. Birth of the civil-rights movement. Birth of vast right-wing conspiracy to prevent the rise of the black population, leading directly to our present-day “conservative patriots” and 06 Jan, 2021.
it's hard to believe what has happened to politics since 1980 and tech 1995.
so many changes in such a small window of time- 40 years.
CatHedral
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how many jelly beans are in this jar, Welfare Queen?
if he could say Welfare Queen? THAT was what was in his mind? then this was the dog whistle that sat on his desk in plain sight.
CatHedral
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His dismantling mental health facilities in the richest state in the union was a louder warning. Republicans have stolen infrastructure money ever since.
smokinrav
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My mom and her then husband attended Reagan's second inauguration Then went to the dinner, got tons of things to bring home, including jelly beans, and other knick knacks. Mom still has all of it, even the dress she wore that night.
I was 18 in 1985 and just figuring out what a piece of shit Reagan was.
I was 18 in 1985 and just figuring out what a piece of shit Reagan was.