Looking for better potency

Rurumo

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The way I've always found my potent strains is to grow out a lot of different seeds and just clone everything and save the best as mother plants. Then as you hit your ceiling for # of mommies you want to keep, replace them as you find even better stuff. Also, of course, keep working on every aspect of your grow, esp SLOW curing. Since all of the best and most potent buds I've ever had were outdoor grown, I think UV also plays a roll, which is why I'm going to start experimenting with UV bulbs in my current grow.
 

Dr. Who

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Then get g13 s1 no point in muddy up the waters imo if your looking for something specific.
I have a few cheese fem crosses from csi. I've found crosses to have the hybrid vigor I like in a plant rather than s1. Not that s1 are bad. Selfed crosses seem to do better.
Here some pictures under the micro scope. They look pretty ready to me but I wouldn't know from experience only what I've read.
Each pic is a different plant
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1 and 3 are done.
 

Thundercat

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As I've stated though I'm not speaking about max potency or the best of the best but get you high better than mids per say.
Will all plants get you pretty stoned obviously with everything in life there will be winners and losers.
I didn’t say anything about max potency, and my statement was clear otherwise to answer your question.

Unhealthy plants will also produce lower quality buds.
 

Coal Train

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I didn’t say anything about max potency, and my statement was clear otherwise to answer your question.

Unhealthy plants will also produce lower quality buds.
You quoted my question and didn't answer what I specificly asked so I nicely tried explaining my question again. If your here to converse with me , and are trying to lend a helping hand I personally would gain allot more if you helped me out with the questions I have .
Thank you , everything must be pheno hunted I knew that . What I don't know is how close will the potency of each seed be to each other. Drastically different or moderately close and how potent will every seed be registered mids fire a dud .
 

Coal Train

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The way I've always found my potent strains is to grow out a lot of different seeds and just clone everything and save the best as mother plants. Then as you hit your ceiling for # of mommies you want to keep, replace them as you find even better stuff. Also, of course, keep working on every aspect of your grow, esp SLOW curing. Since all of the best and most potent buds I've ever had were outdoor grown, I think UV also plays a roll, which is why I'm going to start experimenting with UV bulbs in my current grow.
What about the ones in between the keepers are they so bad they barely get you high?
 

Jimbo the Gael

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You quoted my question and didn't answer what I specificly asked so I nicely tried explaining my question again. If your here to converse with me , and are trying to lend a helping hand I personally would gain allot more if you helped me out with the questions I have .
Thank you , everything must be pheno hunted I knew that . What I don't know is how close will the potency of each seed be to each other. Drastically different or moderately close and how potent will every seed be registered mids fire a dud .
They should be fairly close if grown under the same conditions by the same grower, but as they are living things there is no definite answer. I don't think you'll get massive variation, unless the genetics are relatively unstable, but it is possible.
 

Thundercat

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You quoted my question and didn't answer what I specificly asked so I nicely tried explaining my question again. If your here to converse with me , and are trying to lend a helping hand I personally would gain allot more if you helped me out with the questions I have .
Thank you , everything must be pheno hunted I knew that . What I don't know is how close will the potency of each seed be to each other. Drastically different or moderately close and how potent will every seed be registered mids fire a dud .
I’ve never seen a seed be “registered” as mids. If it came from a bag of mids weed then sometimes you can even grow it out better then the bag it came from, because you did a better job manifesting the genetics full potential. Or you can poorly grow the best genetics possible in bad conditions and have it turn out below it’s genetics potential, and be weak.

As far as genetics from breeders, it really depends there is no set answer. I’ve popped packs of seeds and only gotten 2 phenotypes that were both good plants and it made it hard decide which to keep. I’ve also grown out packs of seeds that had 6+ phenotypes from 10 seeds and they were not all good plants. I’ve totally grown plants that looked and smelled great but the high was weak, they did not become keepers.

No not every seed will produce a plant “more potent then mids”, that is part of why mids exist. Genetics that have been breed completely for yield can also be lower in potency.
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Frankly Dankly

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Want to talk about boring. You just named 3 of the most widely sold weeds. Those are so vanilla its insane now.

Not to say they aren't good but they fit into the im bored category just as much as ww
Preach that shit. It’s hilarious that people say you have to have cookies or cake strains for potency when they get their bombness from a landrace strain, lol. Straight Durban is still amazing and plenty potent even for seasoned pros.
 

Coal Train

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I’ve never seen a seed be “registered” as mids. If it came from a bag of mids weed then sometimes you can even grow it out better then the bag it came from, because you did a better job manifesting the genetics full potential. Or you can poorly grow the best genetics possible in bad conditions and have it turn out below it’s genetics potential, and be weak.

As far as genetics from breeders, it really depends there is no set answer. I’ve popped packs of seeds and only gotten 2 phenotypes that were both good plants and it made it hard decide which to keep. I’ve also grown out packs of seeds that had 6+ phenotypes from 10 seeds and they were not all good plants. I’ve totally grown plants that looked and smelled great but the high was weak, they did not become keepers.

No not every seed will produce a plant “more potent then mids”, that is part of why mids exist. Genetics that have been breed completely for yield can also be lower in potency.
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First let me say thank you for your help
My wording may not be proper . Everything I grow is new . I purchased all my stock sealed direct from the breeders or a well known bank.
So what I'm taking from this and correct me if I'm wrong. EVERYTHING I've read incluginh these responses . Genetics is a cap shoot nothings set in stone. All the seeds should be fairly close in potency but you will have some much better and some much worse.
I think I understand now.
 

Thundercat

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First let me say thank you for your help
My wording may not be proper . Everything I grow is new . I purchased all my stock sealed direct from the breeders or a well known bank.
So what I'm taking from this and correct me if I'm wrong. EVERYTHING I've read incluginh these responses . Genetics is a cap shoot nothings set in stone. All the seeds should be fairly close in potency but you will have some much better and some much worse.
I think I understand now.
Genetics isn’t a TOTAL crap shoot but basically.

Well bred genetics that have been properly selected through multiple generations to isolate specific traits will have less variations.

Other genetics that aren’t worked with for multiple generations. And/or don’t have good selections made will have more variations :).

How those genetics express themselves in your grow environment is the phenotype. Which makes environment another major factor in your final quality.
 
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