Making feminized seeds!!!

Hey, hatter here again, Im not taking credit for this post i just found it fucking around on the web lastnight, thought some of you guys would find it as insterting as i did.........
all information came directly from:
http://boards.cannabis.com/hydroponics/14488-making-feminized-seeds.html
by Zandor
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I got this from Soma a few years back it may help you,

Creating feminized seeds is an art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have use gibberellic acid, light stress, ph stress, and fertilizer stress to force my plants to make seeds. All these methods are harsh on the plants, and some like the gibbrellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds.

Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, other than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher PH, some like a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like a lot less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you can’t treat every plant the same way.

It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown strains for a decade and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.



I named this new method “Rodelization” after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plant in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male “bananas”. A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built in safety factor so in case of sever conditions, the plant can make sure that the species is furthered.

To me a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop or at least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emerging devices out. I call them “Emergency Devices” because they emerge at times of stress.

In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plant 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one to two months and still remain potent.

For the second phase you need to already have a crop that’s already 2 ½ weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bag of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut down all the fans in the grow room. Then take a very fine paint brush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with ten different kinds in the same room with great success.

I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time(two crops), but is completely organic and lets you have great quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If you’re one of those growers that has never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.

You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross pollinating. The older females with the bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, un-pollinated females when they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later you will have ripe 100% female seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.

As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from THSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: “Drop seeds not bombs”. Soma
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Peace
Zandor

If you go cheap you grow cheap. - Me

have fun with your hermies.

fdd2blk said:

have fun with your hermies.

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Hey fdd2blk, would you mind helping out a newbie who’s trying to learn something here?

I’m not trying to dispute your opinion, just trying to learn from you, cause I know you know what you’re talking about.

Here’s what I’ve read & what I thought was true about this subject, please correct me where I’m wrong.

If you take an otherwise healthy & normal female beyond her time of normal harvest, she is not in stress, only overly mature and totally ready to produce seed.

I thought that if she was not pollinated while in flower, she would naturally start to do what the plant normally does, which is to produce bananas in an effort to reproduce other females around her.

It is my understanding that her pollen is going to be female only pollen (as there is little or no male chromosome in her) because she was a normal & healthy female, and when pollinating another flower (with her male chromosome free pollen), should produce female only (99% fem) seeds, right?

Why do you say that her naturally occurring pollen will produce hermies, when female (turned male, post flower) pollen is what nature has provided as a natural reproductive tool?

I always thought that hermies were produced by lighting, chemical, environmental or some other form of stress on the female.

I also thought that it was well documented that this method would indeed produce female only seed.

So are you saying that this is not true and the female turned in to male pollen will create more hermies than the other more stressful methods of producing feminized seeds?

Again, not trying to dispute, just trying to learn as I was planning to grow an extra girl and use this method & harvest the pollen. S

y would pollinating with a male of the same strain w a femlae from a last batch make all female seeds? i think ur punnit square is off man. I mean there will be female seeds but male as well

someone please explain to me how to make hermy seeds.


Hermies make Hermies. you can't change genetics. you breed with hermy prone plants and you will get hemry prone plants.

NOT ALL females produce male flowers. no matter how old or stressed they get. these are what you want to use to breed with. then you need to add a chemical agent to induce male flowers, NOT stress.

hermies make hermies.

“NOT ALL females produce male flowers. no matter how old or stressed they get”

Ahhhh! So the female that produces bananas is not "doing what the plants naturally do", she is just a late exhibiting hermie and as such, her pollen will have a much higher likelihood of hermie offspring.

And using this “beyond flower” method is just propagating the late appearing hermie phenomenon.


Thanks much for the info, I’ll just keep getting reg seed and chopping the dudes. Thanks fdd! S

plants do NOT "naturally" pollinate themselves. usually males do it.

under EXTREMELY HARSH condition females may produce male flowers to save themselves. but, how could they save themselves if ALL of these flowers ended up being female again? it would be an endless female/hermie cycle, wouldn't it? the plant is trying to get a MALE population going again. it WANTS males. so breeding this way is pretty much counter productive.


people are RUINING good genetics believing they can breed this way. then they pass them on to their friends. it's gotta stop.



i would much rather kill a CONFIRMED male during veg or the first weeks of flowering, then have a garden full of ripening hermies.

amen fdd2blk

I edited my post above this one. S

With everyone else proclaiming this as a proven method, you are the first one who has explained to me in a way I can understand, why this is not a viable way to produce fem seed.

The simple argument that “female plants don’t naturally produce bananas if grown past flower, only late appearing hermies do” is the best explanation and argument against this method.

Now I understand and can see why you say NO NO NO!

It's just degrading good genetics and propagating the late hermie phenomenon into healthy stock.

Got it, thanks man, I learned a lot from this. S

This is an old thread but ran across it during a google search....

The process of Selfing plants does create 100% feminized seeds that are very useful when growing ONLY for bud mass. The problem lies if/when u try to create more offspring using that feminized plant. Only then will u experience Hermied seeds.

Please correct me if wrong but i do believe i red that i my good ol 'Bible'