Make no mistake: Medicare for All would cut taxes for most Americans

Rob Roy

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Obama identities as black. Calling him black is a sign of respect

calling him by a racial slur, then blaming someone who isn’t even there for it, is cowardly and racist

you stupid racist
Calling Obama the guy that drone murdered a 16 year old "American citizen" while violating his due process right would be accurate
even if he flashed his toothy smile and dazzled you with his "Peace Prize" horse shit. Trump's gonna lock him up. Lol.
 

UncleBuck

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Calling Obama the guy that drone murdered a 16 year old "American citizen" while violating his due process right would be accurate
even if he flashed his toothy smile and dazzled you with his "Peace Prize" horse shit. Trump's gonna lock him up. Lol.
Trump? You mean the white guy who is droning far more people yet for some reason you’ve never criticized him once for it?

even your attempt to change the goalposts reveals what a racist you are
 

schuylaar

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To start a business you simply register with the secretary of state

as always, you only prove your incompetence by speaking
actually, that's for the state side..you still have to register federally, Buck.

so then what did you pay $50 for? the website?
 

schuylaar

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Obama identities as black. Calling him black is a sign of respect

calling him by a racial slur, then blaming someone who isn’t even there for it, is cowardly and racist

you stupid racist
Bucky you're using words against TOS and it's making me cry..please stop!
 

Fogdog

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Well, you should care, and that's part of your problem. Your mother deserves the same healthcare services as that lunatic, and so does every single American.

You obviously believe that a person's wealth, education and privilege determines a person's value. You constantly look down on people because of these criteria, and that makes you a hypocrite and a phoney. That's a fact I fully grasp.
LOL

Yeah, I should be a billionaire. Thanks for the advice. I'll apologize to Mom.

It's too bad you don't like that I treat you as an ignoramus. You made your ignorance clear when you bragged about how you don't read anything. This Is why you opinions are worthless and you are an ignoramus. Fact.
 

PJ Diaz

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Do you have some specialized knowledge of the insurance industry? Because I call bullshit on 'their making billions off our health'.

I would point out that they collect a small monthly payment from people and by pooling those resources they are able to pay huge amounts to the (relatively) few people that need the care. By using that money they are able to invest intelligently and earn a profit off the excess until it is needed, which is how most money is made by financial institutions.

You mean that America was not able to wipe out all the indigenous brown people of this continent and they have the audacity to walk across the imaginary line that Trump has deemed illegal for them to do? And they still pay taxes.

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You assumed race mattered when @Budley Doright said immigrants. Color didn't come into it until you mentioned it.
1. No I don't have specialized knowledge of the insurance industry, but I am able to use the internet to find the info I need. Here's an article to support my assertion for your reference: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/05/top-health-insurers-profit-surge-29-percent-to-6-billion-dollars.html

2. Race does matter when it comes to immigrants. Only 4% of immigrants are white. To turn a blind eye to that fact only serves to make you color blind.
 

UncleBuck

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PJ Diaz

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Fear and refusal are the main reason low income earners can not negotiate for higher wages. That is why the country as a whole should. What the fuck does being a union negotiator have to anything to do with this conversation? Your talking a group of people sitting at a table not individuals. Being in a union must be clouding your perception of the real world. Worker: “I would like a raise please”, supervisor: “Um nope”. Worker: “Well then I’ll leave”, supervisor: “ok” ......... That worked out well lol.
I worked as an individual for close to 20 years before ever joining a union. I'd already had at least 5 legitimate job references to put on my resume by the time I was 18. I never had the problem you are describing. When I asked for raises I usually got them. When I didn't get them, I perused other employers. I have always set a standard for myself, and worked hard to keep that standard. Seems to have worked out ok for me.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Well, you should care, and that's part of your problem. Your mother deserves the same healthcare services as that lunatic, and so does every single American.

You obviously believe that a person's wealth, education and privilege determines a person's value. You constantly look down on people because of these criteria, and that makes you a hypocrite and a phoney. That's a fact I fully grasp.
I think that was going a bit off the deep end Burt, Foggy is an ideologue and his motives are not based on his evaluation of other's worthiness for healthcare. He simply believes that the method of delivery of these services and how they are paid for is different than that which we believe. He grew up in America and absorbed the ideas in his culture, just like we did in Canada. Calling someone who differs from you in relatively small ways names does not win friends an influence people! I reserve name calling for those who actively defend and promote the hatred and suffering in other people based on bullshit. The trolls, bigots antisocial personalities and revenge psycho socks are on the receiving end, if I made a mistake I make amends, like with you. It's different than fighting a war against let's say Germany during the second world war, there the innocent were caught up with the guilty until the war ended. I'm Canadian and so are you, this is largely an American issue, we have it covered already.
 
