Lots of us are kinda ignorant.

gcubebuddy

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PadawanWarrior said:
Crazy man. I know the area. That's where everyone's apples come from. I know there's some serious racism there from some of the locals. They want the Mexican's there, but they don't, lol. It's crazy. At least you're buddy had a decent car that could get away from the rednecks.
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ya we were both thankful to come out alive.
 
Kassiopeija

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Wattzzup said:
I get it but I disagree with it. You have to make an example out of this fool who abused his powers. To prevent others from trying the same thing again and again and again and again well you get it.

My point about Floyd not getting a trial is that cop didn’t follow the procedure. He didn’t let Floyd go to trial for his crimes. So why do we have to? To be the better person? Squash him like a bug with no trial. We all saw it. We all saw people tell him he was dying. He did it anyway in front of a crowd to show who is boss. Now we publicly hang him and leave him till he rots through the noose.
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Actually Im feeling like you. Especially because I got beaten up by (most likey right-winged) cops, too - when I was 15, at the police station just in underpants...

But as I civilized person I reckon that there's The Law - and that is binding for all of us. You expressed it this, too... if just everybody incl. the police - would stick to that, that tragic incident wouldnt have hadnt happened in the first place... (the target ideal situation to strive for...)

The Rightful or Just People cannot take the rights into their own hands... then they would be no more just....
because, if so... then the Right-wing (or else...) could "cry foul" and use this hitherto make their point....

then the Spiral of Violence will never end! just like in Israel vs Palestine - its back/forth/back/forth eternally... and the only thing coming out of it is the loss of human lives.

I think Norway or Switzerland are showing a noble Western attitude in world politics for quite some time.
 
UncleBuck

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PadawanWarrior said:
You better stop talking shit to Rob or you're gonna be the next jackass saying Bigfoot tried to rape him. He's already been raping you with words, so just bend over and take it already. Just brush the hairs off yourself after. I'm sure you'd love it.
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This is the second time you’ve fantasized about raping me
 
injinji

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666underbite666 said:
Hmm I black but my opinion is no better than anyone else's because it's my opinion...if you can burn an American flag and not have a problem with that than you can fly whatever flag you want but that's just my opinion
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I heard a black comic on NPR saying he grew to love the Rebel flag when he was on the road in the south. It showed him which stores/people to avoid. Kind of like a warning system.
 
Fogdog

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injinji said:
I heard a black comic on NPR saying he grew to love the Rebel flag when he was on the road in the south. It showed him which stores/people to avoid. Kind of like a warning system.
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So, a Confederate flag is like a "Nixxxrs and dogs not allowed" sign. Yeah, that's great.
 
Wattzzup

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Kassiopeija said:
Actually Im feeling like you. Especially because I got beaten up by (most likey right-winged) cops, too - when I was 15, at the police station just in underpants...

But as I civilized person I reckon that there's The Law - and that is binding for all of us. You expressed it this, too... if just everybody incl. the police - would stick to that, that tragic incident wouldnt have hadnt happened in the first place... (the target ideal situation to strive for...)

The Rightful or Just People cannot take the rights into their own hands... then they would be no more just....
because, if so... then the Right-wing (or else...) could "cry foul" and use this hitherto make their point....

then the Spiral of Violence will never end! just like in Israel vs Palestine - its back/forth/back/forth eternally... and the only thing coming out of it is the loss of human lives.

I think Norway or Switzerland are showing a noble Western attitude in world politics for quite some time.
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I don’t look to do the right thing to people who walk around living their entire lives doing the wrong things. Sorry I’m not the “better person” that you speak of. I hear about that guy a lot.... I’ve just personally never met him.
 
Fonzyyy21

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PadawanWarrior said:
Ya, this was in Northern WA though. About an hour from the Canadian border. It wasn't Southern at all there. I think they just thought it was a cool name. I don't know. The black guys that went to my school probably didn't think it was such a cool name though. I just never thought of it like that when I was going to school there is what I'm saying. It wasn't until after I got out high school I realized how messed up that was. Just saying a lot of us don't realize there's still racism going on.
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Yesss sir, it's literally systemic put into the system to unknowingly undermine people!!! I had the same realization a couple of years ago! It's pretty wild actually!
 
