Looking for better potency

Doug Dawson said:

White Widow is a staple strain that has been around for a long time and is a great plant if grown right?

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Blah, boring to be sure! I haven't seen WW on any shelf in some years!

Keeping up with todays high end strains is where your top shelf comes from,,,period!

Apple Fritter
various RUNTZ or Cake workings
Rozay
even GG#4 from early versions...

The list goes on, and on.

Get the newer strains or be lost in antiquity and, yawn, forgotten......

What does your drying setup look like?

Early late harvest is one possibility but the reality is most folks don't dry right.

All that time and work to dry wrong and destroy the weeds taste and potency.

If your buds arent top shelf it probably has to do with chop time and dry environment

Part 2

Learn that you add at least 2 weeks to any breeders timeline!

This done by any days or weeks thing? Not viable for the best potentials from the strain.

Learn just what done is? Is time consuming and rewarding.

Once you get into the newer uber potent strains. Be aware that many don't amber much and some? Not at all.

Look for stacked calyx's and receded pistil's.
If you have trouble with the plant yellowing out before the end? Your over feeding P and most likely K too.

The real changes between veg and Bloom are less then many nutrient companies chart for. Much less mix their products for.
Not to mention that "boosters" are basically "sales gimmick's" to part you from your money at high rates of cost per use...

Dr. Who said:

Blah, boring to be sure! I haven't seen WW on any shelf in some years!

Keeping up with todays high end strains is where your top shelf comes from,,,period!

Apple Fritter
various RUNTZ or Cake workings
Rozay
even GG#4 from early versions...

The list goes on, and on.

Get the newer strains or be lost in antiquity and, yawn, forgotten......

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Want to talk about boring. You just named 3 of the most widely sold weeds. Those are so vanilla its insane now.

Not to say they aren't good but they fit into the im bored category just as much as ww

Part 3

Kinda got beat to the post on this subject but, lets try and clear some of this up.

Dry for about 2 weeks at 50% RH in the drying space. They are dry when you bend the stems and they "crack" and not just "bend over".

NOW jar it and burp those for a few days, OR simply throw Boveda packs in each jar and let them set and CURE for at least 4 weeks, 6 is better and 8 is better yet!

My favorite time to get the best all around flavor is at the 8 month cure.

1 month is ok, 3 months is getting there, 5 months almost. The 8th is finely cured cannabis.

After a 12 months. Then things begin to get old.

Wizzlebiz said:

Want to talk about boring. You just named 3 of the most widely sold weeds. Those are so vanilla its insane now.

Not to say they aren't good but they fit into the im bored category just as much as ww

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Depends on where your from sonny.... This stuff has hardly cracked the disp. market here. Not to mention that the factory farmed shit is lacking a proper finish and cure also!

So if it's so "yesterday" to you... Just what are you running?

BTW; Everything I'm running are from certified clones - NO 2nd or 3rd rate beans from "crossed the same strains as the breeder" copy cat shit here!
Apple Fritter hitting in the low 30's
Same for a few of the others.
Some of the newer cake strains are better then the original, same for Runtz....
As far as the GG#4? I have a very very early version. It's STILL one of the most requested strains in my collection.

Sleez said:

Well your first problem is your growing purple urkle and white widow.

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Sad truth in that

Dr. Who said:

Blah, boring to be sure! I haven't seen WW on any shelf in some years!

Keeping up with todays high end strains is where your top shelf comes from,,,period!

Apple Fritter
various RUNTZ or Cake workings
Rozay
even GG#4 from early versions...

The list goes on, and on.

Get the newer strains or be lost in antiquity and, yawn, forgotten......