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BurtMaklin

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LOL

Yeah, I should be a billionaire. Thanks for the advice. I'll apologize to Mom.

It's too bad you don't like that I treat you as an ignoramus. You made your ignorance clear when you bragged about how you don't read anything. This Is why you opinions are worthless and you are an ignoramus. Fact.
Nah, I don't care how you treat me. I just like pointing out that you're a hypocrite and a phoney, because not only is it true, it amuses me.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Smoking a joint watching animals throw shit at each other.
Some context for you, if your gonna make judgments about the human animals, include yourself, I do. Here is my current reading, check it out if ya like to watch the animals, it can give you a good grounding in what is normal and why.
 

hanimmal

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1. No I don't have specialized knowledge of the insurance industry, but I am able to use the internet to find the info I need. Here's an article to support my assertion for your reference: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/05/top-health-insurers-profit-surge-29-percent-to-6-billion-dollars.html
That just talks about the profits of the top health insurers, but the majority of their income comes from their investments into the economy. The money they make is not off of taking insurance payments that much money over how much they pay hospitals.
2. Race does matter when it comes to immigrants. Only 4% of immigrants are white. To turn a blind eye to that fact only serves to make you color blind.
It is ok to not have to win a conversation that race got brought up 'accidentally' and everyone got triggered.

Um, excuse me. I'm not a racist. In fact I'm an anti-racist.
As long as you are not later going to argue that government programs aimed to helping minorities get to a level playing field, I can buy that.

Because a lot of people have a hard time understanding that Non White Males have been subject to laws by the government to not be able to take advantage of our countries post ww2 economic growth until very recently. And ever since they have been quick to act like they are somehow being hurt by everyone's ability to achieve the same goals.
 

Lucky Luke

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I worked as an individual for close to 20 years before ever joining a union. I'd already had at least 5 legitimate job references to put on my resume by the time I was 18. I never had the problem you are describing. When I asked for raises I usually got them. When I didn't get them, I perused other employers. I have always set a standard for myself, and worked hard to keep that standard. Seems to have worked out ok for me.
I have to admit i dont think i have ever been turned down for a raise when ive asked. Mind you i used to go straight to the owner and present my case, not the idiot's above me, who usually earned less. I now just work for myself.

Unions have power, not as much as they used to but power non the less. Its because of them that we have a 40 hr week, higher rates of pay for weekend and night work, employer paid supperannuation and 4 weeks paid holidays a year, sick pay, maternity leave, workplace health and safety- the list is long. Everyone should join their union. Its us vs them and a united front helps.
 

Fogdog

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Nah, I don't care how you treat me. I just like pointing out that you're a hypocrite and a phoney, because not only is it true, it amuses me.
Anybody who doesn't expect to receive the same level of healthcare of a billionaire is a hypocrite.

Got it.

Thanks Burt.:lol:
 

Budley Doright

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1. No I don't have specialized knowledge of the insurance industry, but I am able to use the internet to find the info I need. Here's an article to support my assertion for your reference: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/05/top-health-insurers-profit-surge-29-percent-to-6-billion-dollars.html

2. Race does matter when it comes to immigrants. Only 4% of immigrants are white. To turn a blind eye to that fact only serves to make you color blind.
Why should you even care about an immigrants colour? Does it worry/bother you that only 4% are white? I would like to hear why you think the numbers are so skewed towards a person of colour?
I worked as an individual for close to 20 years before ever joining a union. I'd already had at least 5 legitimate job references to put on my resume by the time I was 18. I never had the problem you are describing. When I asked for raises I usually got them. When I didn't get them, I perused other employers. I have always set a standard for myself, and worked hard to keep that standard. Seems to have worked out ok for me.
Times have changed. I also had no issues with securing good jobs. Those days are over. I would like to see everyone make a living wage and that option is not available to a lot of people. Without collective bargaining and power in numbers the low skilled workers are taken advantage of........ surely you see that correct?
 
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