Fogdog

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666underbite666 said:
Hey Randy who passes laws in America.... if Trump said he had a pen and a phone he would be impeached again and btw Clinton wasn't impeached for sex he was impeached for lying lol
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read up on the defense that Senate Republicans used for Trump during the impeachment trials. They don't care about the law. They said Trump can do whatever he wants.
 
Kassiopeija

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Wattzzup said:
I don’t look to do the right thing to people who walk around living their entire lives doing the wrong things. Sorry I’m not the “better person” that you speak of. I hear about that guy a lot.... I’ve just personally never met him.
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Because he is an ideal. It's like a picture in your mind - it can be deceived or distorted by negative emotions rather quickly. Bad experience with other humans most likely is going to cause this. It's sort of very hard, and maybe not even natural, to completely strive for this, but then we simply mustn't allow ourselves to become the very evil that we dread.

PadawanWarrior said:
I've always been a punk. I grew up on DK and the Vandals.
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I've been a "MetalPunk" 30 years ago. Actually more a Heavy Metal guy, but the other Metalheads from town where still too young and had to be at home before midnight. So I always ventured out together with the Punks - because they didn't care much about what their parents told them LOL. Over time I also liked some of their music, esp. the CrustPunk or extreme Anarcho-Punk from the DDR ("Schleim-Keim" <-- check these out, top notch).

Funny thing is, because of Metal outfit I occasionally ran into trouble with foreign punks - who perceived me as "right-wing" - just by my looks. Ironically, the Nazis shitheads at my town perceived me as "leftist-punk" also because of my clothes.. [!].
This taught me a great lesson early on how perceptive humans/situations can be...
Needless to say, at every weekend there were fistfights between Punks vs Nazis, and Punks vs Punks (when they were drink) and the "folkish Nazis guys" also were into drugs and basically all that shit which they told they were actually against... in the end, it's just arbitrary nonsense, all of it.

Thus, I don't side with anyone anymore and simple try to stay honest to myself, and those which I perceive to have some sort of reason, humanity, intelligence & honesty preserved in their minds.
This "sideing" is what creates conflicts in the first place. The US political show illustrates this quite openly to the world - in stark contrast, the Switzerland form of 2-2-2-1 democracy enforces the opposition to take part in the ruling legislation - which is a problem they have to overcome by compromising. Thus, there isn't that much "blocking". They also frequently ask the people directly ("Volksabstimmung") when it comes to delicate questions....
 
PadawanWarrior

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Kassiopeija said:
Because he is an ideal. It's like a picture in your mind - it can be deceived or distorted by negative emotions rather quickly. Bad experience with other humans most likely is going to cause this. It's sort of very hard, and maybe not even natural, to completely strive for this, but then we simply mustn't allow ourselves to become the very evil that we dread.


I've been a "MetalPunk" 30 years ago. Actually more a Heavy Metal guy, but the other Metalheads from town where still too young and had to be at home before midnight. So I always ventured out together with the Punks - because they didn't care much about what their parents told them LOL. Over time I also liked some of their music, esp. the CrustPunk or extreme Anarcho-Punk from the DDR ("Schleim-Keim" <-- check these out, top notch).

Funny thing is, because of Metal outfit I occasionally ran into trouble with foreign punks - who perceived me as "right-wing" - just by my looks. Ironically, the Nazis shitheads at my town perceived me as "leftist-punk" also because of my clothes.. [!].
This taught me a great lesson early on how perceptive humans/situations can be...
Needless to say, at every weekend there were fistfights between Punks vs Nazis, and Punks vs Punks (when they were drink) and the "folkish Nazis guys" also were into drugs and basically all that shit which they told they were actually against... in the end, it's just arbitrary nonsense, all of it.

