Lowryder 2 hybrids

dirtyal1223

Smoky McPot
Be carefeul buying that many seeds. Customs doesnt care about the small purchases but they will be all over you if you are buying 200 seeds.
 

papajock

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I have no input other than I have always loved the idea of creating a new smoke. Whatever your final decision, I wish you luck.
 

chrish

Active Member
Lowrider & Ice for deff , that would be a killer strain. Do you just let the lowrider have a go with the pollen from what ever you choose then wate for the seeds or is there a bit more to it ?
 

nongreenthumb

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There will be a bit more to it, because overall you want to keep the traits of the lowryder and have the offspring consitant, you wouldn't want 6 to hae the autoflowering trait and 4 to not out of 10 seeds, so it is going to have to be a little more controlled and careful breeding and back crossing.
 

chrish

Active Member
Whats back crossing ? the reason why i ask is that i have a male power plant ready to go in the bin and i have three female low rider #1 what are 5 weeks old.
 

scias

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back crossing is taking a new generation and crossing it with a well established 1st gen grow. often times it takes several tries to get 100% of a certain quality you're looking for. combine that with several qualities and several gens and you've got a project on your hands. you can cross the PP with the female LR, but keep in mind your seed produced wont all be autflowering. youll have to take male and female from the offspring and cross them, cross it with the pp again, cross those again.... so forth and so on. it's definitely WORK. if more people are interested, i can get into greater detail
 

kindprincess

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back crossing is taking a new generation and crossing it with a well established 1st gen grow. often times it takes several tries to get 100% of a certain quality you're looking for. combine that with several qualities and several gens and you've got a project on your hands. you can cross the PP with the female LR, but keep in mind your seed produced wont all be autflowering. youll have to take male and female from the offspring and cross them, cross it with the pp again, cross those again.... so forth and so on. it's definitely WORK. if more people are interested, i can get into greater detail
actually, there should be more of a chance that all of them inherit the traits you want in f1 crosses of two stable strains, as the cross will carry half of the genes from each parent; a 50-50. it's the f2's where things start to vary and get freaky.... :mrgreen:
 

scias

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yeah... i may have different breeding methods that work for me... but like i said, ill be happy to get into details of what i do.
 

kindprincess

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yeah... i may have different breeding methods that work for me... but like i said, ill be happy to get into details of what i do.
gregor mendel is lovingly referred to as the grandfather of genetics. he ultimately discovered genetics, and how they work, and was one of the first out there to notarize grows of bean plants which he worked with for generations selectively breeding.

if you look for him, you'll find the simplest breakdown of what genetics are, and how selective breeding and crossing works. f1, f2, f3, f4.

check it out ;)
 

scias

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his middle name was yohann... thats why i said "talkin bout yohann!" :D im familiar with him, and use his basic principles, as im sure every breeder does. however, when getting into specific qualities that im looking for, i do a lot more work than what i see from mendel. however, i may have bad technique and perhaps something is easier for desired results... i really need to ask mike mandala what he does because out of all the breeders ive used, his seeds were definitely the best.
 

kindprincess

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his middle name was yohann... thats why i said "talkin bout yohann!" :D im familiar with him, and use his basic principles, as im sure every breeder does. however, when getting into specific qualities that im looking for, i do a lot more work than what i see from mendel. however, i may have bad technique and perhaps something is easier for desired results... i really need to ask mike mandala what he does because out of all the breeders ive used, his seeds were definitely the best.
you threw me; too stoned to put yohann and johann together... :p

i'm not seeing what you mean; the best? o.0

i think there's some ruderalis work being done at icmag, i'm going to go see if i can find it; i don't mess with autoflowers, and i know next to nothing practical about them. only that they aren't for me. i would imagine the autoflower trait is a recessive one... which means you wouldn't have autoflowering offspring until f2 generation....

this is going to be cool, i hope you stay on the ball! i love long term threads :)
 

scias

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i always finish what i started. mandala doesnt work with autoflower, but they have some techniques they use to get extemely viable healthy growing plants. i figure i could incorporate a thing or two from them in my autoflowering adventures to come up with an even better autoflower cross... from what i understand, the autoflower is not exactly recessive. it comes out better with male progeny, but is possible to stabilize with female progeny through 3rd gen breeding. im doing as much research on this as possible, there just arent enough sites documenting grows... thats why im doing this in bulk, so i can not only document everything, but try many variations as well :D
 

kindprincess

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i always finish what i started. mandala doesnt work with autoflower, but they have some techniques they use to get extemely viable healthy growing plants. i figure i could incorporate a thing or two from them in my autoflowering adventures to come up with an even better autoflower cross... from what i understand, the autoflower is not exactly recessive. it comes out better with male progeny, but is possible to stabilize with female progeny through 3rd gen breeding. im doing as much research on this as possible, there just arent enough sites documenting grows... thats why im doing this in bulk, so i can not only document everything, but try many variations as well :D
hm... idk, it seems to me that using a healthy vigorous male and a choice female is going to produce very good viable seeds....

ask fdd, that man has got it down! :p
 
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