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see4 · Dec 2, 2016

ThickStemz said:
Yes... Your opinion here is to coerce people. Not just me. Not me at all really. As a man i don't really care if the guy in the urinal next to me is a lady-boy or if its some chick using a "go girl" so she can pee standing up making her feel like the man she always wanted to be.

But a modest female shouldn't be forced to have people with penises freely galvanting around the ladies room. The locker room at the gym. A tsa agent patting a female passenger down because he identifies as a girl?

Are we going to have to train gynecologists to treat erectile dysfunction and prostate cancer too?

Justin-case said:
Never donate your brain for science, no good could ever come from it.

see4 · Dec 2, 2016

Padawanbater2 said:
Now you have president Trump

*Now WE have president Trump.

Stop being divisive.

UncleBuck · Dec 2, 2016

see4 said:
*Now WE have president Trump.

Stop being divisive.

if only we had elected a socialist jew. can't go wrong running a socialist jew, right?

see4 · Dec 2, 2016

Padawanbater2 said:
I agree, but that's not what lost Clinton the election. She lost because her message based in identity politics didn't appeal to the working class voters she needed to court to win. The Democratic party has abandoned the middle-class. So, naturally, middle-class people who favor civil rights have nowhere to go in a two party system. Most of them were forced to vote for Trump because, even with all the racist, hateful and xenophobic rhetoric spewed by the Trump campaign, Clinton didn't offer them anything better. It's such an embarrassing upset it will go down in the history books to tell potential politicians what not to do! She could have walked into the White House if she played her cards right, but she didn't and was outsmarted by a moron.

She lost because of EC gerrymandering. She has more than 2.5 million more votes. She 'appealed' to more Americans than Donald Trump, and by a wider margin than any president in history, ever, across the entire known universe.

see4 · Dec 2, 2016

UncleBuck said:
if only we had elected a socialist jew. can't go wrong running a socialist jew, right?

I wouldn't vote for Bernie. He is on the same spectrum swing as Trump, just in the opposite direction.

If it were Trump v Bernie, I'd vote Bernie all day every day without hesitation.
If it were Trump v Hillary, I'd vote Hillary all day every day without hesitation.
If it were Hillary v Bernie, I'd vote Hillary. She had/s plans. The other candidates don't. They had/ve ideas.

If it were Trump v Putin, I'd have to sleep on it. It's a toss up.

If it were Trump v Palin, I'd vote Palin. I'd want to see them titties!

Padawanbater2 · Dec 2, 2016

UncleBuck said:
ah, so only whites are "working class", and not the 94% of black women or 90% of black men or 70% of hispanics or 85% of asians who voted for her.

totally not racist as fuck.

you and bernie are such retards.

She lost the 'white working-class' vote demographic in PE, OH, MI & WI. Of course non whites are working-class, though that statistic is irrelevant in identifying what lost Clinton the general election

UncleBuck said:
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a rebirth, eh?

so when did they die?

this is why bernie lost the nomination by nearly 4 million votes. no appeal to minorities whatsoever.

No, Sanders lost the democratic nomination because he had an entire media establishment coupled with a democratic organization that was supposed to remain neutral in their selection for the democratic nominee against him from the beginning. He won 47% of the vote despite that. If the election was ran fairly, he would have undoubtedly smashed Clinton during the primaries and went on to defeat Trump in the general election.

Padawanbater2 · Dec 2, 2016

see4 said:
She lost because of EC gerrymandering.

Would you support a Trump presidency had he won the popular vote and lost the EC to Clinton?

UncleBuck · Dec 2, 2016

see4 said:
She lost because of EC gerrymandering. She has more than 2.5 million more votes. She 'appealed' to more Americans than Donald Trump, and by a wider margin than any president in history, ever, across the entire known universe.

here's a map where hillary won it. see if you can spot the difference:

Padawanbater2 · Dec 2, 2016

see4 said:
If it were Hillary v Bernie, I'd vote Hillary. She had/s plans. The other candidates don't. They had/ve ideas.

This just tells me you don't understand how American politics actually works in the same way UB and Londonfog don't

see4 · Dec 2, 2016

Padawanbater2 said:
Would you support a Trump presidency had he won the popular vote and lost the EC to Clinton?

I'd be ok with it and not discuss what needs to change to be a more effective voting process. Not because of Donald Trump but rather because the process by which he was elected was fair and impartial.

Nice attempt at a pointed question though.

UncleBuck · Dec 2, 2016

Padawanbater2 said:
No, Sanders lost the democratic nomination because he had an entire media establishment coupled with a democratic organization that was supposed to remain neutral in their selection for the democratic nominee against him from the beginning. He won 47% of the vote despite that. If the election was ran fairly, he would have undoubtedly smashed Clinton during the primaries and went on to defeat Trump in the general election.

did you just happen to forget that the democratic base IS minorities, and that sanders had no appeal to them whatsoever, hence why he lost?

the media coverage was not unfair to him. it was more critical of clinton. studies prove this.

why not defend what bernard just tweeted? he says we can't allow a "rebirth" of racism, implying it has died. maybe that's part of the reason why every POC in my twitter feed hates that man's guts?

see4 · Dec 2, 2016

Padawanbater2 said:
This just tells me you don't understand how American politics actually works in the same way UB and Londonfog don't

You'll need to explain. Because you've not actually said anything here, its a completely baseless accusation.

Padawanbater2 · Dec 2, 2016

UncleBuck said:
here's a map where hillary won it. see if you can spot the difference:

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UncleBuck · Dec 2, 2016

Padawanbater2 said:

i don't get what you are trying to say here. i'm aware of how counties voted, i've been going through them one by one.

see4 · Dec 2, 2016

UncleBuck said:
here's a map where hillary won it. see if you can spot the difference:

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Last time I checked, 68 Million was greater than 66 Million.

Padawanbater2 · Dec 2, 2016

UncleBuck said:
did you just happen to forget that the democratic base IS minorities, and that sanders had no appeal to them whatsoever, hence why he lost?

Sanders did have appeal with minorities, especially as the primaries went forward. You saw the poll posted on the other thread, would you like me to post it here?

UncleBuck said:
the media coverage was not unfair to him.

Yes it was

UncleBuck said:
it was more critical of clinton. studies prove this.

"No press is still good press", which is part of the reason Trump won. Some $2 billion in free advertisement went to Trump during this campaign because of the outlandish things he said and the nature of our 'infotainment' news media. All of the 'negative' press Clinton received likely helped her during the primary. Couple that with the DNCs admission they were actively helping the Clinton campaign, it's not tough to see how media collusion rigged the primary in favor of Clinton. It certainly takes a gigantic leap of faith to believe otherwise.

UncleBuck said:
why not defend what bernard just tweeted?

Because there is no need to

londonfog · Dec 2, 2016

UncleBuck said:
did you just happen to forget that the democratic base IS minorities, and that sanders had no appeal to them whatsoever, hence why he lost?

the media coverage was not unfair to him. it was more critical of clinton. studies prove this.

why not defend what bernard just tweeted? he says we can't allow a "rebirth" of racism, implying it has died. maybe that's part of the reason why every POC in my twitter feed hates that man's guts?

When did it die? Racism built this damn nation and is very alive and well today.

UncleBuck · Dec 2, 2016

Padawanbater2 said:
Sanders did have appeal with minorities

LOL

londonfog · Dec 2, 2016

Padawanbater2 said:
Sanders did have appeal with minorities, especially as the primaries went forward. You saw the poll posted on the other thread, would you like me to post it here?

when

UncleBuck · Dec 2, 2016

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