6.0 pH for a soil medium is at the very low end. If it is truly soil you're using, push that up to 6.5-6.7. Both Ca and Mg can be locked out in soil below 6.5, which could be the reason you're seeing nutrient burn while also seeing certain deficiencies.
Magnesium deficiency? Maybe?
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Petziecola
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Makes sense. Thank you.
Merkn4aSquirtn
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I don't see how people run 24/0. One of my plants seem to droop the last few hours.. gets 6 hours dark and perk right back up around lights on. I'd feel like I'd be doing more harm leaving the light on longer. Maybe my plants get hit with max light within that 18 hours.. idk. I'd try 24 if i could
I've run 24/0 in my veg tents since I started growing indoors eight years ago. To boot, I frequently am running multiple veg tents simultaneously.
400W MH (or in rare cases HPS) in all of them.
Merkn4aSquirtn
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I don't understand why people think moving your lights or changing light schedules stress the plant.. the sun doesn't shine the same every day.. the plant isn't subjected to the same light patterns by any means.. sometimes its cloudy and sometimes its not. Honestly keeping the same exact distance and keeping the same light schedule isn't replicating nature at all. Adjust how you want. Experiment a little. Definitely run more than 12 hours with a auto
Petziecola
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Thank you. This is a learning experience, hence my questions. I appreciate the input.
doug mirabelli
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So insightful... Maybe they’d do better with a little rest but I’ve seen plenty of success at 24/0 so I’m ok with giving that advice
Bernie420
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Sorry autoflowers aside there is a host of other things that determine max yield.
Wattzzup
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I think all living things like rest. So I assume my plant does as well. I agree with above the plant gets to know the light cycle and will droop an hour before it goes off and perk up about an hour before it comes back on.
It appears you are on the up-and-up on the science behind this, given your claim that "the plant does a lot during the rest cycle".
I request the data that you've compiled yourself, or at least from the scientific studies that you're poured over that dictates the accuracy of your claim.
I'm not being facetious or sarcastic... please provide citings to your sources that accurately prove this.
doug mirabelli
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I won’t argue that. I was speaking specifically about light cycles for autos though I didn’t want to list all of the factors that I think maximizes yield. And maybe i shouldn’t say that it’s what “the consensus is” bc idk if that’s true. Ive read a lot and it seems like that was the majority of the info says. I’m sure it makes little difference to do 20/4 or 18/6
JimmiP
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I would spray them every 2 -3 days, using plain water every third spray if you are worried about any sort of mineral build up. And inspite of what someone else said, some plants are just magnesium hogs. The epsom will more than likely help and at that dose will not hurt anything. Even with the cal-mag supplement. They were on the same page as me about the fox farms OF. Your plant probably hasn't eaten all of the built in nutrients yet... I would not add anything else except maybe a couple tsp of big bloom every now and then. And if you decide to use tiger bloom,,, go light with it. I really don't care for that one. But anyway, as the saying goes, its your plant. In the end the actions you take are up to you. Good luck friend!
Bernie420
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I'll do this after I get up. I'm tired and want to go to bed now. I need my rest after a busy day of photosynthesizing.
Petziecola
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Thank you for your input! Much appreciated!
Petziecola
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Humidity is at 60
Budzbuddha
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1. Autos run on 24/0 , 20/4 , 18/6.
12/12 kneecaps autos since they have an already
Short veg stage. Autos love long light cycles - it
pushes the veg / rooting because of its short stage
.
2. FFOF CAN AND WILL run an auto completely
thru its entire grow . Without ANY nutes.
FFOF ph comes out of bag at 6.3 , all a grower
needs is ranging water 6.5 to 6.7 ( to allow for
minor drift ). You can use tap water. Nothing
special.
3. FFOF is highly ammended/ charged right out the
gate. Autos need about 90 days of life as an
average- therefore “ adding “ this and that
complicates such an easy plant to grow.
4. FFOF can be made better with a slight mod.
More perlite / EWC ( 10% per container)
volume / kelp meal .
5. FFOF is always overthought/ overfed.
6. Hyperloading this soil ALWAYS unbalances it.
Excess in one area , make other elements
become deficient.
7. Plant autos in its final container , many say no but if you just give a good base , no stress and keep from fucking with them they will produce.
Small containers can often cause the auto to shoot to flower if it senses constriction while trying to root.
GL
12/12 kneecaps autos since they have an already
Short veg stage. Autos love long light cycles - it
pushes the veg / rooting because of its short stage
.
2. FFOF CAN AND WILL run an auto completely
thru its entire grow . Without ANY nutes.
FFOF ph comes out of bag at 6.3 , all a grower
needs is ranging water 6.5 to 6.7 ( to allow for
minor drift ). You can use tap water. Nothing
special.
3. FFOF is highly ammended/ charged right out the
gate. Autos need about 90 days of life as an
average- therefore “ adding “ this and that
complicates such an easy plant to grow.
4. FFOF can be made better with a slight mod.
More perlite / EWC ( 10% per container)
volume / kelp meal .
5. FFOF is always overthought/ overfed.
6. Hyperloading this soil ALWAYS unbalances it.
Excess in one area , make other elements
become deficient.
7. Plant autos in its final container , many say no but if you just give a good base , no stress and keep from fucking with them they will produce.
Small containers can often cause the auto to shoot to flower if it senses constriction while trying to root.
GL
Petziecola
Member
This is very helpful info. Thanks so much.