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ROLF, so you hate old school and landrace strains and only feel new breeds are any good? Interesting perspective that I don't agree with but hey, to each their own. I grow strains because I like them, things like terpene profiles are important to me. Just looking for higher THC strains is just not what I care about. Currently one of the strains I am growing is Maui Waui, they will make some great rosin. Perhaps boring to you but that's ok, after being on this planet almost half a century I learned that people's opinions usually mean very little to me. As long as you are happy that's all that matters and I am happy with my selections.

jimihendrix1 said:

WW used to be a killer strain, but is nothing like it used to be, like many strains. Sensi NL5/Haze is Nothing like it used to be. Sensi NL5 is no longer advertised at NL5, just NL. Sensi Mr Nice is junk, Sk1. Afghani #1. AK47, White Russian. They lost many of the genetics over time to fires, raids, and diseases.
Thats one reason I tell people to get AKBeanBrains Gear, Relic, Connoisseur, Dynasty, Nature Farm, Swami, bluegrassskunklord, Lucky Dog and some others as they have many of these old school genetics, and more on the way. Connoissuer IMHO is probably the best place to get Haze hybrids, and Super Silver Haze hybrids. SSH brings huge structure, and fast growth to anything its bred to. Connoisseur, and AKBB also share genetics

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Yeah, I remeber that AK smell and probably never forget. They are all gone.

Dr. Who said:

Depends on where your from sonny.... This stuff has hardly cracked the disp. market here. Not to mention that the factory farmed shit is lacking a proper finish and cure also!

So if it's so "yesterday" to you... Just what are you running?

BTW; Everything I'm running are from certified clones - NO 2nd or 3rd rate beans from "crossed the same strains as the breeder" copy cat shit here!
Apple Fritter hitting in the low 30's
Same for a few of the others.
Some of the newer cake strains are better then the original, same for Runtz....
As far as the GG#4? I have a very very early version. It's STILL one of the most requested strains in my collection.

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I'm running starduster 10 by dynasty seeds. Im also running a mimosa.

@mysunnyboy the only sonny I'm aware of btw. If your going to try to be funny and treat me like a kid be more clever would ya?

I happen to agree it depends on where you got it. But let's be fair here. You legitimately named a bunch of other popular strains right after crapping on one for being popular.

Dynasty has great genetics. Same guy also runs Connoisseur Genetics, and Relic Seeds. Great place for Haze hybrids.

jimihendrix1 said:

Dynasty has great genetics. Same guy also runs Connoisseur Genetics, and Relic Seeds. Great place for Haze hybrids.

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Yep. I have some lucy fruit from relic as well as the starduster from dynasty.

Ive got a few orders of the Connoisseur Swiss Thai Nevils OG, Nevils OG I think he calls it, and Psychosis x Orgnkid ChemBx3 OG Dominant Male. The Nevils OG has the same father. Connoisseur has a few NL5/Haze elite clone hybrids, as does Relic. Psychosis is an old 80s NL5/Hz cut.
I read on Instagram he said the Nevils OG was some of, if not the best stuff hes ever seen, and is why I got it. He grew out one random pack, and found better than expected. The Nevils unreleased work, is alleged to be Nevils best. Organkid also knows his stuff.
We also have a Super Silver Cough from Dynasty. People call it speed ball.

I gave a buddy a pack of 15 Consumption F2 from Connoisseur, a pack of the TK/NL5/Haze from AKBeanBrains, who also works with Connoisseur ect, and a pack of Connoisseur Super Silver Sour Diesel Haze to start. He'll stagger them a week apart. 15 of the Consumption are up, and the TK/NL5/Hz are on the way. Next week he'll start the SSSDH.

Doug Dawson said:

ROLF, so you hate old school and landrace strains and only feel new breeds are any good? Interesting perspective that I don't agree with but hey, to each their own. I grow strains because I like them, things like terpene profiles are important to me. Just looking for higher THC strains is just not what I care about. Currently one of the strains I am growing is Maui Waui, they will make some great rosin. Perhaps boring to you but that's ok, after being on this planet almost half a century I learned that people's opinions usually mean very little to me. As long as you are happy that's all that matters and I am happy with my selections.

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Sigh. Why do people take an opinion as something against them?

Fine! Enjoy what you like.
I prefer to try newer things and still run some of the old too.

WW is beyond BORING. I never liked it, and didn't understand the following it got.
Screw High Times and their bogus cup bullshit too.....

As far as running for only potency. You simply assumed that. Your wrong there too..

Oh, as long as we're throwing out age and such.

I'll be 63 in less then 3 months.
Been growing cannabis since I was 15, when I put my first seed to soil.
Was taught by and old school hippie in a commune in Ukiah CA...

