lucas formula!!! ha, what a joke....

bdt1981

bdt1981

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Ok like I figured when deciding to give the LF a try. It blows. Who better to tell you how to use something than the manfgr. Follow directions maybe a hair under. Was using future harvest development hollands secret 3 part then I read about LF. Used cutting edge nutes and across the board LF lacked what the 3 part hollands secret delivered. Never saw a leaf that wasn't green til LF. No more for me. It makes sence to.
 
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ilikecheetoes

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Ok, like (sic) lucas worked fine for me and 1000's of others for years. I don't use it anymore but it doesn't suck. judging by your spelling,grammar and sentence structure maybe you are a tard? maybe your plants like something different?
anyway thanks for the interesting topic. brought a lot to the table.
 
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ricky6991

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I just got on to lucas this year... works mint. All my leafs are excellent and green. I do use cal-mag at 5 ml per gallon until few weeks into flower.

never had one single problem.
 
firsttimeARE

firsttimeARE

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I had yellow leaves with LF. But I was a noob when I was using it and was also using too much. And for some reason I read just micro/bloom and never used the grow, but was later told I was wrong?

Not sure. I switched to 1 part Ionic and couldn't of been happier. Using Dynagro currently and have had less than stellar results. And with the 3-1-2 I was using in veg left the plant needing K and Ca and Mg which was dropping my PH like crazy as the plant was eating up all the cations as soon as it got them.

Others love DG. I would like to use it again now that i'm learning more about the chemistry behind it.
 
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oat0328

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ilikecheetoes said:
Ok, like (sic) lucas worked fine for me and 1000's of others for years. I don't use it anymore but it doesn't suck. judging by your spelling,grammar and sentence structure maybe you are a tard? maybe your plants like something different?
anyway thanks for the interesting topic. brought a lot to the table.
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Lol this is funny :lol:
 
bdt1981

bdt1981

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Ya that would be the polite way to put it. I like to grow different strains on the same table cuz I just love to try em all. Hollamds secret never had deficient plants following the 12 week schedule and just going with the label. Which I like. And to me it don't make sense that using 2 of a 3 part nute could perform better than the way it was designed to be used. Get you by if your short on nutes but can't hold a candle to the way it was made to be used. IMHO
 
bdt1981

bdt1981

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A round of applaud please. I can't spel ar jrow at all. Sucks that millions of people would take 3 over the 2 every day
 
Commander Strax

Commander Strax

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bdt1981 do you read what you are typing? I understand that it makes sense to you, but it is very hard to understand what you are saying. I am sorry to say it is not just your spelling, the words don't make sense.
 
bdt1981

bdt1981

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Simple. Use something the way it is designed to be used, manufactured to be used and supposed to be used then take one of the only 3 parts, which is 33% of the complete ptoduct out and use it. It in no way can compare. Not only my briallant mind came up with that but I have expirenced them both. And an yone who says they used to much of LF is wrong cuz LF is 8/16 with over 400 watts. If u don't use those ratios your not using the Lucas formula at all.
 
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churchhaze

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Lucas formula users miss out on the ability to vary the K:Ca ratio.

Just look at the NPK ratios on the 3 bottles. The "grow" bottle has more K than N, while the "micro" bottle has lots of Ca and N. It doesn't make sense that people think of "Grow" as a nitrogen bottle. "Micro" is clearly the calcium nitrate bottle.

Because LF users get most of their K from the "bloom" bottle, their level of K is tied to the amount of phosphate they use.

In the long run, you won't save money buying only 2 bottles if you actually use them.
 
hexthat

hexthat

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2nd chart should give you a hint as to why it didn't work for you

I use pH of 5.4 and let it rise to 6.2-6.3 then I do reservoir change. If you run at 5.7-5.9 you will need to supplement K.
 
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churchhaze

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Supplementing K alone will raise the pH anyway. If you increase K without changing anything else, the pH will be higher.

hexthat said:
2nd chart should give you a hint as to why it didn't work for you

I use pH of 5.4 and let it rise to 6.2-6.3 then I do reservoir change. If you run at 5.7-5.9 you will need to supplement K.
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bdt1981

bdt1981

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Fuck no you will not save a dime. I used it cuz was out of grow I gave it a fair chance and clearly it was not as goodbye
 
bdt1981

bdt1981

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hexthat said:



2nd chart should give you a hint as to why it didn't work for you

I use pH of 5.4 and let it rise to 6.2-6.3 then I do reservoir change. If you run at 5.7-5.9 you will need to supplement K.
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Hell ya that makes perfect sense. Thx
 
bdt1981

bdt1981

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When I do the 8/16 ratio with 5ml cal mag the ph consistently was 5.0-5.2. I would always add ph up to get 5.8. Veg always ends up low by the next res change flower stayed good. Any ideas on why my ph would go down in veg
 
BustinScales510

BustinScales510

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I use Cutting Edge as well, youre not supposed to use grow during flower according to their feed chart..I never have. I always use Micro, Bloom, Plant Amp and Uncle Johns Mix (the last 2 are calcium and potassium-"K"). Those 4 things are like their core line and have always given me great results.
 
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