Thus, I don't side with anyone anymore and simple try to stay honest to myself, and those which I perceive to have some sort of reason, humanity, intelligence & honesty preserved in their minds.
This "sideing" is what creates conflicts in the first place. The US political show illustrates this quite openly to the world - in stark contrast, the Switzerland form of 2-2-2-1 democracy enforces the opposition to take part in the ruling legislation - which is a problem they have to overcome by compromising. Thus, there isn't that much "blocking". They also frequently ask the people directly ("Volksabstimmung") when it comes to delicate questions....
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Nice. I'm into hard rock and metal too. And ya at the punk shows the skinheads and punks didn't like each other. When the skins would get in the mosh pit, us punks would push them from all sides. They were always outnumbered.
 
Kassiopeija

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PadawanWarrior said:
Nice. I'm into hard rock and metal too. And ya at the punk shows the skinheads and punks didn't like each other. When the skins would get in the mosh pit, us punks would push them from all sides. They were always outnumbered.
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here in Germany there are 3 great musical subcultural scenes where basically the whole young guitar-associate musicfans gather - Punk, Metal & Gothic.
Punk incorporates punks, non-political skins "ois", some from the black block violent antifa and "sharp" skins, and also some stuff thats more US related like grunge skater guys or crust punks.
Within the metal scene you also got bikers, and hard rockers
And within the gothic theres also industrial, neue deutsche welle, EBM, some black metal.
Sometimes the scenes overlap.
There's also some nazis there, esp. in the black metal/goth scene (NSBM) but they are hated by most.
Real fascist guys usually stay on their own, they are not allowed to gather or organise concerts here. Actually our secret service should prevent their gathering, and they have alot of spies in them integrated. With literal no effect... turns out our secret aervice + our police do actually harbour quite some brown guys (the ones which either play a double-game or just appear to be normal <-- the disguised one are the worst)

Ah yeah, and there's the hooligan/ basher scene - also some nazis there, you see therm basically everywhere where there is violence, too... :/
 
Lucky Luke

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Kassiopeija said:
here in Germany there are 3 great musical subcultural scenes where basically the whole young guitar-associate musicfans gather - Punk, Metal & Gothic.
Punk incorporates punks, non-political skins "ois", some from the black block violent antifa and "sharp" skins, and also some stuff thats more US related like grunge skater guys or crust punks.
Within the metal scene you also got bikers, and hard rockers
And within the gothic theres also industrial, neue deutsche welle, EBM, some black metal.
Sometimes the scenes overlap.
There's also some nazis there, esp. in the black metal/goth scene (NSBM) but they are hated by most.
Real fascist guys usually stay on their own, they are not allowed to gather or organise concerts here. Actually our secret service should prevent their gathering, and they have alot of spies in them integrated. With literal no effect... turns out our secret aervice + our police do actually harbour quite some brown guys (the ones which either play a double-game or just appear to be normal <-- the disguised one are the worst)

Ah yeah, and there's the hooligan/ basher scene - also some nazis there, you see therm basically everywhere where there is violence, too... :/
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I had a few drinks in a bar in Austria with a punk Nazi. He seemed very ignorant and idealistic on how the world worked. Friendly enough with me and he invited me to a party that night, I was trepidatious about going and the two girls i was was traveling with (one Canadian and one American) convinced me not to go.
Was interesting hearing his views albeit a bit scary.
 
Kassiopeija

Kassiopeija

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Lucky Luke said:
I had a few drinks in a bar in Austria with a punk Nazi. He seemed very ignorant and idealistic on how the world worked. Friendly enough with me and he invited me to a party that night, I was trepidatious about going and the two girls i was was traveling with (one Canadian and one American) convinced me not to go.
Was interesting hearing his views albeit a bit scary.
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so what did he state, as an example... the people from Austria generally tend to be more "conservative" than us Germans because we are getting more lectured about learning from the past, due to the second world war. actually, it's not that bad as it sounds... for example, a guy like Biden would also be viewed as "mildly right conservative" in our political landscape... someone like Cory Booker perhaps the middle ... take it with a grain of salt... don't hold any real indepth knowledge on those too.... but someone like Kavanaugh would be unthinkably here, esp. as Supreme Judge WTF
 
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