If my opinion meant little to you. Then why did you bother to answer? More BS.

Dr. Who said:

Sigh. Why do people take an opinion as something against them?

Fine! Enjoy what you like.
I prefer to try newer things and still run some of the old too.

WW is beyond BORING. I never liked it, and didn't understand the following it got.
Screw High Times and their bogus cup bullshit too.....

As far as running for only potency. You simply assumed that. Your wrong there too..

Oh, as long as we're throwing out age and such.

I'll be 63 in less then 3 months.
Been growing cannabis since I was 15, when I put my first seed to soil.
Was taught by and old school hippie in a commune in Ukiah CA...

If my opinion meant little to you. Then why did you bother to answer? More BS.

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Learning from "old school hippies" isn't a good answer in a time where we know 1000xs more than we did 50 years ago.

Age doesn't mean a thing.

Just dont fall into that "I've been growing for 50 years how dare you try to tell me stuff" mentality.

I'm 43 and learning new shit every year. No one is exempt from time and the knowledge that changes due to it.

Also I love the taste of WW. Nothing more nothing less. Just like the taste.

Wizzlebiz said:

I'm running starduster 10 by dynasty seeds. Im also running a mimosa.

@mysunnyboy the only sonny I'm aware of btw. If your going to try to be funny and treat me like a kid be more clever would ya?

I happen to agree it depends on where you got it. But let's be fair here. You legitimately named a bunch of other popular strains right after crapping on one for being popular.

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Your right. Let's be fair. I crapped on 1 from the past that I never liked. Nor did I understand the fascination with it...DOESN'T mean I never ran it.

Yes I mentioned popular strains right now. I'm running them. Between trading with other breeders, and clone swapping. I haven't bought beans in 4 years. I find no need to....
I have enough issue with bean running when hunting pheno's from my and other "friend's work".

I wish a dear friend of mine was still alive. He passed suddenly, right after breeding one of the best "Strawberry" line's I (and others in his circle) have ever tasted!
Cherry Vortex
It's THE most requested thing I run. It retains the name he gave it. Out of respect.

Now Cherry lines to me were pretty much "Boring" too. Till he hit it out of the park with it. I know several of us have kept it going. I think it's started to come out to more from one of us too.

If you see something called that. It smells like Cherry Lifesaver's, and is the trippyest thing you've ever pull 3 bongs of.... You found it! LONG lasting too.

Wizzlebiz said:

Learning from "old school hippies" isn't a good answer in a time where we know 1000xs more than we did 50 years ago.

Age doesn't mean a thing.

Just dont fall into that "I've been growing for 50 years how dare you try to tell me stuff" mentality.

I'm 43 and learning new shit every year. No one is exempt from time and the knowledge that changes due to it.

Also I love the taste of WW. Nothing more nothing less. Just like the taste.

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Sigh. Step on your foot to?
I agree on age.
Experience AND education on the other hand?

On the WW thing. You have your opinion and I shared mine first. It bothered you, so you countered it.

That's fine with me.

Dr. Who said:

Sigh. Why do people take an opinion as something against them?

Fine! Enjoy what you like.
I prefer to try newer things and still run some of the old too.

WW is beyond BORING. I never liked it, and didn't understand the following it got.
Screw High Times and their bogus cup bullshit too.....

As far as running for only potency. You simply assumed that. Your wrong there too..

Oh, as long as we're throwing out age and such.

I'll be 63 in less then 3 months.
Been growing cannabis since I was 15, when I put my first seed to soil.
Was taught by and old school hippie in a commune in Ukiah CA...

If my opinion meant little to you. Then why did you bother to answer? More BS.

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I answer because we are on a discussion board and your response of "Get the newer strains or be lost in antiquity and, yawn, forgotten...... " came off as a bit condescending and ignorant. Pretty simple reasoning really. Perhaps it the way you responded that made you sound as you did. Anyway, to avoid more BS I will leave you to your opinions as you are entitled to them. You take care now and happy growing.

@Doug Dawson

Us old farts can be opinionated.. have patience with us.
I have a cpl strains older then WW in my rotations..... They have pretty much been buried under the strain compost pile of time.
Yet their legacies live on.

Peace out Doug..