Why do you think that is?See the website? everything is out of stock.
If you're in a hurry I believe there are other products recommended here. I think I've seen Tasty recommended. I haven't been following it much.
Why do you think that is?See the website? everything is out of stock.
Maybe yours wasn't a straight question(?). If you're not in a hurry, A51 looks like a better deal. There are other brands I've seen recommended. You might have given the impression of being disingenuous and won't get replies now. (That's my impression.).I asked what people should buy and yet no one can really give a straight answer.
The elitism in this thread is ridiculous.
It seems to me like projection. The people who bought Mars and recommend it can't accept that T5HO or CMH are better (cost-effective) options, and need everyone else to stop saying that. They need their choice to be portrayed in a different reality, blaming everyone else for not doing that. To me, that seems more elitist than simply pointing out that the price of epi-whatever lights aren't cost effective.There's a perception here that the anti Mars bias here is elitism.
There's a perception here that the anti Mars bias here is elitism. It's actually math plus...
The best LES devices are getting up to 140 lumens per watt, but the Mars are giving you only 4300 lumens for 140 Watts of power... that's about 30 lumens per Watt, about one fourth the light for the same wattage.
That's not even counting the claims of terrible customer service and high failure rates.
If you want led and want to do it on the cheap, get Cree bulbs at Home Depot.
Just to avoid the kind of confusion which has flourished lately, more power or more light?but some people want to grow more that a 6 to 12 inch layer of bud, you need more power over less space to do that
I would say, for americans you can buy GoGreen or PacificLightingConcept, JohnsonLED, TastyLED, A51(all active cooling). For european you can buy BensHorticultureLighting (passiv cooling) or SpectraLabDesign (active cooling)So what brand should we be buying if DIY isn't an option?
Cause from the sound of it, every LED out there is a pile of junk.
This is a serious question. Plug n grow all in one units ready out of the box. No DIY bullshit. What's the best brand for the cost?
A CXB light will blast out both light together! Nice try to promote PlatinumLEDside by side blows mars out of the water
A warranty is only good if the company that offers it is still around when you run into problems.yeah with double the price and only a 3 year warranty, I'll buy 2 P600s and have two five years to fall back on. when you need to replace your CXB I'll be still growing at the same intensity.
You'll be supporting a businessman (Platinum) who had to stoop to ripping off the name of a reputable LED business (Advanced) to sell his epi-whatever lights because they wouldn't stand on the merits you claim they do.yeah with double the price and only a 3 year warranty, I'll buy 2 P600s and have two five years to fall back on. when you need to replace your CXB I'll be still growing at the same intensity.
Yeah, your cheap quality lamp needs 5 year warranty due to lack of quality. So be happy to send back your lamp to china to get replace. Please calculate cost for sending back to china. You will grow all time with same intensity but half yield like us. Or should I say we will grow same amount of yield in 5 years what you will do in 10 yearsyeah with double the price and only a 3 year warranty, I'll buy 2 P600s and have two five years to fall back on. when you need to replace your CXB I'll be still growing at the same intensity.
I'm sure the sketchy (name-ripoff) Platinum appreciates you plugging them.I feel good about not dropping 1500 dollars for the 1200W equivalent advanced wants to charge.